1 of them, the other has been on ignore for years. Furthermore I was referring to He's a very solid and cheap pitcher but two freak hamstring injuries have convinced everyone he's an injury prone fluke. Which might be what 1 or 2 posters have said, but is not the consensus opinion. I've elaborated on this numerous times earlier in the thread. His age, stuff, small window of team control remaining, and lack of innings pitched makes him expendable... not because of what he is, but because of what he isn't. I don't mind posting a detailed explanation once or even twice, but I'm not wasting time typing up those long posts essentially explaining the same opinion for a 3rd time only to have it continually misrepresented by those who won't take the time to read such a post and skim it at best. Estrada is someone you walk away from, not someone you build around, and the idea should never be to build around 30 somethings. We also have to find a way to get Thornburg and Nelson experience in the rotation before we absolutely have to rely on them in 2016. There's a plethora of reasons to move on from Estrada beyond "2 freak hamstring" injuries, multiple posters have covered the reasons why but the same throw away lines about a lack of respect keep coming back around. That actually suggests that those who post such things are aren't actually reading and taking the time to understand the counter argument, not the other way around. Do you even read before you write? First of all, you did not post anything about Estrada in this thread like you stated. Secondly, we were specifically talking about the potential trade of Estrada for Moustakas - which evidently you mixed up with some other thread, but still felt the need to admonish us for not reading your other posts in other threads on your anti-Estrada rantings.