at this point i'm still able to go back and forth whether i like the two trades or not. Lawrie and Odorizzi have "special" written all over them, and that's hard to give up. unless they're punching teammates or pledging allegiance to Mussolini, i don't really care what their personalities are--that's what a good manager is there to control. being shocked that an underage Lawrie drinks malt liquor and has a cocky attitude is really holding them to a superhuman standard. i wouldn't be surprised if a lot of current players were actually jerks in the locker room already, despite how they appear to the media. i don't think we really understood how bad Quevedo and Alex Sanchez were on this team until they finally left. would it be about right to guess that the Jeffress/Odorizzi/Lawrie combo makes six All-Star appearances between them by the time they hit free agency? maybe that's even ambitious. but then in Greinke and Marcum it sure looks like they could each be an All-Star in both of their next two years--that's four appearances. so we're talking four versus six. that's a decent bit of production to give up, but then there's such a short window for us Middle Class ballclubs to make the playoffs, that maybe that risk is worth it. or maybe i'm just convincing myself of that because it's what we have now. my fear if we didn't make the trade is that we'd look like the Jason Bay Pirates in four years, having one or two good, young players but with no support around them and fighting a losing battle. keeping the prospects but having a lot of money to spend in Free Agency hasn't shown to be a winning strategy. in some respects, i like the trade based on how Free Agency has historically gone for us. it's near impossible to get the money and then convince a top-flight FA to come to Milwaukee. in some respects, i think some of the value in this trade is in the gamble that one of these two likes Milwaukee and decides to resign with us, even for a competitive salary. if Greinke weren't already a Brewer (his personal issues notwithstanding), i wouldn't hold any hope of him coming here. at whatever price it takes, for me, these two trades becoming a good value for us hinges entirely on our ability to resign one of Marcum and Greinke. if they both leave, then i'll regret the trade. if one stays, then i'll live with Jake or Matt becoming a top-flight player for another team.