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  1. I spoke to that in another thread homer but they don't trade these guys away until there is depth behind them. They traded Shields because they had a full rotation and they have Cobb and Archer coming. Every trade the Rays make is coming from a position of depth where talent is forcing its way into making the player expendable. You can blame the lack of depth on Melvin and it is probably fair but we just have not had depth where it made sense to trade players.
  2. Teams aren't proactive unless they have depth though, it just doesn't happen. The Brewers have never been trading from a position of depth. Find me one case of a team trading a guy just to be proactive about it, even one case. It is always they trade away a guy because they have depth coming up from the minors, they are in rebuild mode, or they need one last guy to make a playoff run. This scenario you suggest just does not happen. James Shields was traded because of Alex Cobb and Chris Archer. Ben Revere and Denard Span were traded because of Aaron Hicks and Joe Benson etc, etc, etc.
  3. The grass is always greener. Tampa has really struggled to draft impact hitting outside of Longoria, they are great at developing pitching it is more development than drafting. STL had a big gap in productive hitters from Pujols until this most recent class. Arizona is a team built largely around FA's right now. The Giants also have largely failed at drafting hitting with Posey being the big exception. Washington did get 2 once in a generation talents but again that was with #1 picks which we haven't had access to lately. You want to know what most of those teams have in common. They keep their talent in the minors as long as they can. You do not want to start service time on a player until they are 100% ready or you plan on locking them up long term. The Cardinals rarely bring anyone up full time until they are age 24+
  4. Actually the last few drafts have been really solid considering how little we had to work with for top end picks. The 2009 draft looks to have 6 potential major league players in it. The 2010 has at least 2. It is too early to tell just how good or bad these are. We have a very deep minor league system right now, it is just deep in mediocrity but it is deep in prospects that should make the majors, they just aren't likely to be stars.
  5. Again to be fair pitching is the strength of the system right now and we just put 2 pitchers into the rotation. Pitching has been a huge issue in the past but it seems like they have identified it and moved in the right direction. We have 3 self drafted pitchers in the rotation and another 2 or 3 that look like they will be major league quality in the high minors. It was really the Jack Z draft classes that completely lacked pitching talent. I don't really blame them that much since again they were aiming at rebuilding the fan base and the easiest way to do that is with big bats.
  6. Not the majority, every single one of them. Prospects are a crapshoot. Also a lot of great pitchers are a product of their park more than being great. Weaver would not be an ace if he had signed with Milwaukee. Weaver has a career 3.82 ERA on the road and has built his ace status almost completely on his park. He'd still be a good pitcher but he would be more Gallardo and less of a true ace. The team has failed at drafting pitching to be sure but this kind of study is going to show every team as bad at drafting. That 2001 line is just laughable, yeah we really missed out on Aaron Heilman!
  7. I don't think the two are connected though. If they had taken a slower approach with the prospects we still would have had the same competitive window. We would have taken longer to get attendance and it arguably could have delayed new ownership and to me the entire approach was aimed directly at boosting attendance to get the team sold. The entire reason we pushed all of that first wave of prospects was to rebuild the fan base and show that we could support 2M+ attendance year in and year out. The rest of it is really up to Mark A and how he wants the team built and all signs point to him pushing for a win now mentality even if it somewhat mortgages the future. If I'm going to blame Melvin for anything it is going to be the weak benches and the bullpen more than anything else. It is not understanding what type of marginal player really helps a team and not so much obtaining full time starting players.
  8. Ha! I just assumed Melvin brought his guys with him. That doesn't give me confidence for a new hire, however. To be fair Jack Z completely failed at drafting pitching. I can't walk away and say he did an amazing job of bringing in talent given the picks he had to work with. He didn't do a bad job mind you, just not amazing.
  9. We shopped Hart last year, nobody wanted him. The market got a guy who is slowing down too much to play RF and doesn't field 1B very well isn't as high as people think. All of this tank is pretty worthless though because nobody knows what the GM wanted to do but couldn't make happen. This isn't fantasy baseball, we just don't have enough information to have intelligent opinions on most of this gray area stuff being talked about.
  10. I can only assume you meant to say JERRY Hairston Jr... No I meant to say Scott Hairston with no Jr. A guy who can completely destroy one side pitching so is useful outside of just being a defensive replacement.
  11. This seems pretty biased. They tried very hard to trade for Greinke they just got out bid and they tried hard to sign Greinke and were in on Lohse as well and I'm willing to bet if the Brewers don't get that deal done at that price the Rangers do. I'm sure he picked the NL rather than the AL. They have blocked top prospects with marginal guys like Moreland now and in the past have made some really questionable trades of top end talent like the Chris Davis trade for a bullpen arm. The Brewers definitely took a win now approach to the team and it will hurt the long term. We have already felt the effects from bringing up the first wave of prospects a season too early and that has snowballed a bit lately. The big hit was when we didn't get a top pick from Sabathia or Sheets when we thought we would get one from each of them. That one single off season completely turned around the direction of the minor leagues.
  12. I don't disagree at all, but citing that 6 innings is useless. It really has nothing to do with him being DFA'd. They have an extremely deep bullpen and he was the last guy in line. Don't try to compare this to say Loe on the Brewers last year when we had worse relievers. The Mariners have a deep bullpen with a bunch of arms ready for the majors, it is a completely different situation.
  13. Right around now is the date where you can bring a guy up and add a year to their service time so I just keep praying that we are waiting for that date~. The 1B situation is just beyond odd at this point. When Hart might be back on May 1st and we were healthy everywhere else I got it, now it is just bad.
  14. We just disagree then. Bandehop is basically Loe but with luck on ERA last year. I have no faith at all in Kintzler or Figaro. Gonzalez showed the same skills last year as he did in the previous two seasons where he had a 4+ ERA. I think Axford is going to be erratic all year. Gorzelanny and Henderson are my two hopes for something usable in the bullpen.
  15. 6 HR in 6.2 innings. He'd fit right in with the Brewers pen. I'm half anticipating someone on here saying "small sample size" ! Didn't bother saying it since ti was so obvious. Judging someone off of 6 innings is just foolish.
  16. Actually, according to 2011, we had K-Rod for the 8th and Axford for the 9th in 2012. What about 2011 led you to believe our bullpen was going to be as bad as it was in 2012? Hindsight is 20/20 man, you can't possibly claim you saw the 2012 meltdown coming. We have been over this before and I dug up my thoughts on it then, I won't do it again. I did not think the bullpen would be good going into 2011, I thought one of Axford and KRod would be good and the rest of the bullpen looked like a bunch of crud. Going into 2012 I thought it would likely derail the team. I thought in 2011 we would have trouble getting into the 9th, I didn't expect the 9th would be the big issue. We had a weak bullpen last year, we have one of the worst in baseball this year. Everyone kept saying the bullpen was a strength going into 2011 and I was quite verbal that it wouldn't be.
  17. There is no good reason. If you identify yourself with a certain organization there is nothing at all wrong with saying we.
  18. There was no reason to think our bullpen would be good last year or this year.
  19. I'd say the complete opposite. Most of the best benches in baseball find a way to make use of retreads, depth guys or flawed prospects. Like the Yankees last year with Chavez and Jones or the As with all that depth. We have chosen pretty poorly for our depth guys though. You don't want a mediocre every day player, you want a player that you can slot in for certain jobs and get a lot of use of. A guy like Scott Hairston Jr.
  20. If only Brewers management was capable of building a deep bullpen then. I hear ya there. Most teams develop their own bullpen arms to go with a few FA retreads, we seem completely incapable of developing RP.
  21. Even if that were true and it certainly is not true, it still increases the number of injuries to one of the rarer commodities in the game and the league is going to protect that commodity. Francona said depending on what happens with the weather this weekend he might just have his pitchers not swing in their first interleague games because he doesn't want anyone hurt. I mean that pretty much says it all.
  22. They DFA'd him because of how incredibly deep their bullpen is not so much because of his performance on the season which obviously was bad as well.
  23. If that is your take from my post I don't think it is going to be worth discussing this with you. An AL pitcher gets under 10 PA a year, do you really think they should be up there hitting? Do you honestly feel they are prepared to the point that is actually safe? Your counterpoint has nothing at all to do with anything I said.
  24. The strike zone thing is a bit of a gray area. In tennis you just want to get the call right and there is no skill involved in anything. In baseball one of the most important skills for a C is framing pitches and adjusting to how the ump is calling the game and with a computer strike zone you remove that completely.
  25. I haven't had a huge issue with his bullpen usage this year other than Axford being used in that last one. I do have a huge issue with how awful the bullpen actually is. I said it before the season and I'm sticking to it, we have one of the worst bullpens in baseball and it is going to cripple our chances to make a playoff run. It is hard to make great choices when none of the options are any good. If you merged the Royals or the Nats or the Braves and our bullpen I'd keep maybe 1 of our RP and dump the rest. So there are teams out there whose 6th best RP is better than our 2nd best, it is just sad.
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