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  1. Adames was not very good the last two years. OBPs around .300. 756 and 717 OPS, those are not great numbers and I don't think many here would describe him as consistent. Of course they're not exactly the same, Adames has a bit more power. But the general idea of both are SSs who are good at D, but only OK (not great/elite) at offense is generally true. They're also hitting FA at the same age. Its about as good of a comp as you can get. On the baseball reference similar players list, Swanson is #4. Similar Batters through 27 Rico Petrocelli (954.7) Miguel Tejada (948.1) Juan Uribe (942.2) Dansby Swanson (936.1)
  2. Because almost all big deals to guys for their aging seasons turn out to be complete duds unless they're truly elite players like Betts/Freeman. It's really that simple. I mean just in that other thread we had that talk on Swanson, they are very similar players going into FA in the 750-770 OPS ballpark with good D, and in year two of that deal it already looks rough. But yea of course there is a number that could work, but you and others just said some pretty high ones that just aren't feasible here. Think the Padres are loving that Xander deal right now? But to what the person said about focusing on buying out years for other guys instead. We all like Adames and would generally want him on the team the next 2-3 years if money wasn't factor, just not at 25 mil per year and for another 3-4 years after too. Lets say during that good first season he had with us that they'd found a way to get him to sign through the 26 or 27 season at what the price would've been way back then, we'd be sitting pretty well right now then looking at his next few years at say 8-12 mil per year.
  3. Then don't do it. But that's the OPs point, put money in that area to get it to a number that does work, so if you say 60 doesn't, getting to 75 maybe does, or whatever example you want to do. Either way, its more cost efficient than paying guys 25 mil at age 35. There's others here who are bigger experts than me on doing all this math on their years/arby etc, but remember he's playing for like nothing the next 3 years gambling his health until he's in 30s before he can get that payday. So you don't have to give much for those first few years. Then its arby and a couple more years. Hey, you were just frustrated hanging in AAA at age 25 doing nothing, you've had 2 good months, here's 50 mil right now and you never have to worry about money no matter what happens. Or gamble year by year on your play and health, only to hit FA at a bad age where teams won't want to pay you since you came up late. That's the basic discussion, up to him. Just us brewers fans saw a few examples of guys in his similar situation who should've took a contract like that, Villar, Arcia, Keston, etc. And to a larger scale degree, Woodruff and Nelson
  4. I assumed they'd pull back on spending a bit and/or look for a better spot than him. For example, Bichette after next year, though he's struggling this year
  5. Generally I agree with you. But, the idea that poster proposed would be buying those very cheaply since you're doing it so early, might even be team options. Its not for 25 mil per year. The whole contract is probably under 60 mil.
  6. I probably wouldn't' even do the 5/130 discussed but at least I'd consider since 5 years isn't crazy long. If you guys ae thinking he's going to drastically top that given the last posts, then yea its a not even close. Let the Angels do it and then wonder why they're winning 74 games. I guess one thing to note is the league is very strong at SS right now, I won't to say the best production ever, so his market might not be so hot. Random best guess of who could be a good fit for him is SF. They've been looking to spend big money and keep striking out, but did do the shorter terms ones late last offseason. Hope Willy gets paid and does well, but being a HR based player he'd get hurt by that park.
  7. I would pass on giving him a contract in that Swanson world. If he doesn't like what he sees out there and takes our 1 year arby (I think that's how it works) I'm down for that but I'll pass on the ages low to mid 30s years for 25+ mil per year when even in his good year right now is at .769 ops and was in the low 700s last year. Remember he already turns 29 in a few weeks. Or say he decides he needs a Hoskins style prove it deal, sure give that a try here so its minimal risk to us. Love all the positives you say too but a team with our budget has to spend that money more wisely. There is two guys on the team now that can step in and play very good SS D for league min. Don't get me wrong though, if they did do some kind of deal like that I'll cross my fingers and hope for the best that he can stay above 750 ops with good D for at least the next 3-4 years before we eat it the last 2-3 years.
  8. Well my post was about hitting, as it said. Either way, this overall was about bad contracts, You don't need to pay 25 mil per year for good D and just ok offense. And that just ok offense was in his prime, think what it will be in his mid 30s. And its already starting in the 2nd year of the contract. And then also how will that great D be holding up as he gets to 32/33 years old.
  9. "right now", which is what I said, he has a 220/290 and 640 ops. Last year in that stellar year you spoke of he had a whopping .744 OPS. In his good years with ATL he's generally been a .760 area guy. He's signed for 5 more years. for 25-28 mil per year
  10. Yup, the obvious move is that. I'd guess their issue on pulling the trigger right now is just depth. They probably don't guess that Black will do drastically better right now this year but if you do this move you'll lose Bauers to waivers (assume, I didn't double check his options). So if Black flops or gets hurt you then don't have someone. Right now, you have both to handle the grind and injuries of a long season.
  11. Nitpick, but I'd certainly call Swanson's contract bad. I'd have said it since it was signed and its even moreso now. He has roughly 5/140 left on his deal for his 31-35 year olds seasons. Even when he's right he's just an average/ok hitter. Right now, you're paying 25 mil a year for what you can get out of a AAAA player for league min.
  12. Problem with trading for a 1B/DH is that a portion of the days he is only replacing Contreras at DH. Which is actually likely a downgrade. And Sanchez has been competent. However, come playoffs there's no need to DH Contreras so then it is your max value in the lineup. Still I'd say most 'bang for your buck' in a trade would be outfield. Unless RF continues to do better like it has lately and Perkins manages to keep it up then its not a drastic need either, but I wouldn't be banking on both of those things to hold the next 4 months. And keep in mind that OF could also be part of the same DH rotation improvement the 1B/DH would be.
  13. Good posts. Yea the majority of informed people like many of us here could do just fine on the game decision, batting orders, etc. Strategies, long term planning, garnering respect, leadership skills, and most importantly people management of large egos (and large paychecks) are not things we all for sure could do. CC seemed good on all those things. And as someone else said, once someone has that level of competency, respect, professionalism down there really isn't much one can do to be well above the next guy. As we're seeing in MKE now, and in generally probably seeing with Cubs now. Ross seemed a competent/fine manager on a mediocre team and they had a fine mediocre season. They more or less have the same team now and continue to be mediocre with another competent manager. If someone else did all that stuff behind the scenes that most of don't have the knowledge or ability to do, then had us write the lineup and choose when to switch pitchers we'd probably be able to do just fine. After all, almost all these thousands of decisions fans often freak out and overreact to on a game by game basis are things that really could go either way and no one is a 'moron' for doing it. Sometimes things just don't work out.
  14. Good posts. Yea I think CC is a good manager. But the driving force behind how MKE has been doing this the last chunk of years is whatever is going on with the pitching lab stuff. CC seemed to keep a good culture through mass turnover every year, managed the bullpen well, etc but when it comes down to it the key to all this is they turn over pitching a ton every year and keep pumping out results. I'm sure CC had a hand in that but he's not the main person for it, its a system. I would assume he's trying to bring as much of that to the Cubs as he can, but stuff like that doesn't happen in a few months. Plus, he's not the 'expert' so to speak on whatever MKE has been doing.
  15. Reminds me of this one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzy_Favor_Hamilton . If you didn't hear this when it came out, former famous Olympian from WI ends up living a double life as a high end escort later in life.
  16. Yea I'm not a soccer hater, but the way their jerseys are is off to me too. Giant brand logo across the chest and then a small crest of some kind on the upper left for the team. So you see jersey and you're like oh its the Expedia or Turkish Air? What is the team? Talking to Brits they seem to know it all so it doesn't matter to them, but I think it would help brand a team much better and especially to appeal tot he giant US market if you could actually identify who the team is. Or if you buy a jersey of the team it says Manchester so you know what it is, other people know what you're wearing etc rather than seemingly wearing a shirt in support Marathon Oil. Basically they should flip the giant chest one with the small shoulder one, boom done. Sure it costs them some money but the top league teams are unlimited in money
  17. Yea Hudson has been lights out. Milner has been solid for years now and he'd just gone 1-2-3 the inning before. The main discussion would come around taking Tobias out after 6 considering our BP usage this year. I didn't go back and look at Hudson/Milners game logs but I'm guessing they had them pegged as guys that could use an inning today to not be laid off toooo long. Still, why not one more out of Myers first.
  18. Could be nice break for the BP the last week or so too. Off last Thurs, Blowout last Fri with long start. Blowout Sun. 7 inning start Mon. Possible long start today. Day off tomorrow. They could use it
  19. yup. So maybe the 'temper back' could be to make the bases back to the old ways and maybe the throw limit alone would've been enough help. But obviously I'm nitpicking I could say the same on the pitch clock stuff. Love it and its a huge positive. But after how drastic a difference it made I thought maybe adding a second back on could've been an adjustment, instead they reduced it even more this year
  20. Yea with how easy it is to steal 2nd now bunting a guy over to 2nd should never be happening. On a sidenote, its surprising adding just a bit to each base could make this drastic of an increase in SBs easiness. Makes one think teams were probably being a bit too cautious prior to the rule change, like they listened to moneyball tooo much. Also could maybe temper back the new rules a little bit as its become a bit too easy imo. But hey, with how ridiculous pitching is these days any help to O is fine by me, so its not like I'm clamoring for it either.
  21. Yes that's fair, missing their best hitter and pitcher they're not what they were. And of course they're not performing right now while dealing with other injuries too. But their roster is still top notch, would be very surprising if they don't get humming by end of year. And with all those issues, we're still only a few games ahead of them. We have all our injuries too but they have a lot of positive regression to the mean coming from guys. We're currently seeing the negative regression on guys like Contreras/Yeli.
  22. Don't see much that works at the deadline. Offseason though McMahon could make sense. Adames gone, one of Turang/Ortiz goes to short and he takes the freed up spot. 29 year old with with like 3/44ish left on his deal after this year. He has better numbers road than home this year, but career there is the expected dip. Not the splashiest of moves but he's a solid player and that's not a crazy contract for MKE to handle. Would probably be able to bank on him much better than the Winker/Mccutcheon/Bradley guys
  23. The quirk is that a team trading for him wouldn't want to give back MLB level starting pitching since they're also a playoff team. So essentially you'd be working out a 3 way trade. Gets pretty complicated at that point. You should be able to get a mediocre Tyler Anderson level guy without giving up any significant prospects/Adames. I'd assume for a 1/3 year rental the return wouldn't be good enough for us to trade him, but they have to do their due diligence and listen. The idea of starting Dunn/Andruw for the stretch is not good at all, so you're possibly looking to trade for someone to fill that spot and it becomes a wash. Basically robbing peter to pay paul thing
  24. He's always been a good player when healthy. I wouldn't put too much stock in 30 PAs right off the DL in a terrible environment. He does K too much but that's baseball these days.
  25. A CWS guy you could probably get for much cheaper is Kopech. Obviously that is for good reason as he's been rough the last couple years, but his profile is the exactly type of thing MKE has gotten ahold of the last 5ish years and been able to mold into a good pitcher much better than their previous teams did. Has started in the past so could start stretching him back out or focus on tweaking him into another reliever with 100 mph and big breaking pitch Just saying, it wouldn't surprise me at all that if this guy was on the Brewers he'd be killing it rather than floundering. Seems he has one more year of Arby left, only being paid 3 mil this year and is struggling so cost to acquire should be minimal.
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