Regarding gambling, you can't have the public thinking the games aren't on the up-and-up. Otherwise what exactly are you asking them to buy? That's why point shaving is such a big deal whenever it comes up in college basketball. If a player or manager has ties to gambling, then the integrity of their play could be perceived as compromised. And do you mean Joe Niekro? There's nothing on Phil. Ya, I guess it was Joe. But the point still is cheating is cheating. You can't overlook it in some cases and condemn it in the other. In the case of Joe scuffing and Gaylord Perry greasing up a ball, I would put that as more serious than throwing games for profit. The rule they broke was put in place because Ray Chapman died after getting hit in the head.