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  1. I don't watch a lick of NCAA sports other than wrestling, so I really have no opinion on any players. But I wouldn't surprised or opposed if they went with another edge rusher. You really can't have enough of them. If I were a betting man I would put money one of those first rounders being a TE though. If I still agree with Ted Thompson on anything, the draft really should be BPA all the time outside of QB.
  2. I would mostly agree then on it being pass/fail. I think it's entirely useless if a guy does it 23 times or 51, which I believe is the record (that guy did nothing in the NFL). When I say hand fighting out of a 3-pt stance, I meant just basically mimicking what an OL/DL does most of the time; his break off the line and first move/counter are generally most important, and those are made better by athleticism, not bench pressing. I'm biased here, but what would attract me to an OL/DL more than any weight test, honestly? If he had a wrestling background. No, I wouldn't draft a 160 #er to play line in the NFL, but if a prospect had that background it would make him very attractive to me. They would have such an advanced knowledge of getting people off balance and relying on things other than strength. There seems to be a really disproportionate number of them playing on the lines in the NFL which doesn't surprise me at all.
  3. Pushing barbells off your chest doesn't simulate linemen play though. I think anyone with experience in a combat sport can see this. I expect eye rolling because it's John Cena, but regardless, he has a point and he's got a ton of experience in strength training. A bench press really doesn't get you better at much besides bench pressing. I think if tomorrow you went to a wrestling room and drilled for someone doing nothing but hand fighting out of a 3-point stance, you would quickly realize that the first thing to get tired won't be your hands or chest, it's gonna be your legs. Or your lungs. The bench press doesn't really simulate any kind of athletic motion. That's why you've seen so many of these traditional exercises get replaced my functional workouts as sports med has advanced. The NFL is waaaay behind that with its combine drills. The only thing that would stand out to me is if a prospect really bombed the BP test. Yeah, if I had an OL prospect pump 225 10 times, I would be very concerned. Edit: Yeah, I know BA is a freak, but he's just a really extreme example of the point. I was in no way saying he was weak or something. Just that I doubt he has the biggest bench press in the UFC or did in the NCAA.
  4. Yeah, I just don't agree with that at all. The bench press is useless. You would we better off with a power clean test. What's more, the vast majority of an OL or DL's power is coming from his lower body, not his chest. But honestly, I find all of it useless, I think it's interesting HiandTight mentioned wrestling, as I used to wrestle as well in D3. I can't tell you the number of guys that couldn't bench 250 pounds but when it came time to wrestle they were strong as an ox. I look at someone like Ben Askren who is built like a credit card and probably never wastes his time bench pressing, but the guy is crushing watermelons with his hands and beating the crap out of guys that look like Mr. Universe. The combine is full of gym rats that do nothing in the NFL and vice versa. I think it exists solely to make scouts and executives think the draft is less of a crapshoot than it really is. I really don't think anything in a weight room could predict NFL success. If I had to put any stock in any of it, I would honestly put the interviews at the top of the list.
  5. I think the combine is for the most part useless. Beyond a gauge for how someone might perform under a lot of pressure, there is nothing about playing football you can actually take away from watching a guy run 40 yards straight ahead unobstructed, or my favorite, the number of times he can bench 225 pounds. The latter is truly worthless.
  6. I think the distinction to make with Cobb is that you realistically ARE paying him to get 700 yards. You're hoping to get a lot more than that from Crowder/Humphries.
  7. Overpaid is an incredibly vague and mostly useless term because it is relative. If they went above market price for two edge rushers and it helped Aaron Rodgers win 12 games again, did they really overpay? If the alternative was Nick Perry and Kyler Fackrell did you still overpay? "Overpaying" is only relevant if you can find something of fairly similar impact for less. If I'm stuck in the desert and one Uber comes by in 3 days and I pay him $1k to get me out of the desert, did I overpay?
  8. The guaranteed money is the only real number. I would guess it's possible that he gets $6mm per? But it seems high. I wouldn't touch him. If I'm playing the guessing game, I would say he gets a 2-year deal with the team getting an easy out after year 1, with around $4 million in guarantees. Vet minimum is probably around $700k for him, which I would agree is ridiculous. I can't compare him to those two guys. The guys the Packers signed haven't really had blue chip seasons yet either, but you overpay for potential because the superstars don't usually get to FA. I think it's clear those two WRs didn't get those deals to get 600 yards. If either one of those guys isn't a major weapon, it's a big disappointment.
  9. HHCD has been Darren Sharper with no supporting cast the last few seasons. He will get away with his hero ball in Chicago because there are other guys compensating for it. Before Sharper refined his game he was viewed almost the exact same way. A very talented player that gambled all the time and got burned plenty. He got so good at it later on that people stopped caring for the most part. Actually, Nick Collins was similar too early on with the Packers.
  10. We safety swapped with the Bears. Sorta.
  11. I agree, but think this whole thing smacks of being sponsor-driven. Which I do understand from their POV. The reality is you can't get approval from players and teams, because they're going to be the purists. If they want to move the sport forward, continue growing the base fo young fans etc., the game really does have to get faster. I personally love a 4-hour game that goes to almost midnight. But that's not the societal trend. I'm not sure this is going to speed up the game, but I accept why this stuff is happening.
  12. The mandatory DL stint is completely impossible. It is totally within reason that a guy faces one better and tweaks an arm for a couple of days. By requiring a DL stint you are encouraging players to play through an injury. The union would have a field day with that.
  13. I do wonder how enforceable the 3-batter minimum really is. What is stop you from coming out for "shoulder tightness." You can't enforce a mandatory DL stint or something You're telling me someone's forearm won't get "tweaked" in October at a really opportune time?
  14. It isn't that bad. When they start banning all slides and have a rule about hitting a defenseless baseball it'll be at that level.
  15. I assumed Lopez was as good as gone. Or if he is retained, Middleton is gone. I can't see all of those guys being kept around.
  16. Instant replay is the worst of the group and it's not close for me. To waste that much time and still get a bunch of calls wrong, it's pointless. Go back to the "charm" of human error. I don't care how many times my favorite team is screwed. It's the worst in the NFL but I'd throw a party if all of it disappeared tomorrow.
  17. Yeah, it still really surprised me. Good, unique type of player so it was hard to be too concerned, but it definitely caught me off guard. As far as Middleton, I think he's a guy where the positives are mutual if he stays in MKE. I don't think he can be better anywhere else and I think he's worth more to the Bucks than anyone.
  18. This isn't quite as big of a deal as it sounds. From my understanding, it doesn't carry over from inning to inning. So if your starter is in the 5th or 6th inning with 1 or 2 out, bases loaded and a power lefty up, you could still bring in your loogy for an out or two. Significant, but still quite a few scenarios where a guy is facing a 1-2 batters. Same would be the case if Jeffress is on his 5th or 6th hitter and you remove him for a specialist.
  19. I hate most of it. But I understand the need for the game to survive profitably and as a televised production.
  20. Middleton is going to get huge money from the Bucks or somebody else. I thought the Bledsoe extension was a little odd with Middleton unsigned.
  21. Just a guess but if Nelson is cut I think he retires. I did just see this which is interesting: "Nelson was largely overlooked last season as well, but after a slow start in Oakland, he actually came on strong at the end of last season. He had 38 catches over the last five weeks of 2018, third most in the NFL over that time."
  22. Skins forced to cut Zach Brown. Yikes, that is a pretty top level player to be out there. Who knows if we were one of the teams trying to work out a trade.
  23. I gave up trying to figure this stuff out long ago.
  24. Yeah, I think that is pretty fair.
  25. The rushers they got yesterday bump the reasonable expectation to being in contention in the NFC again IMO. They have needed guys like that for so long, it's really depressing to think about. They had an old but still really productive Peppers, but prior to that you probably have to go back to young Clay or a year of Cullen Jenkins for a comp. Anyone saying they overpaid is nuts. Overpaying is the name of the FA game. If you wanted edge players under 30 that have proven they can play that is what they cost. The residual effect is also huge. Blake Martinez can be the really good supplementary player he probably should be rather than the star you're trying to force him to be. Dean Lowry and Fackrell also seem like they'll get a boost from adding that kind of talent. And they haven't even drafted anyone yet. Just two huge additions. Hopefully they stay healthy.
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