He makes the same silly mistakes that they all do. For sure. When you evaluate a manager, you almost have to throw out all those mistakes and work with what's left. Even though I think it's a flawed strategy, I can't blame a manager for assigning certain relief pitchers to certain innings, for instance. Everybody's doing it. What I can do though, is blame a manager for making that bad structure worse than it has to be by picking the wrong guys for these roles. IMO a manager has a smaller impact on a game than most people think. Most people who try to objectively quantify a manager's impact will absolutely agree with you. If you cruise the message boards, you'll see lots of exaggerated posts suggesting that a manager has directly caused pretty large numbers of losses. In reality, we're probably dealing with a swing of ± 3 games. That's still a range of 6 games over the course of a season, though. If one can objectively place a manager at either of the extremes, I believe some credit or blame can be assigned. I'm giving Ned a 2008 C- so far. I want a larger sample. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif I was ready to jettison him after the Boston series, but smooth sailing since then has pretty much tempered that feeling.