Ha, I read this all, thanks a long way back, mentioning I called a Villar/Ortiz value for Schoop. Im not even familar with Carmona, and his loss doesnt bother me. We got away from the frustrating player Villar presents. (I've liked him but he lacked some common sense) Ortiz was an easy sell high. One of the 40man crunches forthcoming who is a SP that can't achieve over 100IP it seems in 4years. To talented to put in the bullpen, but 2years away at beston his pace to reach a modest SP innings limit. That should have been year 1 this season, and iit's no way happening this year. Maintains the 40man flexibility vs usage on a Minor Leaguer stuck in the mud. Schoop is an improvement on depth and potential. Could trade him in the offseason, but this clearly puts to rest any Hiura call ups this season. All in all, we kept the guys we really didnt want to part with and Im glad. No mortgage the future, it is still brightly shining.