I'm a big advocate of the drive-till-death theory. Unless you are spending $400+ monthly on repairs, you're still better off. That said, my truck just became a death machine (the bed was separating from the cab, very entertaining), and I just got a 2008 Toyota Matrix. 30+ MPG, and still plenty big for me. Every seat folds flat and has a hard surface, so I can pile a ton in there if I need to. I'd think it's plenty big for a family with younger kids. Granted it doesn't have the heated leather seats, but that wasn't really a selling point in Houston. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif The Subaru is approved of by Consumer Reports, which had a great deal to do with my purchase. http://autos.yahoo.com/co..._and_worst_used_cars.html As far as trade in, I still snagged $1200 for my 97 ranger with 220,000 miles, the bed separating from the cab, tons of electrical issues (dead AC, cruise, interior lights), and rust problems. Car dealers are hurting like crazy, and that won't change anytime soon, so you can go in demanding the world. Eventually, somebody will give it to you. If you run into a significant repair bill (>$1000), then I'd probably think about making a move.