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Lions aren't out of the water here but it feels like every good title run has a gut check where you have to overcome some things and it sure looks like they've managed to figure something out defensively. I am pulling for the Vikes but this would be impressive.
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Game 17: Bears @ Packers - Sunday, Jan. 5th 12:00 PM
OldSchoolSnapper replied to duewizard's topic in Other Sports
I thought for sure they'd get a touchdown. -
Willis is a 25-year-old former 3rd round pick whose prior stop was in Dumpsterville. In a much better situation, he has looked pretty good. I don't think you can definitively say he's "just a backup." I don't know where he'll go from here, but he just hasn't shown any drop off when Love leave games, this season anyway.
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I am not sure what the separation between Love and Willis really is this season, based on what we have seen. I would for sure take Love in the long term, I think, but this year they have looked awfully similar. That, combined with the Packers not looking so great when the starters were in, and that both games ended in a FG attempt...I am saying that I don't really think it's a safe assumption. Bears played like they really wanted to win this game. So did Dallas. But it never stops anyone from making these locked in guarantees.
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Oh, ok!
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Game 17: Bears @ Packers - Sunday, Jan. 5th 12:00 PM
OldSchoolSnapper replied to duewizard's topic in Other Sports
Cowboys lost so didn't cost GB anything other than dignity, lol. Two weeks ago I liked us as a sleeper for a run. I am looking at us now as much more of the "we made the playoff this year!" variety. -
You were saying? The Cowboys almost pulled it off too.
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Game 17: Bears @ Packers - Sunday, Jan. 5th 12:00 PM
OldSchoolSnapper replied to duewizard's topic in Other Sports
The Packers are a fingertip from 0-6 against their division. -
Game 17: Bears @ Packers - Sunday, Jan. 5th 12:00 PM
OldSchoolSnapper replied to duewizard's topic in Other Sports
Ah. Who was it that told me "No. The Packers cannot lose to the Bears"? -
They were 3-6 though at one point. And 6-8. I think most people hoped they would ride the wave of the last month of the season and playoffs into this one. They look like about the same team from the end of last season, not much better. And the reason for a lot of last season's struggles were any time Aaron Jones was out. Was this a realistic expectation? Maybe not, but I think that was the dream. Love has suffered from being better than people thought he would be faster than they had expected. So the lumps that come with development and starting haven't been as permissible. I think he is fine, I think the team is fine. Just not as good as we all had dreamed. Love probably played this season the way people thought he would play last season in the best case scenario.
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That is about what they are. The offense is really good. That's another 12ish win team without some of the injuries they've had this year. Plus Baker is that prototype kind of journeyman almost great not never quite great QB that throws for 500 yards on the Packers.
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To me, makes GB slipping to 7 even less important because I would have liked going to LA but not really going to Tampa. I don't think that offense is a good matchup for GB and I just don't like the Packers playing in Florida. I also think McVay wants to play indoors as often as possible. They are well documented hating the cold/elements. If they drop to 4 and win, they stay indoors with Minn/Det in the 2nd round - assuming 6 and 7 also lose which is fairly safe.
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Last I checked Gary had a 3% win rate on pass rushes which was down from the teens his previous two seasons, but it was a long time ago I looked at it. I don't think PFF is the bible some people think it is but Gary should not be in the Pro Bowl. He was average this season. Jacobs and McKinney are fine. Maybe an offensive lineman based on the season Jacobs had and the protection Love enjoyed, but OL get in on name recognition and we don't have it.
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It's a toss up but I also think Minnesota is going to take it. Better defensive team. Detroit is much more susceptible to a one and done than people seem to think. They are banged up. Their defense is just not good. They are going to have their hands full if they're traveling to Tampa.
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This field is better than that one, the Packers were better defensively, but this is classic revisionism. You're just going back with the benefit of knowing the results and making sweeping statements about it. It's always very difficult to win the Super Bowl. Point is, nobody will remember this being some juggernaut NFC if say, Philly and Minnesota lose in the 1st round. The game with Atlanta was decided by the Tramon INT to end the half. It completely changed the trajectory of a game that should have been 21-17 at half. That Atlanta team was good, but it was a ball control offense and going down 2 touchdowns against our defense was insurmountable. The Packers barely escaped the first round. If that final ball to Cooper was thrown a couple feet higher, it's a touchdown. That said, the Packers were probably the best team in the NFC but they evolved as the year went on, particularly on offense, had a lot of brutal losses and bad injuries. This team just doesn't have the impact players that team did on either side of the ball. There's no Greg Jennings, there's no Woodson, no Matthews.
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1 in 25 is a lot greater than 1 in 1,000.
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The loser of MN/DET falls to 5 and is visiting Tampa most likely, a tough team DET lost to at full strength. They will likely have a battle just to advance out of the Wild Card. If they win, they're still quite possibly visiting LA in the divisional. The winner would play us, as you said. I don't really see an "easy" path for anybody, looking at the quality of Washington's losses, there just isn't really a chump in this year's NFC field. I think people get way too wrapped up in the seedings. I have seen it go sideways so many times, including for the Packers. I remember jumping for joy in 07 when NYG knocked off Dallas and yelling "We're going to the Super Bowl!" I didn't take SF seriously at all in '21. Packers are simply not a favorite, it is what it is. I don't think 5, 6 or 7 they were seeded would have made a real difference there.
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Jaire officially on the shelf. Not a big surprise, but I guess the good news is that it was actually his knee and not a personality thing. That is probably a death knell for the Packers run, but at least they've already been playing without him.
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And what would you say 25% is?
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Not sure comparing the Packers to the Bears is like comparing the Packers to the Eagles. This place gets so incredibly reactionary. The odds of any one team making the Super Bowl aren't very good. But I am not even talking Super Bowl. I'm talking winning a first round game, which I'd put somewhere around 25-35%. I don't have the feeling of say 2020 when we had to play SF and it was incredibly obvious we couldn't hold their jock. The Packers can beat any of these teams, realistically. It's not that long of a shot.
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I don't think there's a significant gap. I think the Packers can beat anyone they draw. They haven't actually proven they can beat one of these top teams, but I still think they can. They have just got to stop this first half Houdini offense crap. I'd go into the Eagles matchup not really expecting a win, but I would be optimistic and expect it to be competitive.
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To be clear I am not advocating his firing and believe is a good coach, I felt the same about Budenholzer, but sometimes lack of results just dictate a change. I do think it is a bit odd that "well the Vikings are better" is some kind of excuse for him and the Packers. That is kind of a big part of his job to ensure that doesn't happen.
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Long enough that he isn't getting canned this year no matter what, sure. Almost zero chance would next year either. After that, I'd think yes, no substantial achievement with 2 franchise QBs. Nine years is a very long time. After 4 years with Love those whispers are definitely going to be there.
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Thanks for pointing out that it's a "fact." I'm not offering a hot take. I'm pointing out that the entire thing is a bit exaggerated and blown out of proportion when the entire league is young. No team has an average age of like 30, and you're talking about .1 and .3 year average age gaps between teams. The other side of "multiple gos" is that the Packers are already good enough now to win championships and they were last year too, and when you're as close as they are, an established pass rusher or actual standout receiver has the potential to make a big difference. "Identifying your core" is great, except it becomes a bit of a problem if you sign a guy to a 4 year rookie deal and he doesn't contribute until year 4 when you now have to pay him. Any criticism of the Packers doesn't have to mean they suck and the whole thing should be blown up. But they have not gotten enough out a litany of early defensive draft picks.
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I just don't believe this is Detroit at its best, but I also don't think they're going to win the NFC. Just too banged up. Taking emotion out of it, Minnesota seems most balanced and firing on all cylinders. I have a mental block believing Darnold is the real deal but they are getting hard to deny at this point. I will cling to the dream they choke it away. Minnesota vs. Detroit is very possibly the divisional game as well. It is going to be a very entertaining NFC playoffs.
