Since we were sort of on the topic of PED's and whatnot, I just want to say that it's incredibly unfair to judge on body type and keep a player out of the Hall, especially one as great as Bagwell. There are certainly guys that are already in that likely used them, and there will be plenty more to join. There is such a bias toward power hitters that it's laughable. Clemens (who will go in) had actual physical evidence tying him to steroid use, but there isn't the cloud of suspicion surrounding pitchers. Randy Johnson springs to mind immediately, but the fact that he was tall and thin, he never would show as pronounced an effect as a hypothetical user like Bagwell. The thing is, Bagwell had a pretty natural career arc for a HOF talent level player, with his production dropping in his early 30's, never putting up insane HR totals (even after moving into Enron), and never being "freakishly" big. He played with Caminiti. That's pretty much all. Then you get to Johnson. The guy who was striking out 300 a season in his mid and late 30's, and punched out 290 at age 40. He played with a load of almost certain juicers, with that 2001 D'Backs team being the closest thing to poster boys for juicing since the '93 Phils or the Bash Brothers A's. You had the likes of Matt Williams, Luis Gonzalez, Jay Bell, and Steve Finley on that team, who all are quite suspect in their own right. To me, there is every bit as much to tie Johnson to PED's (actually, far more) as there is Bagwell, but every time Bagwell's name came up in the Hall of Fame discussion this year, steroids were in the same breath. Despite the fact that he wasn't in the Canseco book, wasn't in the Mitchell Report, never had his name leak out from the anonymous tests of '03, never had a teammate accuse him, never had one bit of reason to suspect him of wrongdoing aside from being a power hitter in the "steroid era" (who never hit over 47 HR in a season) and being short and stocky. It's just incredibly unfair. He was a truly great player and by all accounts a good guy who loved the game, especially if you remember watching him gut through the later part of his career after he had that shoulder injury. I'm almost never the fan who gets wrapped up in defending athletes, but to me the Bagwell case strikes a nerve.