Gary Sanchez signs with Baltimore

[Jopal78]

1 year 8.5 million.

 

Now there is the real reason to be upset with celery in major-league baseball today. 
 

Sanchez made 7 million with Milwaukee, was slight above replacement level and gets a raise to 8.5 million. 
 

When replacement level veteran free agents bench player are getting 8.5 million a year, the margin of error for teams like the Brewers developing their own talent becomes almost non-existent.

[Brock Beauchamp]

5 minutes ago, Jopal78 said:

1 year 8.5 million.

 

Now there is the real reason to be upset with celery in major-league baseball today. 
 

Sanchez made 7 million with Milwaukee, was slight above replacement level and gets a raise to 8.5 million. 
 

When replacement level veteran free agents bench player are getting 8.5 million a year, the margin of error for teams like the Brewers developing their own talent becomes almost non-existent.

I think this is a little simplified. First, Sanchez is somewhat unique because he can don the tools of ignorance but also has a decent bat, especially against LHP, but you don't want him starting anywhere every day.

Second, while I often use FanGraphs' WAR to do quick-and-dirty evaluation, teams do not. They have their own internal evaluation systems that may tell them very different things about Sanchez and how to maximize his performance.

If the Orioles think they have a way to get the equivalent of 1.5 wins out of Sanchez, that's worth more than $8.5m.

[Jopal78]

4 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

I think this is a little simplified. First, Sanchez is somewhat unique because he can don the tools of ignorance but also has a decent bat, especially against LHP, but you don't want him starting anywhere every day.

Second, while I often use FanGraphs' WAR to do quick-and-dirty evaluation, teams do not. They have their own internal evaluation systems that may tell them very different things about Sanchez and how to maximize his performance.

If the Orioles think they have a way to get the equivalent of 1.5 wins out of Sanchez, that's worth more than $8.5m.

You could be right on the WAR, I doubt it because unless Sanchez is putting up a .500 slugging percentage like his extended hot streak in San Diego in ‘23, he’s been a pretty poor hitter for years. 

 

But my point is; Gary Sanchez is not even a second tier free agent and he’s making 8.5 million dollars. To the Brewers it really never mattered what the ceiling is for free agents because they don’t shop there; but when Sanchez is helping push up the floor on what it costs to sign veteran free agents, it’s not a good sign for the smaller market clubs .

[Brock Beauchamp]

3 minutes ago, Jopal78 said:

But my point is; Gary Sanchez is not even a second tier free agent and he’s making 8.5 million dollars. To the Brewers it really never mattered what the ceiling is for free agents because they don’t shop there; but when Sanchez is helping push up the floor on what it costs to sign veteran free agents, it’s not a good sign for the smaller market clubs .

That's fair. A ton of teams are facing this issue in the wake of the TV collapse. It's going to create further stratification within the sport where teams like the Dodgers can drop $20m on a player without hesitation (and not really care if they have to release him later) while the Brewers, Twins, Diamondbacks, hell even the Rangers, are tightening their belts.

[Thurston Fluff]

2 hours ago, Jopal78 said:

1 year 8.5 million.

 

Now there is the real reason to be upset with celery in major-league baseball today. 
 

Sanchez made 7 million with Milwaukee, was slight above replacement level and gets a raise to 8.5 million. 
 

When replacement level veteran free agents bench player are getting 8.5 million a year, the margin of error for teams like the Brewers developing their own talent becomes almost non-existent.

Personally I have more problems with carrots in the league. Teams stockpile carrots and demand like 20 peas to get a single one of their carrots. By the time you get a good one you don't have any peas left to have a decent mix. But but your point of veggies in the league is on point. It's got to the point where some teams just focus on fruits and skip veggie altogether. Players are going to start complaining about the food spread and we'll have even less ways to entice free agents to come here.

[Scooterfletcher]

3 hours ago, Jopal78 said:

You could be right on the WAR, I doubt it because unless Sanchez is putting up a .500 slugging percentage like his extended hot streak in San Diego in ‘23, he’s been a pretty poor hitter for years. 

 

But my point is; Gary Sanchez is not even a second tier free agent and he’s making 8.5 million dollars. To the Brewers it really never mattered what the ceiling is for free agents because they don’t shop there; but when Sanchez is helping push up the floor on what it costs to sign veteran free agents, it’s not a good sign for the smaller market clubs .

Eh, the brewers kind of offered Sanchez this type contract last year (then adjusted it after determining he was injured).  We also gave some guy named Jacob Junis seven million per year who was just some random middle reliever.

 

i don’t see the sky falling with Sanchez getting 8.5 million.

[treego14]

Brewers need to take a tin cup to the MLB offices and wait for a handout at the very least.  MLB is gross in its equity to small market teams.

[endaround]

15 minutes ago, treego14 said:

Brewers need to take a tin cup to the MLB offices and wait for a handout at the very least.  MLB is gross in its equity to small market teams.

The Brewers get a disproportionate share of MLB shared revenue.  No one knows exactly how much but estimates are between $100-120 million.

[wiguy94]

2 hours ago, endaround said:

The Brewers get a disproportionate share of MLB shared revenue.  No one knows exactly how much but estimates are between $100-120 million.

Every team gets the same share of MLB shared revenue. Brewers put in less than they receive because we are a small market team, but the amount of money we have to work with is still well the vast majority of the league.

[MNBrew]

For too many stretches last year, Gary Sanchez just wasn't good.  I never liked it when we signed him, and I'm glad someone else signed him so we can't be tempted to get him back.

Sure, someone's (foolishly) paying him $8.5M, but he's hardly an $8.5M (or $7M) player.  Yuck.

[Fear The Chorizo]

14 hours ago, endaround said:

The Brewers get a disproportionate share of MLB shared revenue.  No one knows exactly how much but estimates are between $100-120 million.

The problem is the bucket of shared revenue is too damn small for small market teams for it to matter - it makes zero sense for small to mid market teams to offer middling free agents upwards of $10M per season when they can get the same onfield production at pre-arbitration prices...and more MLB teams are doing this more consistently because fewer of them can even go after the top tier free agents.  

Knowing the Brewers getting that shared revenue is what helps keep the team in Milwaukee and maybe marginally profitable (debatable) doesn't mean they get to start with a $110M check from MLB they can burn entirely on player payroll should be an indication the league's financial model is broken.