2026 NFL Draft Discussion

[LouisEly]

4 minutes ago, BrewerFan said:

I hate the Vikings. Just giving the Eagles a guy who, with Carter and Davis, should get 12+ sacks. Brilliant. 

He only had 3 sacks last year in 12 games, 10 starts.

People were complaining about Gary,,, and the Viqueens got two 3rds for Greenard

[OldHeidelberg]

5 minutes ago, LouisEly said:

He only had 3 sacks last year in 12 games, 10 starts.

People were complaining about Gary,,, and the Viqueens got two 3rds for Greenard

Yes, that is just nuts. This is a guy the Vikes picked up in free agency a couple of years ago. I feel like what is reported can't be true. Two 3rds?

[homer]

52 minutes ago, LouisEly said:

Bears drafting Logan Jones.  Now the Packers need to go up and get Orange because he destroyed Iowa's interior OL.  Orange's 34" arms vs Jones' 30" arms... LOL.

[bjkrautk]

Trade up....Big Citrus?

 

EDIT: right position, wrong guy.  McClellan from Mizzouri.

[LouisEly]

Pack just traded up...

Gotta be Orange or DDS

[CheezWizHed]

1 minute ago, LouisEly said:

Pack just traded up...

Gotta be Orange or DDS

Or not.. 

[LouisEly]

Dammit... he was a guy I identified early on, but didn't think he would be able to play the A-gap.

I should know, Gutey likes those SEC guys.

CB and DT.  Right church, wrong pews.

[HarryDoyle]

1 minute ago, LouisEly said:

Dammit... he was a guy I identified early on, but didn't think he would be able to play the A-gap.

I should know, Gutey likes those SEC guys.

CB and DT.  Right church, wrong pews.

Missouri is an SEC team like UCLA is a Big Ten team.

[CheezWizHed]

2 minutes ago, LouisEly said:

Dammit... he was a guy I identified early on, but didn't think he would be able to play the A-gap.

I should know, Gutey likes those SEC guys.

CB and DT.  Right church, wrong pews.

Singing from the same hymnal

[homer]

 

 

[CheezWizHed]

Chris McClellan with 34" arms and 11" hands.  Big dude. 

[LouisEly]

1 minute ago, CheezWizHed said:

Chris McClellan with 34" arms and 11" hands.  Big dude. 

Logan Jones just soiled himself

[BrewerFan]

43 minutes ago, LouisEly said:

He only had 3 sacks last year in 12 games, 10 starts.

People were complaining about Gary,,, and the Viqueens got two 3rds for Greenard

Yes... because Greenard was better than Gary last year despite being hurt. 

Better pressure %, better vs the run, better the previous two years... and while I think sacks are a bit overrated, he had 12 and 12.5 the previous two. 
Now he moves to a much better DL. 

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Packers must really believe they don't have an OL problem. I hope they're right. 

[CheezWizHed]

1 minute ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

Packers must really believe they don't have an OL problem. I hope they're right. 

Well, they just picked two players that will probably start on defense.  It is unlikely an OL picked will start... so it seems like they feel those are bigger needs. They still have more picks tomorrow. I'll eat my hat if they don't draft one OL if not two. 

[LouisEly]

2 minutes ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

Packers must really believe they don't have an OL problem. I hope they're right. 

1st round pick at LT, big FA contract at LG, 3rd round pick at C, 2nd round pick at RG, big contract extension at RT.

I think they need better backups, but I think they had bigger overall needs.

[patrickgpe]

34 minutes ago, LouisEly said:

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CB and DT.  Right church, wrong pews.

I’m happy. It’s not the defensive tackle I wanted, but I don’t spend all day every day scouting these players. Let’s give Gutey the benefit of the doubt. I don’t worry about individual players as much as position. 

[OldSchoolSnapper]

I don't have a big problem with either selection but they did address both positions with veterans already. The left side of that line is a huge question mark. I don't really care what Banks is getting paid if he plays like he did last year. Jordan Morgan lost his job to Walker. I am not sure why anyone would assume that someone picked today wouldn't be an upgrade to him just because he was a bad first round pick 2 years ago. 

He is playing one of the most important positions on the field. 

[OldSchoolSnapper]

And this is all assuming the starters won't miss 20 games among them, which seems to happen every year. CB was a glaring hole. I would have liked an OL with the second pick. 

[LouisEly]

Kacmarek gone in the 3rd.   The run on TEs continues.

There goes Kaelon Black.  Before Mike Washington.

[LouisEly]

Looking at the picks for CHI, DET, and MIN, there isn't anyone who they picked who I thought was a great value or that I'm upset about except for maybe Sam Roush.  Thieneman was a good need pick, but Logan Jones was a reach.

[BrewerFan]

41 minutes ago, LouisEly said:

1st round pick at LT, big FA contract at LG, 3rd round pick at C, 2nd round pick at RG, big contract extension at RT.

I think they need better backups, but I think they had bigger overall needs.

Yeah, but it was still a pretty bad unit. The LT hasn't really played LT, Tom has a serious knee injury, Rhyan was an upgrade over Jenkins at C, but that was more about Jenkins and Banks was both injured and bad at OG. 

There were people saying Morgan was a better LT than Walker last year, but Morgan provided versatility than Walker didn't. Banks being healthy could help. We've already paid, so might as well take that out of the discussion, he's locked in. Rhyan, have to hope a full year playing Center helps him play better and the most important part would be Tom healthy and ready to go week 1. 

I'm glad they went CB/DL over Edge/WR... as fun as it would have been to grab Hurst. 

I hope this improves Gute's Batting Average in the 3rd rd....especially when trading up. 

[LouisEly]

6 minutes ago, BrewerFan said:

The LT hasn't really played LT, Tom has a serious knee injury, Rhyan was an upgrade over Jenkins at C

Nobody in the draft has played LT in the NFL, they've said that Tom will be ready for minicamp, and they wouldn't have given Rhyan the extension if they didn't think he could be a quality center with a full offseason of work at center.

Tom only played a little over half of the offensive snaps last year.  Same with Belton, who was a rookie.  Rhyan only played half the snaps at center, and Morgan played none of the snaps at LT.  So to use last year's OL performance as a barometer for this year doesn't really make sense because, for the most part, it isn't the same guys at the same positions.

[BrewerFan]

46 minutes ago, LouisEly said:

Nobody in the draft has played LT in the NFL 

 I'm not sure the point here. Nobody in the draft has played CB in the NFL. You're still drafting trying to improve that position. 

We're counting on Aaron Banks who is 5 years in, Sean Rhyan-4 years in and Anthony Belton... plus Jordan Morgan to be a better LT than Rasheed Walker... and hoping that Zach Tom can come back from a very difficult injury and be as effective.

 

46 minutes ago, LouisEly said:

So to use last year's OL performance as a barometer for this year doesn't really make sense because, for the most part, it isn't the same guys at the same positions.

Right, but this is why it's generally not a great idea to take part of one sentence from a quote and then making an inference based on that. I didn't say they needed help just because I watched their OL play last year.  They didn't exactly have a dominant OL the year before that when Walker was playing at a much higher level than he did last year, you still have Elgton Jenkins, a healthy Tom(didn't see where they said he'd be ready for Mini-Camp, but the fact remains, even looking at this OL optimistically, he's the one player who looks like he'll be above average.

This was part of my post, but... doesn't fit the narrative that I'm only looking at last years unit to arrive at the conclusion that we could use an upgrade on the OL.

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There were people saying Morgan was a better LT than Walker last year, but Morgan provided versatility than Walker didn't. 

The fact is, they signed Rhyan to what amounts to a cheap deal because the FA center class was so weak and we have nobody else who is a viable backup. That was a move likely made out of necessity, but some abundance of confidence that Sean Rhyan will be a better Center with more reps. He'll be starting his 5th year. But god help us if he's not a better C. He had a 38 pass blocking grade by PFF. 
 
-I didn't also certainly did not suggest they should draft a LT to replace Morgan. 
-Banks being bad and or hurt isn't much of a departure from his time in SF. 

 I would say looking at how they played last year is more of an indicator than what rounds they were previously picked in or how much they were paid(especially with regard to Banks)... but more than that, the obvious importance of an offensive line and how the teams that have beaten us being the ones who can control the LOS, that would probably be a better reason than either. 

[homer]

You can't fill four positions with two picks.