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Pommy for 2ip tonight, saving Hader for tomorrow

Nah, I'm not going to let history be re-written. Yost used 4-5 relievers when he could have used 2-3 all the time. If he had a reliever pitch a quick clean inning leading up to the 7th or 8th, it didn't matter how little rest the designated 7th or 8th inning guys had, they were coming in. Two stark differences between Yost and Counsell that make the latter so much more effective are Craig's deployment of relievers for multiple innings, and using his best guys when ahead, with his bottom guys deployed when behind. He also handles Hader in a much more effective way then Yost ever would have. Yost would burn guys one inning at a time and use them damn near everyday, even when trailing. You're not going 162-0 and no reliever is making 162 appearances, so you have to pick your spots. Yost didn't, and by year end the pen was shot. Counsell is one of the first to really utilize relievers in multiple innings. So can't really compare them. As for him over-using the pen, I don't get it. The huge complaint when he was our manager was that he often didn't bring people in and went to lesser relievers. Then in the post-game presser we'd find out our 8th inning guy was unavailable due to throwing too many pitches in games and in the pen recently. The Brewers under Maddux were the first team I heard of that tracked all pitches thrown, including bullpen pitches. Generally if they got you up, they tried to get you into the game. Hands down, our worst manager in recent history was Ken Macha. He lost his teams almost immediately, and his teams were huge underperformers. Yost did great at his job, which was to stand by the kids, let them play, and hold them accountable by teaching the game the right way. He was a great manager for a team with young, talented players just breaking into MLB. For a contending team with different aspirations, he may not have been good. But he was the first manager since Scrap Iron that I personally liked and wanted to see find success.

If we keep Grandal, I just hope we don't bat him 2nd. I like his bat control and working of the count, but his 15 GIDP have hurt at times.

I think a stooge could have easily managed that KC bullpen to a World Series. Wade Davis might have had one of the greatest seasons a reliever has ever had. That bullpen was the equivalent of giving a legally blind squirrel lasik surgery which then enables it to locate nuts. Yost simply wore bullpens down to the point the Brewers faded every August/September. The KC pen was Yost-proof. He also didn’t have a genius GM that constantly churns the 24th and 25th spots in order to maximize his bullpen performance

Looking at the title of this thread, I’m resigned to the idea that the Brewers likely won’t re-sign either

I loved Yost’s honesty. He managed better than most in the game at the time because he and Maddux tracked more than most (like pitches in the bullpen). Macha was supposed to be good, but he was a train-wreck. Those are the only times I’ve ever given up on a Brewers team, and one year I did so in May. Lopes is hard to evaluate, as he had no pitching.

Brewers are now -2 run differential. Could finish positive at this pace.

I had another winning day today, but the Brewers game really hurt. Bet a nice amount on Brewers -300. But had them at -140 to cover -1.5. That 3-run error really stung. Still won on them, but not what it would have been.

it's been an amazing month. Riding the Brewers on 1st 5 innings, game, and--occasionally--run line bets. Also doing well the Packers and a few other chosen games each week.

His record was sealed. He has no record that needs to be expunged. It disappointed at the court's expiration. He should be suing over the release of records. Heimlich and his family faced the basic Prisoner's Dilemma. He faced a vengeful soon to be ex-sister in law. Despite no evidence, the risk of facing serious long-term consequeneces (or possibly clearing his name) in a trial vs rather short-term pain with a clear future. It's an obvious one that many people take. Last night I posted two additional times, but I deleted them after I realized I was going up against someone that sees the world as black and white, instead of many shades of gray. trwi7, many people are seen as guilt until proven innocent. That's the situation Heimlich was up against when he had a vindictive future ex-sister. The family denies he was ever at home when his mom watched his niece. He was always busy with sports. I think this should have gone to trial as there's too much he said/she said to ever get a logical jury to convict. But the allegations would have been made public and his life--and his family's--would have been ruined.

He definitely does not. This is an argument that no one is going to win, and should probably be avoided. Obviously there's a lot of info to come out yet, but I would be very surprised if Vasquez's career is not over. Why? He took a plea deal on a lawyer's advice. There is no evidence he did anything wrong. He was a kid that psychologists and judges agreed that he seemed to have not done anything. The only story claiming he did something quite likely was fabricated by his ex-sister in law. But based on hearsay, the lawyer advised he take a plea deal to avoid all chances of prison or juvenile detention, along with to minimize family tension/drama.

Heimlich deserves a chance. This is very troubling for Vazquez. He probably is done unless the case has more to it than we think

I’d like to be careful with him....but I want to make the playoffs. I’d give him Monday off and hope we get through Tuesday or Wed without needing him. Unfortunately Pomeranz is the only other guy we trust last. Peralta is bad this year, Claudio inconsistent, Guerra hit/homer prone, etc. I wish Nelson were getting results, as he’s be an option

In no particular order, I’m seeing: Woodruff Nelson (full regular offseason under his belt) Gio Houser Suter Lyles is looking like he deserves a look. I’d still like to see Peralta and Burnes open in AAA after their rough seasons. It will be huge having Knebel back. I think Davies and Anderson get traded, maybe Guerra as well,

Clancy also has Suter catching on days he isn't pitching.

We need Hiura and Woodruff back ASAP. Maybe we'll see some Austin in the OF?

amazing how bad the injury bug has been this year. Need Braun healthy and I'm guessing Thames or Austin could see some RF

wow. just wow. Braun needs to catch fire

Anyone ready for some Webbs?

with so few games left, I don't anticipate Grandal sitting out many games at catcher. I think they want him and Thames

is anyone happier than Jake Gatewood that the playoffs reset your stats? I'm looking for him to have a big year next year without a focus on rehabbing

Good to see, Chacín threw well tonight

Brew Crew 92> hard to follow your odd typing

I think the Brewers had to declare the players much earlier than was announced. Remember, teams do a sort of bidding option where they get priority positions. The priority players are supposed to play most days (I think it was 4-5 out of 6 days per week). Remember when the Brewers declared SS their priority position? Hall and Hardy didn't end up playing, so they wound up sending a teenaged Escobar. The Brewers likely hoped they could make it, but announced they were withdrawing at the last minute.