I love how you always mention Yuni's 2nd half where he hit .270 and had a .700 OPS but never mention how Greinke absolutely dominated in the 2nd half. 9-3 2.59 ERA 97.1 IP 102 Ks 1.161 WHIP is about as ACE like as you can get. Where was this "ACE" in the postseason? 23 hits, 15 runs, 12 ER, 1.620 WHIP in 23 IP. Greinke can thank Marcum for us ignoring his failures. Of those 9 second half wins, 6 of them came against the woeful Astros, Pirates, and Cubs and you won't find teams like that to play in October. I'd extend Greinke in a heartbeat for what he's worth. I never said he was a bad pitcher. But he's not worth $85-90 million and that's what he's going to want based on his 2009 Cy Young.. I think he's worth about what Ryan Dempster got from the Cubs prior to 2009. That was $52 million over 4 years. To me Greinke is on Dempster's level and that type of deal is livable for a team like the Brewers. Dempster was coming off an ace-quality year in 08, but he's never really been on that level. Do I have to invoke names like John Lackey, A J Burnett, Carlos Zambrano, Carl Pavano, to get my point across? All those guys had stretches of ACE quality pitching before signing big deals. They weren't ACES though and within 2 years, not able to be moved. My comment on Betancourt was that he was a starting quality major league SS. I wouldn't over pay him either. But he's not going to affect the future ability of this team to improve itself. Signing Greinke to a huge deal could. These aren't the Yankees, Red Sox or even the Cubs or Phillies. They need to build pitching staffs from their system ala Arizona, Tampa Bay and even SF. Sure if they are short on young arms, finding guys like Greinke and Marcum for the short term is a fine idea, but that's where it should end. Theres something called a small sample size. Look at what Justin Verlander did in the playoffs and get back to me. And yes I know were not a big market club but I look at how a team like the Braves built their rotation and I see us following a similar path with Greinke and Gallardo being the veterans at the top with a bunch of home grown guys who project as a #3 or higher filling out the rest of the rotation.