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IMO the more fringe candidates like Dawson and Rice you let in,it just allows other fringe ones with somewhat comparable numbers to say what about me.The Hall then gets watered down,which i dont think is a good thing.

Simmons played in two very pitcher friendly ballparks,that needs to be factored in. I'd vote yes on him and no doubt before i'd put in Rice

He had to many Carlos Lee type of seasons IMO to get in the Hall.If he had a few more Albert Bell/Manny type of years,then i'd say yes.

He wouldnt get my vote if i had one Closers dont have to worry about getting fatigued or facing hitters 3-4 times in a game.They get to throw as hard as they can and can get by with only two pitches.Except for the rare elite closer like Rivera that can be dominant for a long stretch of time,i wouldnt give Hall invites to any of them. To show what a joke the save stat is,about a week ago Schilling got a real classic.Enters the game winning 7-3 and two outs in the 9th,men on first and second.He gets a guy to hit a line drive that gets caught and he gets a save for 1 pitch in a game with a 4 run lead without the bases being loaded.He could have given up a 3-run jack and still got the save,how silly is that.

I really think Clemens hasn't recieved to the attention he deserves for the year he is having. 1.32ERA .93WHIP He's doing this in a tiny ballpark and at the age of 43.With any run support he'd easily have close to 20 wins already.In 24 starts he's given up earned run numbers of 4 runs--1 time 3 runs--1 time 2 runs--5 times 1 run---7 times 0 runs--10 times

did they give you any reason tonight to have any iota of pride being a brewer fan How come you never post anything except this same stuff? They quit.They are stupid.They have no pride.They have no heart.They werent prepared.They quit.Bla bla bla bla bla

AWWWWWW, steroid Helton thought he had the HR and flips his bat like a punk. Looked to me the way he shook his head,he flipped the bat in disgust like he knew right away he just missed hitting it clean.

Come on Ned,it's only 8-2,let Sheets battle through a few more batters.

Branyan has a sweet looking swing,makes me wonder why his BA has been so low and his K numbers so high in his career.

Yea you would think with the long strides,Hart would have trouble getting up to high speed so quick.

That was sweet Corey hit every ball hard today

The problem wih the productive outs therory is baseball is a 162 game season.It's not like football where 3-4 plays can decide whether a team is 10-6 and in the playoffs or 8-8 sitting home. Sure in certain games a "productive out" can be very important,but in the grand scheme of a long baseball season it's far more important to just have alot of hitters that get on base/have power.Over the roughly 5000 at bats a team has,what they do in the 97% of the time where a "productive out" wouldnt even factor in,that will dictate far more how productive an offense is.

Teams score runs by having good hitters,not in the way they make their outs.Teams like Boston and New York though are blessed to be incredibly rich so they can afford having 1-5 hitters that make more money than the Brewers payroll,they should score runs by the truckload. The job for Melvin is via the draft/trade/free agency to not find guys that make productve outs,but to find hitters that can hit somewhat close to Manny/Damon/Sheffield/Arod without having to buy them like those teams can.

First time ever I actually agreed with a point by Bill Scroeder.That ball shouldnt have fallin for a hit in that situation.

Typical of managers,dont bring in your closer regardless of the situation because its not the 9th inning.It's blows me away how many managers will let games get away in the 8th inning simply because someone decided a few years ago your shutdown relief pitcher can only be used in the 9th. Maybe Turnbow doesnt get out of the 8th with the lead intact,but i see it alot in baseball.A 2 run lead in the 7th-8th inning with runners on base and it's probably the game if the winning team gets out of the inning.Instead of bringing in say Lidge or Wagner,in comes a pitcher with an ERA over 4 and they give up a gapper.Closer sits on his butt and never even makes it in the game as they lose.

These are the games i usually get stuck attending,i've got bad karma with the Brewers.Fork out 50-75 bucks going to a game and they score one run in the first inning before i'm in my seat.The rest of the game 3-4 singles and a yawnfest crowd as the bats do nothing. Glad i didn't go tonight,i changed my mind last minute.

That sure was a thrilling game to watch

O, I also love how you fail to point out that the 2 teams with the highest OBP rank 1 and 2 in runs scored. You can cherry pick examples that "prove" your point, but that doesn't prove anything. I dont think i was cherry picking at all.Texas the last two years had a top 5 offense while carrying a poor OBP and so did the White Sox last year.As for the top two run scoring teams being 1-2 in OBP,they are also ranked 3rd/5th in SLG,not 18th in OBP like Texas this year and 21st last year. For OBP being such a dominant stat over all others,pretty odd Florida is 5th in OBP/21st in runs while Texas is 18th OBP/3rd in runs. Oakland's OBP is a lousy 7 points higher, while they give up 78 points of SLG, and you think that proves that SLG is more important, point by point? Why does point by point play into this?Teams slug at a higher number than their OBP,of course the variance in a few percentage points in OBP will be greater than slugging when it comes to affecting an offense. We probably arent on the same page here.I've just heard how much more important OBP is to SLG more than once and then i look at in general where teams finish in runs scored compared to where they rank in OBP/SLG and i see nothing i those rankings to make me think OBP is that dominant. This year the top 8 teams in SLG% are all in the top 8 in runs except Atlanta who is 9th in runs,is that just fluke? Three of the top 8 OBP teams are Florida/San Diego/Oakland,in runs they rank 12th/13th/21st in runs.Florida is 5th in OBP and 21st in runs,more just fluke?How do these last two things happen if OBP is almost double as important as slugging? In the last three years if you looked at the top 10 teams in runs scored,24 of those 30 teams were also in the top 10 in SLG%.Two of those that missed were 11th in runs.Is that cherry picking? I'm not trying to be an ass or pick a fight.I'll admit i dont care enough to read a ton a baseball sites to number crunch all kind of stats.If you can explain away these rankings,i'll gladly admit i'm wrong.

If OBP is nearly TWICE as important than slugging how is Texas third in runs scored and 18th in OBP and 1st in SLG? White Sox/Texas finish 3rd/4th in runs last year but finish 15th/21st in OBP? This year the top 8 teams in SLG% are all in the top 8 in runs except Atlanta who is 9th in runs. Three of the top 8 OBP teams are Florida/San Diego/Oakland,in runs they rank 12th/13th/21st in runs.Florida is 5th in OBP and 21st in runs. In the last three years if you looked at the top 10 teams in runs scored,24 of those 30 teams were also in the top 10 in SLG%.Two of those that missed were 11th in runs. In the same 3 year span 23 teams in the top 10 in runs were also in the top 10 in OBP. In the last three years,the 10 worst SLG teams finished among the 10 worst scoring teams 27 out of 30 times regardless of their OBP numbers. Good luck trying have a very prolific offense without a high SLG%,even if the team gets on base well.If OBP is so much more important than SLG,then why dont the rankings in runs scored show a higher correlation?Sure seems to me where a team ranks in SLG compared to other teams will play as big or nearly as big a role as OBP in how high they rank in runs scored.

Holy crap,was that really Dusty Baker being carefull with a starting pitcher?

when the hell do you plan on making any comment putting YOURSELF out on a limb? People give their opnions about players,managers,and teams everyday on this board.Only difference is the vast majority don't feel the need to act like a child and tell everyone they were right if something they felt would happen ended up coming true. Your comment that people should "put themselves out on a limb" about a player or team tells the whole story about how petty you truely are. As for Hall,his brain is catching up with his talent.He had the same quick bat and power last year,but he finally realized that hacking at every pitch thrown wasn't a good plan.Great to see,whenever i hear him interviewed he sounds like a great guy and teammate.He keeps that same attitude and continues to work hard,his gifts will make him a wealthy young man.

and the winner of the Brwerfan.net most shamelessly self congratulatory post goes to..... Scoooooop! That's ole Scoop for ya.Making countless predictions and when one pans out he's patting himself on the back like a little child.When he makes stupid predictions that fail miserably like Jenkins or the Cardinals barely being better than the Brewers last year,he comes up with a bunch of qualifiers or excuses for being so wrong. Pretty sad a grown man acts so petty

Wow I go make some food and had the radio on,didnt here what was going on while Toronta batted.Come back into the frontroom,it's 6-0. Game over already

That ballpark is a real dump Mix in their yearly crappy teams and no fans,they quickly are becoming the Expos.

We have an automatic out 5-9 today Jenkins vs lefties .212/.307/.379/.685 Overbay vs lefties .208/.255/.354/.609 Those two vs lefties have been automatic outs all season