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1 hour ago, nate82 said:

Yeah 36 wins was overly optimistic.  There is no way this team wins that many games even before the season started.

I still standby the 2014-2016 76ers as the talent level for this team.  I wouldn’t expect the Bucks to be any better than a 20-25 win team if they even get that many wins.  

Well, wishful thinking. 25 seemed realistic, but I thought maybe a new coach that was allegedly good might be able to grit them to mid 30s and near a play-in. They're not even close to that.

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3 hours ago, homer said:

I would be hopeful for a full tank but I don't think they have a 1st round pick.

They will lose any draft picks as punishment for the Gary Trent Jr. debacle.  What the heck?

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On 11/3/2026 at 1:09 PM, homer said:

I would be hopeful for a full tank but I don't think they have a 1st round pick.

Our 1st round pick is a pick swap with NO (currently 4-4) but is top 4 protected. As long as we don't lose the pick to a Trent penalty it looks like a decent chance we will be in the top 4. It did take the league over a year (pretty sure) to investigate and rule on the Kawhi penalty for the Clippers so I wouldn't be surprised if there is a penalty that it isn't until after next years draft.

I find it a strange catch 22 when thinking about tanking, i think tanking might actually mean playing Turner, Kuz, and Green. I think Ware, Ament, and Burries (Jak, Deing, Sims as well) are much better than the vets. It seems obvious that we will deal Herro and maybe Rollins if he plays a bit better.

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5 hours ago, jay87shot said:

Our 1st round pick is a pick swap with NO (currently 4-4) but is top 4 protected. As long as we don't lose the pick to a Trent penalty it looks like a decent chance we will be in the top 4. It did take the league over a year (pretty sure) to investigate and rule on the Kawhi penalty for the Clippers so I wouldn't be surprised if there is a penalty that it isn't until after next years draft.

I find it a strange catch 22 when thinking about tanking, i think tanking might actually mean playing Turner, Kuz, and Green. I think Ware, Ament, and Burries (Jak, Deing, Sims as well) are much better than the vets. It seems obvious that we will deal Herro and maybe Rollins if he plays a bit better.

Does the first-round swap happen before or after the lottery drawing? It would be funny if the swap happened before, but the ping-pong ball bounced our way and we ended up with the higher slot. 

"Rock, sometime, when the team is up against it, and the breaks are beating the boys, tell 'em to go out there with all they got and win just one for the Uecker. I don't know where I'll be then, Rock but I'll know about it; and I'll be happy."

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16 minutes ago, CheezWizHed said:

Does the first-round swap happen before or after the lottery drawing? It would be funny if the swap happened before, but the ping-pong ball bounced our way and we ended up with the higher slot. 

It’s done once the draft order is known so after the ping pong balls.

If the Bucks get hit with a draft pick loss it will be the 2031 or 2032 pick or both.

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46 minutes ago, nate82 said:

It’s done once the draft order is known so after the ping pong balls.

If the Bucks get hit with a draft pick loss it will be the 2031 or 2032 pick or both.

I figured... just thought it would be funny if they swapped prior. 

GTJ - 12.5 min in 2 games with 6 DNP-CD.  The FA contract looks more embarrassing by the (benched) minute.  

"Rock, sometime, when the team is up against it, and the breaks are beating the boys, tell 'em to go out there with all they got and win just one for the Uecker. I don't know where I'll be then, Rock but I'll know about it; and I'll be happy."

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Rollins looks absolutely horrible like he doesn’t even belong in the NBA development league.  What a massive disappointment so far this year.

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On 11/3/2026 at 12:49 PM, nate82 said:

They don’t.  Fanspo has a great breakdown of the picks the Bucks have.  They don’t own their own pick until 2031 without a swap.

https://fanspo.com/nba/teams/bucks/17/draft-picks

So if I'm reading this correctly, we have no first round pick in 27 at all, the top four protection is for NO going to ATL.  In 28 we will get a first round pick, but its a mess.  First Portland could swap with us and then washington could swap for that pick with either their own, Brooklyn, Philly, or pheonixs, but it would be the worst of those 4?

Remember what Yoda said:

 

"Cubs lead to Cardinals. Cardinals lead to dislike. Dislike leads to hate. Hate leads to constipation."

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19 minutes ago, young guns said:

So if I'm reading this correctly, we have no first round pick in 27 at all, the top four protection is for NO going to ATL.  In 28 we will get a first round pick, but its a mess.  First Portland could swap with us and then washington could swap for that pick with either their own, Brooklyn, Philly, or pheonixs, but it would be the worst of those 4?

Correct the Bucks don't own their pick for 2027 the way that it is worded it seems like the pick is protected for the Bucks but it is not.  The pick is only protected for the Pelicans and not the Bucks.  The 2027 pick will go to New Orleans regardless of where the Bucks finish.  If the Bucks get the #1 pick it goes to the Pelicans. If the Bucks get the #5 pick it goes to the Pelicans and then is moved to the Hawks assuming the Pelicans own pick is in the top 4.  It's possible the Pelicans finish outside the top 4 and the Bucks pick lands in the top 4 which means the Pelicans get that pick and they trade their pick to the Hawks.  

The Bucks have 0 first round picks for the 2027 draft and hold two second round picks.  The Bucks then don't even own their 2028 draft pick and could be drafting even lower.  The Bucks also don't own their 2029 pick.  They don't own their pick until 2030 and the one they received from Miami in the Giannis trade they won't even own that pick assuming that pick is worse than their own.  But things get better after the 2030 draft as they own all of their first round picks from then on. 

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Tried to watch some of the game tonight. Its going to be a long year and without the draft pick coming back as compensation its going to be a long year. Horst needs to focus on moving whoever he can for picks besides Burries and Ware. Maybe Ware and Jakucionis. 

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17 minutes ago, patrickgpe said:

Tried to watch some of the game tonight. Its going to be a long year and without the draft pick coming back as compensation its going to be a long year. Horst needs to focus on moving whoever he can for picks besides Burries and Ware. Maybe Ware and Jakucionis. 

I watched a bit of the 2nd quarter, worst basketball I have seen.

3rd quarter and now 4th mostly a rotation of Jak, Dieng, Jacques, Ament, and Ware and they have looked great. No Kuz, Turner, Green, and Rollins and they look competitive against the champs. The 1st half was so bad they are out of it but they look capable.

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14 minutes ago, jay87shot said:

I watched a bit of the 2nd quarter, worst basketball I have seen.

3rd quarter and now 4th mostly a rotation of Jak, Dieng, Jacques, Ament, and Ware and they have looked great. No Kuz, Turner, Green, and Rollins and they look competitive against the champs. The 1st half was so bad they are out of it but they look capable.

Turner, Kuz, Rollins playing alot in the 4th and we are losing the quarter 21-6, hah

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22 minutes ago, jay87shot said:

I watched a bit of the 2nd quarter, worst basketball I have seen.

3rd quarter and now 4th mostly a rotation of Jak, Dieng, Jacques, Ament, and Ware and they have looked great. No Kuz, Turner, Green, and Rollins and they look competitive against the champs. The 1st half was so bad they are out of it but they look capable.

I tapped out. I don't care about wins and losses but I want to see controllable guys improve. That is encouraging. If they can move expiring contracts for picks, even better. 

Turner has a +/- of -24. Burries -23. OMG

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I don't see a way how Turner will bring back anything but a 2nd round pick and an expiring contract.  There is no way any team would want to part with anything of value for him.  Kuz has about the same or even more value than Turner.  

Turner has turned into either #1 or #2 on the worst free agent signing in team history.  Just an absolutely horrible player he is Greg Monroe bad.

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I figured they'd be pretty bad this year, but this is worse. I assumed we'd see one or two emerging stars from the Giannis deal. Would any of you more-regular watchers say we have that? Jacucionis about the best of them so far? I figured it'd be Ware but he doesn't seem to enjoy defense.

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