2024-25 NFL Playoffs Thread

[HarryDoyle]

1 minute ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

If analytics are saying go for 2 and pass up the chance go up 9 with a PAT, analytics are broken. 

 

From the one yard line I don't blame them going for it. When's the last time you saw the Eagles fail at the tush push?

[yourout]

Just now, OldSchoolSnapper said:

That's a killer. Philly is moving on. 

That might be one more mistake than they can afford to make.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

That was not even a particularly big hit or helmet to ball. That thing just popped right out.  

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Preposterous call and I don't care what the broadcast says. How is he supposed to stop?

[HarveysWBs]

I don’t believe in officiating conspiracies in the NFL. You could not keep that a secret in this day and age, and it would be insanity for one of the most successful sports leagues in world history to tolerate those kinds of shenanigans.

That being said, two teams in your playoffs getting the benefit of seemingly every big call/no-call situation is a really bad look. And those teams ending up in the Super Bowl is just feeding the widespread speculation.

You can’t get it 100% right, and camera quality will only get better and make it more of a no-win for the refs. But the NFL needs to be better than this, especially in the postseason.

[yourout]

That's probably going to be the backbreaker.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

I'd prefer to see the Bills win the AFC, but I think KC gives the best chance of Philadelphia losing. 

[adambr2]

10 minutes ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

If analytics are saying go for 2 and pass up the chance go up 9 with a PAT, analytics are broken. 

 

If the 2nd quarter is too early to be worried about whether you’re tied or losing by 1, it’s definitely too early to worry about whether you’re up by 8 or 9. 

I think the 4th quarter is about when you start counting points, depending on the pace of the game. I really have no problem with any conversion decision before then as they are close to the same expected points. The default is obviously still the 1, but I would have no problem with a team that was particularly strong in 3rd/4th and short situations (not the Packers), going for 2 by default.

[HarveysWBs]

Also pretty wild that, with fumbles being largely luck-dependent on the recovery end, Philly has been so insanely hot recovering those in this postseason. And, yeah, Nixon got his fumble back, but even taking that out, to get two absolute back-breakers in a single half like this is pretty nuts.

[yourout]

That should have been a 15 yarder for sticking his fingers in his eye sockets

[adambr2]

I just want one Super Bowl where I can actively root for one of the teams to win the game. Is that so much to ask?

[OldSchoolSnapper]

9 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

If the 2nd quarter is too early to be worried about whether you’re tied or losing by 1, it’s definitely too early to worry about whether you’re up by 8 or 9. 

I think the 4th quarter is about when you start counting points, depending on the pace of the game. I really have no problem with any conversion decision before then as they are close to the same expected points. The default is obviously still the 1, but I would have no problem with a team that was particularly strong in 3rd/4th and short situations (not the Packers), going for 2 by default.

Just don't agree. 

Needing an entire extra possession is a huge deal. More importantly though, the difference between 9 and 10 just isn't significant enough to put that extra possession on the line. Going up 8 is a significant advantage. All the pressure is on the opponent - they have to score AND score a 2 pt. 

Kick the PAT. Ensure they need the ball an extra time. It's just dumb over aggression. I wouldn't have taken Washington's attempt either, but the Philly one is just needless. The reward just isn't valuable. 

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Buffalo is easy to root for but I'm pretty convinced they're going to lose. 

[yourout]

26 minutes ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

Buffalo is easy to root for but I'm pretty convinced they're going to lose. 

I'm fairly confident so are the zebras

[adambr2]

26 minutes ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

Just don't agree. 

Needing an entire extra possession is a huge deal. More importantly though, the difference between 9 and 10 just isn't significant enough to put that extra possession on the line. Going up 8 is a significant advantage. All the pressure is on the opponent - they have to score AND score a 2 pt. 

Kick the PAT. Ensure they need the ball an extra time. It's just dumb over aggression. I wouldn't have taken Washington's attempt either, but the Philly one is just needless. The reward just isn't valuable. 

They also had the ball at the 1 yard line with a play that is successful a vast majority of the time. I just don’t think you’re looking at all the context here either.

Guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree. I don’t think you can argue that the 2nd quarter is too early to chance points though and then say a 9 point lead in the 2nd quarter is a big deal.

I don’t think any of this is wildly consequential either way, honestly.

[HarryDoyle]

Washington was a nice story this year but they're about to turn into a pumpkin. I expected Daniels to be the best QB coming out of the draft and lead them to a division title, which almost happened, but I certainly didn't see them winning a playoff game this year, much less two. They'll certainly be a team to contend with for quite a while and I'm glad we get both these teams at home next season.

[HarryDoyle]

2 minutes ago, yourout said:

I'm fairly confident so are the zebras

If anything came out of all the controversy over the officiating last week, it's that the refs in that game will certainly be under a microscope.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

9 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

They also had the ball at the 1 yard line with a play that is successful a vast majority of the time. I just don’t think you’re looking at all the context here either.

Guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree. I don’t think you can argue that the 2nd quarter is too early to chance points though and then say a 9 point lead in the 2nd quarter is a big deal.

I don’t think any of this is wildly consequential either way, honestly.

The difference is that in Washington's case you are still losing if you do kick the PAT. It is much easier to justify what they did than what Philly did. You're ahead by 8 already. You're fine. Just take the 2 possession lead and kick the PAT. 

But I still wouldn't have attempted either PAT personally, and I also don't agree, they're not equivalent situations. It's 14-12 in the second quarter, you're losing, I don't think you need to be worried yet about playing catch-up. It's not the same circumstance as padding a lead you already have. You're playing from a clear advantage in the second situation and it makes complete sense to pad the lead. 

I suppose just a matter of preference. 

 

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Washington deserves to lose which is a shame. Not a single one of those fumbles was an impressive defensive play. They were a good enough team to beat Philly. 

[HarveysWBs]

So, for those of us scoring at home, the Eagles are allowed to wrestle the ball away in a scrum in the Wildcard round, but Washington cannot do likewise in the NFC Championship game. Everybody clear on the rules? No? Good.

[HarryDoyle]

Burks certainly making a name for himself this postseason, or has he always been this good since leaving Green Bay because if so, that doesn't look good on us.

[HarryDoyle]

Seriously, what does Luvu have to lose?

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Honestly, I've never seen anything like this. I'm not a conspiracy theorist in the slightest, this game is already decided. But the Eagles get literally EVERY conceivable piece of laundry. I am expecting the late game to be similar.

[homer]

would have been interesting to see how this one played out had Washington not shot themselves in the foot 4 or 5 times.

[HarryDoyle]

Don't let the officials in KC know you can just give points to a team.