Game 16: Ravens @ Packers - Saturday, Dec. 27th @ 7:00 PM

[adambr2]

Three straight seasons of no improvement and we still have posters here who want to ride MLF’s jock for his regular season record during the Aaron Rodgers years.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Just now, homer said:

I don't think you can blame injuries and then also blame MLF

There were coaching warts well before Parsons got hurt, which was the final blow even though there certainly were crushing injuries prior to that. 

They probably should have been at least two games clear of Chicago before playing the second game. Cleveland never should have happened. Chicago never should have happened. The offensive guru came through with 7 points in a home game against Philadelphia. The conservative stalling in Dallas that forced settling for a tie that they almost didn't even get. Carolina was another debacle but I won't pin it on him, just an OK team that obliterated us up front when it counted like many teams have. 

The dumb challenges that seem like emotional decisions. Consistently stupid use of timeouts. Not doing anything about his ST unit because his friend is the coach. It's not like his 2nd year either. 

I would have liked to see how this season goes with Wyatt and Parsons, sure. Maybe it saves him. But it didn't happen and I don't think we need another year of the other stuff. 

[Jopal78]

10 minutes ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

Golden must have awful practice habits or something. I don't know. But he either absolutely sucks or did something to upset LaFleur. He may as well have been sent to the minors this year. 

Golden is likely the smallest guy on the field at under six feet and less than 190 lbs.  Probably having trouble with the physicality of the NFL, which is also why they tried to get him in space by running  sweeps, etc. 

Pretty big disappointment as a first round pick even for the Packers

[yourout]

Kind of surprising how bad the NFC North was this year coming off of last year

[homer]

1 minute ago, Jopal78 said:

Golden is likely the smallest guy on the field at under six feet and less than 190 lbs.  Probably having trouble with the physicality of the NFL, which is also why they tried to get him in space by running  sweeps, etc. 

Pretty big disappointment as a first round pick even for the Packers

they have t really needed him since Reed and Watson came back. He's been fine. He'll be better next year 

[OldSchoolSnapper]

11 minutes ago, Jopal78 said:

They didn’t beat Hurts, Prescott, Nix, split against Caleb Williams.

Beat Goff twice, split against Flacco, beat McCarthy, Rodgers, Winston, Brissett and Jayden Daniels… big group of studs there.

When the dust clears on the season they will have beat just 2 (Chicago, Pittsburgh) maybe 3 (Detroit) winning teams. 

But hey it’s the metrics that says their great even though 9 games their defense had negative expected points….

Oh please dude. The Eagles scored 10 points. Hurts threw for 180 yards. "Split against Flacco" in another game when their offense scored 10 points and had a FG blocked. You can't be serious. 

The Bears had two field goals for 58 minutes. 

They were on their way to beating the brakes off Denver until the season unraveled in a 5 minute span. 

It's hard to play elite QBs when there are like 3 of them, you must not have been paying enough attention to notice it's kind of been a storyline in the NFL this season. 

I get it. You're upset how the season unfolded. It's expected to feel like that. 

[wOOgiE22]

The question now is does MLF get canned if they go 0-5 down the stretch. Malik and Watson balled out, but the rest of the team just mailed it in. That was brutal.   This is now 2 years in a row backing into the playoffs. 

[adambr2]

3 minutes ago, homer said:

they have t really needed him since Reed and Watson came back. He's been fine. He'll be better next year 

You should need a guy that you draft in the first round.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

1 minute ago, adambr2 said:

You should need a guy that you draft in the first round.

Hey, at least next year we won't have this problem 

[homer]

3 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

You should need a guy that you draft in the first round.

why?

[Jopal78]

9 minutes ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

Oh please dude. The Eagles scored 10 points. Hurts threw for 180 yards. 

The Bears had two field goals for 58 minutes. 

They were on their way to beating the brakes off Denver until the season unraveled in a 5 minute span. 

I get it. You're upset how the season unfolded. It's expected to feel like that. 

Beating the brakes! Ha. The game is 60 minutes not 30.

Williams threw a pick in the end zone to end it but drove the Bears right through the Packers D with the game on the line with Parsons.  

I’m not upset with how the season unfolded; they’re going to finish about where I expected.  The Packers were a crap team last year that convinced themselves they were a contender and sold their future to get Parsons. One player doesn’t take a team lacking premium talent all over the roster and instantly make them a Super Bowl contender. 
 

Don’t get me wrong Parsons is great; until he went down, you could almost forget the Packers don’t have a decent CB on their roster. My point is to dispel this notion they were some awesome team before he got hurt because that’s objectively not true

 

[HarryDoyle]

Even Tauscher is dressing down the defense right now. Fire LeFleur.

[homer]

5 minutes ago, Jopal78 said:

Beating the brakes! Ha. The game is 60 minutes not 30.

Williams threw a pick in the end zone to end it but drove the Bears right through the Packers D with the game on the line with Parsons.  

I’m not upset with how the season unfolded; they’re going to finish about where I expected.  

Next year, can you post your expectations before the season and not after a week 15 loss? thanks 

[adambr2]

7 minutes ago, homer said:

why?

Because it’s literally the cheapest way to get really good players.

If you’re failing at drafting in the first round, you’re failing your organization.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

3 minutes ago, Jopal78 said:

Beating the brakes! Ha. The game is 60 minutes not 30.

Williams threw a pick in the end zone to end it but drove the Bears right through the Packers D with the game on the line with Parsons.  

I’m not upset with how the season unfolded; they’re going to finish about where I expected.  The Packers were a crap team last year that convinced themselves they were a contender and sold their future to get Parsons. One player doesn’t take a team lacking premium talent all over the roster and instantly make them a Super Bowl contender. 
 

Don’t get me wrong Parsons is great; until he went down, you could almost forget the Packers don’t have a decent CB on their roster. My point is to dispel this notion they were some awesome team before he got hurt because that’s objectively not true

 

Yes and the 60 minute game was headed for disaster for Denver until 3 of the Packers top 10 players were hurt in 5 minutes. 

Sold their future? What future did they sell? Another Jordan Morgan? Van Ness? A WR they won't play and will be lucky to finish with 400 yards? I think any GM on the planet makes that trade for Parsons. 

You're upset and spleen venting. 

I get that -  but I don't get your thesis. The Packers literally were a contender 2 weeks ago. They were literally sitting at the 2 seed, with a 9 point lead and the ball in the second half against the AFC 2 seed. I don't know how else you define contender. 

[duewizard]

I hope Malik gets paiddd.

Tune passing TD to Isaiah Neyor next week will hit like crack.

Season's done. Just watching when I'm bored/have nothing else to do

[homer]

1 minute ago, adambr2 said:

Because it’s literally the cheapest way to get really good players.

If you’re failing at drafting in the first round, you’re failing your organization.

I would only consider it a failure if the offense was bad. The offense was just fine. 

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Malik is fine and everything and maybe he's good, he was at one point evaluated as a top talent. But it's amusing watching people call for him to start here as if he's actually done much of anything. He has never really had to play against anyone good. Never been extensively scouted against. And I don't mean to knock him at all, but some of these performances people have worshipped him over, he's gone like 5/6 with 70 yards. He's done everything and more the Packers could have asked from him, but in no way do I believe he's better than Jordan Love. 

[yourout]

Just now, OldSchoolSnapper said:

Malik is fine and everything and maybe he's good, he was at one point evaluated as a top talent. But it's amusing watching people call for him to start here as if he's actually done much of anything. He has never really had to play against anyone good. Never been extensively scouted against. And I don't mean to knock him at all, but some of these performances people have worshipped him over, he's gone like 5/6 with 70 yards. He's done everything and more the Packers could have asked from him, but in no way do I believe he's better than Jordan Love. 

He's not necessarily better than Love but with our current offensive line he's a better fit.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Very hard to feel good about where this team is headed. This season is shot, but the bigger problem is money tied up in Banks, Hobbs (my God what whiffs), potentially Jacobs...the two young stars, Kraft and Parsons, coming off ACLs. The OL has issues. The secondary is a mess. Not great assets to improve other areas of the team. It's not looking good. This was definitely a go for it type season and it looked like it might pay off until 2 weeks ago. Looks very different now. 

[adambr2]

4 minutes ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

Very hard to feel good about where this team is headed. This season is shot, but the bigger problem is money tied up in Banks, Hobbs (my God what whiffs), potentially Jacobs...the two young stars, Kraft and Parsons, coming off ACLs. The OL has issues. The secondary is a mess. Not great assets to improve other areas of the team. It's not looking good. This was definitely a go for it type season and it looked like it might pay off until 2 weeks ago. Looks very different now. 

So Gute sucks. 

[yourout]

Just now, adambr2 said:

So Gute sucks. 

I think much like our head coach he's pretty average. 

Not terrible but not good either.

[Jimbo]

Can't remember the last time I watched a televised game and see the defensive starters introduced at 7:06 of the 2nd quarter.

 

[homer]

Gary hasn't had a sack since October and was behind Van Ness and Enagbare in snaps. He's a goner 

[nate82]

Thanks Packers D.  Now I don't have to worry about the game tomorrow!