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Think this is pretty reasonable. We could certainly do worse..

Would not hate this move at all. Doubt he's looking at any crazy length/AAV, yet he is only 28. Maybe 3/$24 mil?

Really seems like a guy Stearns would like, I bet we give him a look.

I love the bat and would think he is a 30-35 HR, 100+ RBI bat in Miller Park but where do you play him? That D is supposed to be pretty rough. If the organization under Stearns has shown anything its a willingness to forego defense for big bats. We'd find a spot for him

No shot we hand out a contract like that. It is what it is

The good news is we have Stearns at the helm. If we trade Hader to the Yankees I think we can rest assured we will be getting quite a bit of value. That being said, I'd much rather trade with the Dodgers or even Mets if they're up for it, as I see their chips being much more helpful for our current window and the future.

Why not just liquidate the franchise while you're at it.

I did say it was too much. But also, this is more an example of how useless the trade simulator is than anything.

This is the type of trade suggestion I expected to see throughout this thread. Likely a bit too much for Hader, but in my mind, a lot closer than anything the Yankees would be offering.

Yeah I would love Jasson Dominguez. I think some people limit themselves to only wanting MLB ready talent back, which I think is a mistake. Even if you don't want to wait on someone like Dominguez, he could pretty easily be one of the more premiere trade chips in baseball at this time next year. Dude is well into the Top 100 prospects in baseball and hasn't swung a bat in an actual league yet. If he starts hitting he will fly up boards so fast. He could be the next phenom. Maybe not, but no one in entire system is anywhere near the same league as far as tools/potential. We've already discussed that Yelich will almost be impossible to re-sign given our market limitations. He's a generational talent and we have him locked up for 3 more years. Why would we trade the best RP in baseball, who is cheap and under control alongside Yelich for a 16 year old kid who wont sniff the majors until that window is up? Of course there is no need to mention the fact that every Yankees prospect is hyped beyond belief by the media. I understand he has the chance to be an absolute monster, but why give up Hader for the CHANCE that he becomes that player, and if he DOES become that player, he won't even be ready to play alongside our current monster? We are talking about completely different windows. By the time this literal high schooler would be ready to join the squad, our team would likely have been completely overhauled. It makes no sense. Now, a package centered around a player like Gavin Lux, who is what Dominguez could be, and is major league ready to compete during our window, you would have my attention.

Yes its clear the Yankees would like to add Hader. The problem is they don't have the pieces to match Hader's value without giving up a piece of their super team. I don't think thats true. If the Yankees came out and offered us a package of frazier, andujar Deivi Garcia you wouldn't do it? Those are all pieces that they can afford to get rid of, and they are all pieces that could have a huge impact for us next year. If I were Stearns, that wouldn't even register on my radar as a trade for the best RP in baseball

I could see it happening. Unfortunately, I also cannot see us competing for the playoffs with this roster. We struggled on offense last year, can you imagine the struggles with this lineup?

Yes its clear the Yankees would like to add Hader. The problem is they don't have the pieces to match Hader's value without giving up a piece of their super team.

This is the typical blind homerism that you can find among any fanbase. Which makes it even more insane to me the trades suggested here for Hader. I've seen some outrageous valuations of our own players before, but never this massive undervaluing of a legitimate star, who is cheap and under control for years. Imagine suggesting trading the best RP in baseball for Miguel Andujar and some middling prospects? We know Stearns values him incredibly high, as he should. So why are people, (brewers fans nonetheless!) proposing we trade him for garbage? I truly don't understand it.

Plenty of places to spend a lot of money, ie Donaldson or Ryu. Just don't talk yourself into those guys either because its highly, highly unlikely to happen.

I think you're right on track here with regard to the level of pitching. Not sure about specific guys though.

Like this signging for tht price quite a bit

I agree that equally sharing t.v. revenues would solve the problem. No need to make this political (socialism vs capitalism), as both agencies (NFL& MLB) operate under government-granted monopolies. A small group of owners in each agency (not a market) gets to decide the rules. T.V. money is really the deciding factor, and the NFL for whatever reason has decided to sign the deal as a league with each team getting an equal share, while MLB has decided to let each team negotiate their own t.v. deals, or even own their own network. I'm sure there is a historical reason for this, and it's not because the NFL is run by socialists while the MLB is run by capitalists. As a fan of a small-market team, I much prefer the league-wide t.v. deal, but I can't say baseball is wrong. If New York, Chicago, L.A., etc are on t.v. more people probably tune in than when a small market team is on. If the Brewers sign Cole, it makes some people are happy and thousands of jerseys are sold. If NY signs Cole, a lot more people are happy and hundreds of thousands of jerseys are sold. MLB has decided that is best for their league. Big market fans aren't upset that they have an unfair advantage. They don't really think about it, and if they do, they think they deserve it and say the small market fans are whiners. Really, that's probably true as a nation. Badger fans probably don't feel they have an unfair advantage when they take on a small, private school, and many probably feel they deserve the advantage. If the fans were to revolt and stop watching, things might change, but I doubt Yankee or Cub fans are ever going to stop watching their team because the Brewers and Blue Jays are at a financial disadvantage. Good post, just thought using Toronto as an example of a team at a financial disadvantage was weird.

I would not do it. If you want someone, pay Rendon $35 million per year for 7 years instead of giving away prospects for a guy on a similar deal. Bingo (despite the fact that we wouldn't have the prospect capital in the first place)

Stearns and co. will be looking at guys of this level, especially now that the two top FA pitchers have gone.

Agreed - I'd much rather get a young, controlled, major-league ready player who can help fill 3B or SP than a prospect. Andujar would be nice. Urshella will be 28 already next year, and only walked 25 times in 476 PA's. The Brewers might be able to both get a potential TOR and fill other holes if they take Price from Boston. Boston really wants to get under the cap, and not many teams can or will take on Price's contract. Michael Chavis could fill 3B nicely, and I think the Brewers could extract more than that. David Price is getting paid $32 million (32 MILLION DOLLARS) over the next three years. You want to take that on for the pleasure of adding Michael Chavis? Michael Chavis?????????????????? Am I taking crazy pills?

Gonna take more than that.

Seems very likely we were in for him, and at that price I can see why. Too bad he didn't end up here.

I don’t think two Josh Hader’s would get you Rafael Devers at this point. That's exactly my point.

More laughable garbage. Its Devers and Chavis+ if you're looking for an actual trade for the best RP in baseball.