You're right. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif You said "iOS5 runs on the 3GS I've heard (though not with all the features)." By the time I posted, I somehow read in "Siri." The point I was trying to make is that not all iOS 5 features are available on every device. I'm fine with that, just like I'm fine with Android-based devices not including every new feature. However, security updates need to be made available expeditiously to those who don't want to root their devices, and they should be made available for all devices that are likely to still be under contract. It'll be interesting to see how well Apple does with the iPhone 3GS. At the point that the 3GS is likely to be discontinued, three years will have elapsed since its release. With two year contracts being required, it'd be reasonable to expect two more years of security updates. Agreed about the security updates, and as I said before, there is no indication Android phone makers are doing this at a rate worse or better than Apple.