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Mmmmmm Culvers. I miss that place. They actually had one in the Cincinnati area when I lived there, so I could still get my fix. Now on the East Coast, no such luck. I would go there for sure after a cubs game!

Yes, shocked by Spain! Also, anyone catch that Australia vs Netherlands match? Listened on the radio and the announcer was yelling so much I thought he was going to have a heart attack. It was pretty sweet.

I too fell asleep early, woke up, saw Luc hit a grand slam, but didn't know it was an "in your face" one! Awesome! Great win. I know most of us want to see some retaliation when our guys get hit, and think it will keep other teams from hitting us, but I'm not really sure about that. I'm guilty of that thought often. When you really take a step back, does it actually protect anything? I don't think it does. It's more of a macho thing and probably causes more issues in the long run. Taking the high road is probably the best thing to do.

That was such an intense game to watch. Way too many shots on goal in the second half. When Ghana scored I felt deflated. Right before we scored our 2nd I said, we need a miracle here! Bam! We got it!! So awesome. Seems like we will be without Jozy as that seems to be pretty bad. How bad is that going to hurt us?

I remember coming in to the basement, from playing baseball in the backyard. My mom had it on on the TV down there. I don't remember a ton, just the classic footage of the Bronco from above. I remember watching it. I probably remembered him most from the Naked Gun movies at the time!

Really enjoying my first viewing of the World Cup since I started following the game more (2 years ago). I've always watched a little of the World Cup, but it feels bigger to me now. Good stuff.

Man I was super bummed when I heard this. He was a player from my youth that I always enjoyed. Everyone always said how great of a person he was. Always smiling, always loving the game. Sorry to see him go so young.

Was really surprised by the article on the Brewers website stating that Estrada's time is up. Usually don't see stuff like that on there. Time to make a change.

Why is this thread in the what's hot everyday? Is that just for me? Finally looked at it, good story!

Is it legal to quote yourself in a thread?

And they just showed him on the mets broadcast punching himself in the head. Awesome!

Wow I felt bad for Torres there as well.

Taking the IGT Braun discussion here for my response. I agree the initial denials from McGwire, Bonds, Sosa, Clemmons were all very hardcore. As I stated, I don't think there has been anything like Braun since the initial steroids denial from players (that is what I was referring to). I also don't think they really preached like he did. All non Brewer fans would and maybe half of the Brewer fans would say Braun came across as a huge tool and jerk. To the comment that he deserves a second chance because of leaked information. I agree he deserves a second chance, but not because of that. He cheated no matter what. I think he deserves a chance to change, and for that I cheer for him. I also cheer for him because he's a Brewer, but I will not blindly defend him. I get why people cheat, there is so much on the line. I don't get mad at guys who get caught, it just takes away from my respect for what they've accomplished so far. I think a lot of fans like to give players crap, especially good ones. And when Braun laid out that whole speech and acted "holier than though," he set himself up for all that he's getting right now.

I know I know. Heck of a win. Hard to redirect conversations sometimes. We can take it to the Braun thread if you like.

Maybe this is the perfect time to sign him to one and get it for cheap! (mostly in blue)

Man, I don't know how many have denied as hardcore as he did. He went on the attack. I don't think anyone is in this category. Not since the Steroid stuff first came out at least. I think now, everyone's approach has been, say little, say your sorry, take the suspension. Braun: "If I had done this intentionally, or unintentionally, I'd be the first one to step up and say 'I did it.' By no means am I perfect, but if I have ever made any mistakes in my life, I have taken responsibility for my actions...I truly believe in my heart, and would bet my life that this substance never entered my body at any point." He then blamed others for tarnishing his name, and that he was putting the game ahead of himself: "There were a lot of times when I wanted to come out and tell the entire story, to attack everybody as I’ve been attacked, as my name’s been dragged through the mud as everything I’ve worked for my entire life was called into question. There were a lot of times I wanted to come out, tell the entire story, but at the end of the day I recognized what’s actually best for the game of baseball and I put that ahead of what was actually best for myself." He claimed he was fighting for others that were wrongly accused: "I’ve always stood up for what is right. Today is about everybody who’s been wrongly accused, and everybody who’s ever had to stand up for what is actually right...I will continue to take the high road because that’s who I am, and that’s the way that I’ve lived my life. We won because the truth is on my side." And wanted everybody to know that he was the victim: "I am a victim of a process that completely broke down and failed the way it was applied to me in this case."

The first couple of innings the Mets fans weren't in their seats yet. They became very vocal - and god knows how vile - as the game wore on. Why do fans vilify Braun more than other guys who tested positive? Take a step back from your Brewer fandom and it's pretty easy to see why. He was an MVP so he was in the spotlight. He came out and denied it like no other guy has before. Swearing that there was no way he did that. He had guys like Rodgers backing him because of his lies, bringing more attention to it. He also threw the tester under the bus and many people out there think he ruined that guys life (which I don't believe he did). He looked like a huge jerk. That's why.

I also agree now is the time. I also can see Estrada coming back for a few starts down the road and doing well. I have nothing to back this up, but when he has gotten spot starts in the past, he's seemed to do well. I think having him in the pen would be nice.

TheCrew07 - No doubt! I think it's great for people. Like I said, if it makes them feel good, then I'm all for it. There just seems like there is a lot of justification for shirtless selfies that goes along with it, which normally is pegged as douchey. That's what I find funny.

Yes that makes sense to me if he's a throw in and you upgrade your current roster. There was talk in the IGT of trading Yo for a prospect and bumping up one of our guys from the minors. I just don't see a scenario where that would ever happen. Maybe, and I mean maybe....if an AL team lost a pitcher and was desperate, there could be a move there, but that would mean Yo isn't pitching well for us if we think we could let him go. Therefore he really wouldn't bring much back. Just can't see a scenario.

It rubs me the wrong way but I have seen a lot of my friends get in really good shape. Not sure what the long term issues are, haven't looked in to that at all, but many have lost good amounts of weight. So if it puts them in a good place, in the end, I'm happy for them. It's funny though.

There has been a lot of talk about trading someone like Yo at the deadline even if we are in it. Do contenders ever sell a starter/starting pitcher? I just can't see that happening. If a player is average enough that a contender doesn't need them, I doubt another contender would see that person as an asset. Lots of talk about Yo bringing in a good prospect, but I can't see that if he's not going to help us make the playoffs. Maybe I'm looking at it too cut and dry. For the record, I'm all about trading players the year before or the year of their contract coming up but it's really hard to do when you are in the hunt. I just don't know how you pull that off.

Very interesting lineup for tonight. I know RRR said he'd ideally like to have Braun followed by Gomez. Let's see how it works. Could we go segura, luc, Braun, Gomez, Aram?

Keep pouncing on weaker competition! Hope it's a entertaining game tonight.

Nice win tonight. Could have been cleaner but this team likes to make things interesting. Reynolds is a end of the order stud! Is Kinzler showing any decrease in velocity? Just curious. He makes me nervous right now.