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Luis Oviedo was a Rule 5 pick off the Cleveland roster this past December. He was real good in the 2018 season in the real low minors & up/ down in 2019 in low A. His game logs in 2019 are the definition of Jekyll & Hyde Guy is nowhere ready for the majors but that is the thing with the Rule 5 draft: guys get a chance with another club & if they are decent it doesn't stunt the growth/ development.

Update time for the games completed thru 7/25/21 Top 10 Rank …… Franchise …… …….W …… ......L …… …..Pct 1 ….. Tampa Bay Rays…… 187 …… 93 …… 0.6679 2 ….. New York Yankees…… 183 …… 99 …… 0.6489 3 ….. Kansas City Royals……160 …… 121 …… 0.5694 4 ….. Boston Red Sox…… 160 …… 122 …… 0.5674 5 ….. Seattle Mariners…… 160 …… 123 …… 0.5654 6 ….. Pittsburgh Pirates…… 159 …… 123 …… 0.5638 7 ….. Minnesota Twins…… 157 …… 130 …… 0.5470 8 ….. San Francisco Giants……155 …… 130 …… 0.5439 9 ….. Los Angeles Dodgers……154 …… 131 …… 0.5404 10 ….. Texas Rangers…… 149 …… 135 …… 0.5246 bottom 5 26 ….. Arizona Diamondbacks…… 119 …… 163 …… 0.4220 27 ….. New York Mets…… 117 …… 165 …… 0.4149 28 ….. Chicago White Sox…… 117 …… 168 …… 0.4105 29 ….. St. Louis Cardinals…… 117 …… 169 …… 0.4091 30 ….. Washington Nationals…… 106 …… 179 …… 0.3719 Others in NL Central 13 ….. Milwaukee Brewers……145 …… 139 …… 0.5106 18 ….. Cincinnati Reds…… 137 …… 146 …… 0.4841 25 ….. Chicago Cubs…… 123 …… 156 …… 0.4409 Notes & Tidbits Most games played: 288 by Atlanta Least games played: 279 by Chicago Cubs Top 13 teams have records at or above .500 Best run differential: +484 by NY Yankees. A total of 10 teams have a run differential at +100 or better. Two teams at +400 or better. Worst run differential: -358 by St. Louis Cardinals. A total of 11 teams have a differential at -100 or worse. Two teams at -350 or worse. Best Record with negative run differential: #11 Cleveland 148-135 and a run diff of -18 Worst Record with a positive run differential: #17 Detroit 139-144 and a run diff of +15 Best Team WHIP: #1 Tampa 1.154 (only team under 1.26) Worst Team WHIP: #29 St. Louis 1.57 (only team over 1.52) MKE run diff is +81 and has a WHIP of 1.386

--------------------------------------------------------- Less than 24 hours later & Morosi is walking back his tweet (posted above) Jon Morosi @jonmorosi Update on José Ramírez: At this point, there aren’t active talks between Cleveland and other @MLB clubs on a Ramírez trade. The asking price is extremely high due to the contractual control mentioned here

As the CLE person/ fan on here, I should chime in. Perfectly fine with Guardians. I disliked 'Spiders' due to history (different franchise, was in the NL, went 20-134 in its final season). The bridge (& 2 of the 4 statues) are literally a 3 minute walk from the entrance gate located behind home plate. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7B5WSzXIAA_cw6?format=jpg&name=900x900 Here are some more tweets from the team today.. Cleveland Indians @Indians We've been planting these seeds since 1989. Smirking face https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7BNvPiXMAA3Ool?format=jpg&name=small The opening picture of the movie Major League. ---------------------------------------------- Why Guardians? Our fans spoke and we listened.

Update time for the games completed thru 7/18/21 Top 10 Rank …… Franchise …… …….W …… ......L …… …..Pct 1 ….. Tampa Bay Rays…… 168 …… 88 …… 0.6563 2 ….. New York Yankees…… 169 …… 89 …… 0.6550 3 ….. Kansas City Royals……148 …… 107 …… 0.5804 4 ….. Pittsburgh Pirates…… 148 …… 110 …… 0.5736 5 ….. Boston Red Sox…… 146 …… 111 …… 0.5681 6 ….. Seattle Mariners…… 146 …… 112 …… 0.5659 7 ….. San Francisco Giants…145 …… 115 …… 0.5577 8 ….. Minnesota Twins…… 142 …… 121 …… 0.5399 9 ….. Baltimore Orioles…… 136 …… 120 …… 0.5313 10 ….. Los Angeles Dodgers…138 …… 122 …… 0.5308 Bottom 5 26 ….. Arizona Dbacks …… 112 …… 147 …… 0.4324 27 ….. New York Mets…… 104 …… 154 …… 0.4031 28 ….. St. Louis Cardinals…… 105 …… 157 …… 0.4008 29 ….. Chicago White Sox…… 104 …… 156 …… 0.4000 30 ….. Washington Nats…… 102 …… 159 …… 0.3908 Others in NL Central 14 ….. Cincinnati Reds…… 130 …… 128 …… 0.5039 15 ….. Milwaukee Brewers……130 …… 129 …… 0.5019 24 ….. Chicago Cubs …… 114 …… 142 …… 0.4453 Notes & Tidbits Most games played: 263 by Minnesota & Atlanta Least games played: 255 by Kansas City Top 15 teams have records at or above .500 Best run differential: +447 by NY Yankees. A total of 9 teams have a run differential at +100 or better. Two teams at +400 or better. Worst run differential: -358 by St. Louis Cardinals. A total of 11 teams have a differential at -100 or worse. Five teams at -200 or worse. Best Record with negative run differential: #17 Miami 128-133 and a run diff of -140 Worst Record with a positive run differential: #16 Toronto 126-130 and a run diff of +34 Best Team WHIP: #1 Tampa 1.156 (only team under 1.25) Worst Team WHIP: #28 St. Louis 1.591 (only team over 1.53) MKE run diff is +50 and has a WHIP of 1.400

Just a point of reference for Brewer Fans: From Zack Meisel (of The Athletic) reported this morning: The Indians preference is to keep (Jose) Ramírez, perhaps even extend him. Payroll shouldn’t inhibit that; there’s not a single player on the roster owed a nickel beyond this season (other than arbitration and club contract options), and a new minority investor should eventually pump some more cash into the operation. Ramírez would welcome the chance to negotiate a long-term deal, according to sources, and it seems like something the two sides could explore during the offseason or spring training. ---------------------- To take this further, other info (not from Meisel): there have also been extension talks with Shane Bieber.. CLE ownership is seeing both players as 'face of franchise' types and important on and off the field as a new team name is coming for the club..

Oh but that is not all... - Cleveland drafted 19 pitchers out of its 21 selections, & 18 of the 19 pitchers were college players. - The Dodgers didn't draft a position player until the 16th round and selected 17 pitchers out of 19 picks. The first two of those were high school pitchers, but the rest were college or junior college selections. - The Giants selected pitchers with their first nine selections, with eight of those coming from the collegiate ranks. - Tampa Bay selected 13 pitchers out of 21 selections.. Not sure about the other organizations but CLE has been position player heavy in its last few International signing classes. Going pitching heavy in this draft helps to balance that out..

I guess Mike Hegan wasn't available. Just FYI: Mike Hegan is sitting around heaven retelling stories with Davey Nelson... Probably from their time together doing CLE Indians broadcasts

Update time for the games completed thru 7/11/21 Remember: this only looks at the 4 full season affiliates for each ballclub top 10 Rank …… Franchise …… …….W …… ......L …… …..Pct 1 ….. New York Yankees…… 154 …… 79 …… 0.6609 2 ….. Tampa Bay Rays…… 147 …… 86 …… 0.6309 3 ….. Seattle Mariners…… 137 …… 96 …… 0.5880 4 ….. KC Royals….....… 135 …… 95 …… 0.5870 5 ….. Pittsburgh Pirates…… 133 …… 101 …… 0.5684 6 ….. Boston Red Sox…… 133 …… 102 …… 0.5660 7 ….. Baltimore Orioles…… 127 …… 105 …… 0.5474 8 ….. San Fran Giants…… 128 …… 108 …… 0.5424 9 ….. Minnesota Twins…… 129 …… 110 …… 0.5397 10 ….. LA Dodgers……... 126 …… 109 …… 0.5362 bottom 5 26 ….. Chicago White Sox…… 101 …… 135 …… 0.4280 27 ….. Arizona Dbacks…… 100 …… 135 …… 0.4255 28 ….. Washington Nats…… 92 …… 144 …… 0.3898 29 ….. New York Mets…… 91 …… 143 …… 0.3889 30 ….. St. Louis Cardinals…… 90 …… 148 …… 0.3782 Others in NL Central 16 ….. Milwaukee Brewers……118 …… 118 …… 0.5000 25 ….. Chicago Cubs…… 100 …… 131 …… 0.4329 Notes & Tidbits Most games played: 239 by Minnesota & Atlanta Least games played: 230 by Kansas City Top 16 teams have records at or above .500 Best run differential: +417 by NY Yankees. A total of 9 teams have a run differential at +100 or better. Four teams at +200 or better. Worst run differential: -361 by St. Louis Cardinals. A total of 11 teams have a differential at -100 or worse. Four teams at -200 or worse. Best Record with negative run differential: #15 Miami 119-118 and a run diff of -133 Worst Record with a positive run differential: #20 Houston 110-125 and a run diff of +1 Best Team WHIP: #2 Tampa 1.167 (only team under 1.25) Worst Team WHIP: #30 St. Louis 1.621 (only team over 1.53) MKE run diff is +40 and has a WHIP of 1.404

Just something to make people take a moment: In the Brewers top 11 picks, 4 were pitchers (3 RH, 1 LH; all 4 are college/ JUCO arms) In the LA Angels top 10 picks, all 10 were pitchers (8 RH, 2 LH; all 10 are college arms) In the Indians top 11 picks, 10 were pitchers (6 RH, 4 LH; all are college arms)

FYI - Wright State Univ is near Dayton, OH.. So Tyler Black is cold weather player 2x over (being from Canada & now Wright State)

If CLE continues to fall out of the race for a post-season spot, an additional name to consider trading for: RHP Nick Wittgren Under most radars & is more effective then people realize. https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... ni01.shtml He could solidify the pen in the 6th/ 7th innings and could also step in if needed late in the game should one of the regular back-end arms be unavailable on a given day..

Update time for the games completed thru 7/4/21 top 10 Rank …… Franchise …… …….W …… ......L …… …..Pct 1 ….. New York Yankees ……139 …… 69 …… 0.6683 2 ….. Tampa Bay Rays …… 131 …… 78 …… 0.6268 3 ….. KC Royals …… 123 …… 84 …… 0.5942 4 ….. Seattle Mariners …… 120 …… 89 …… 0.5742 5 ….. Pittsburgh Pirates …… 122 …… 91 …… 0.5728 6 ….. San Fran Giants…… 121 …… 91 …… 0.5708 7 ….. Baltimore Orioles…… 119 …… 90 …… 0.5694 8 ….. Boston Red Sox…… 118 …… 94 …… 0.5566 9 ….. LA Dodgers…… 114 …… 98 …… 0.5377 10 ….. Texas Rangers…… 114 …… 99 …… 0.5352 Bottom 5 26 ….. Chicago Cubs…… 88 …… 121 …… 0.4211 27 ….. Chicago White Sox…… 89 …… 123 …… 0.4198 28 ….. St. Louis Cardinals…… 83 …… 133 …… 0.3843 29 ….. Washington Nats…… 81 …… 131 …… 0.3821 30 ….. New York Mets…… 79 …… 131 …… 0.3762 Others in NL Central 15 ….. Cincinnati Reds …… 107 …… 106 …… 0.5023 16 ….. Milwaukee Brewers …… 104 …… 107 …… 0.4929 Notes & Other tidbits: Most games played: 216 by St. Louis Least games played: 207 by Kansas City Top 15 teams have records at or above .500 Best run differential: +364 by NY Yankees. A total of 8 teams have a run differential at +100 or better. Three teams at +200 or better (NY Yankees, Tampa Bay at 297 & Kansas City at 223). Worst run differential: -333 by St. Louis Cardinals. A total of 11 teams have a differential at -100 or worse. Three teams at -200 or worse (St. Louis, Washington at -296 and Chicago White Sox at -215). Best Record with negative run differential: #12 Miami 111-102 and a run diff of -114 Worst Record with a positive run differential: #19 Houston 100-111 and a run diff of +2 Best Team WHIP: #2 Tampa 1.161 (only team under 1.26) Worst Team WHIP: #28 St. Louis 1.625 (only team over 1.51) MKE run diff is +50 and has a WHIP of 1.41

Update time for the games completed thru 6/27/21 top 10 Rank …… Franchise …… …….W …… ......L …..Pct 1 ….. New York Yankees…… 125 …… 61 …… 0.6720 2 ….. Tampa Bay Rays…… 115 …… 70 …… 0.6216 3 ….. KC Royals….....… 110 …… 72 …… 0.6044 4 ….. Pittsburgh Pirates…… 112 …… 78 …… 0.5895 5 ….. San Fran Giants…… 109 …… 79 …… 0.5798 6 ….. Baltimore Orioles…… 104 …… 80 …… 0.5652 7 ….. Seattle Mariners…… 103 …… 82 …… 0.5568 8 ….. Boston Red Sox…… 105 …… 86 …… 0.5497 9 ….. Minnesota Twins…… 103 …… 88 …… 0.5393 10 ….. Texas Rangers…… 101 …… 87 …… 0.5372 bottom 5 26 ….. Colorado Rockies…… 82 …… 108 …… 0.4316 27 ….. Chicago Cubs…… 74 …… 111 …… 0.4000 28 ….. Wash Nationals…… 74 …… 115 …… 0.3915 29 ….. New York Mets…… 69 …… 117 …… 0.3710 30 ….. St. Louis Cardinals…… 70 …… 121 …… 0.3665 Others in NL Central 14 ….. Milwaukee Brewers……95 …… 91 …… 0.5108 18 ….. Cincinnati Reds…… 91 …… 98 …… 0.4815 Most games played: 191 by Boston, Minnesota, Philadelphia & St. Louis Least games played: 182 by Kansas City Top 16 teams have records at or above .500 Best run differential: +334 by NY Yankees. A total of 8 teams have a run differential at +100 or better. Two teams at +200 or better (NY Yankees and Tampa Bay at 265). Worst run differential: -309 by St. Louis Cardinals. A total of 9 teams have a differential at -100 or worse. Two teams at -200 or worse (St. Louis & Washington at -231). Best Record with negative run differential: #13 Miami 99-91 and a run diff of -99 Worst Record with a positive run differential: #18 Cincinnati 91-98 and a run diff of +15 Best Team WHIP: #2 Tampa 1.149 (only team under 1.285) Worst Team WHIP: #30 St. Louis 1.629 (only team over 1.52) MKE run diff is +34 and has a WHIP of 1.41

Just FYI ... I had a significant change in my work/ personal life this past week. I will continue to post the record updates but it won't be until Monday evenings moving forward.. Thanks for understanding..

Update time for the games completed thru 6/20/21 top 10 Rank …… Franchise …… …….W …… ......L …… …..Pct 1 ….. New York Yankees …… 108 …… 55 …… 0.6626 2 ….. Kansas City Royals …… 96 …… 61 …… 0.6115 3 ….. Tampa Bay Rays …… 98 …… 64 …… 0.6049 4 ….. Pittsburgh Pirates …… 98 …… 68 …… 0.5904 5 ….. Boston Red Sox …… 98 …… 69 …… 0.5868 6 ….. Baltimore Orioles …… 90 …… 70 …… 0.5625 7 ….. Seattle Mariners …… 90 …… 71 …… 0.5590 8 ….. San Fran Giants …… 91 …… 72 …… 0.5583 9 ….. Miami Marlins …… 91 …… 75 …… 0.5482 10 ….. Cleveland Indians …… 88 …… 75 …… 0.5399 bottom 5 26 ….. Colorado Rockies …… 69 …… 95 …… 0.4207 27 ….. Chicago Cubs …… 64 …… 97 …… 0.3975 28 ….. Wash Nationals …… 63 …… 102 …… 0.3818 29 ….. St. Louis Cardinals ……62 …… 105 …… 0.3713 30 ….. New York Mets …… 59 …… 103 …… 0.3642 Others in NL Central 15 ….. Milwaukee Brewers ……84 …… 79 …… 0.5153 18 ….. Cincinnati Reds …… 79 …… 86 …… 0.4788 Most games played: 167 by Boston, Minnesota, Philadelphia & St. Louis Least games played: 157 by Kansas City Top 16 teams have records at or above .500 Best run differential: +252 by NY Yankees. A total of 7 teams have a run differential at +100 or better. Two teams at +200 or better (NY Yankees and Tampa Bay at 218). Worst run differential: -277 by St. Louis Cardinals. A total of 8 teams have a differential at -100 or worse. Two teams at -200 or worse (St. Louis & Washington at -214). Best Record with negative run differential: #9 Miami 91-75 and a run diff of -53 Worst Record with a positive run differential: #18 Cincinnati 79-86 and a run diff of +5 Best Team WHIP: #3 Tampa 1.146 (only team under 1.275) Worst Team WHIP: #29 St. Louis 1.628 (only team over 1.50) MKE run diff is +51 and has a WHIP of 1.394

I can't imagine that Ramirez is actually available especially considering the Indians are 10 games over 500. If Ramirez was actually made available I think there would be quite the bidding war for him. Thank you @adambr2 for those acknowledging those points (current record/ bid war if he was made available). The point being missed is the coming roster crunch in CLE after the season. The CLE FO has to figure out a way to add 8 to 10 of its own talented prospects (of 20+) before the R5 deadline. Sending away JRam in any deal for a multiple player package of talent only makes that roster crunch worse. If they are still in the mix as the deadline gets closer, it is more likely CLE takes a lower prospect (ie non-top 100 overall / non-top 15 prospect in its own system) to acquire a rental player or 2.

It will not be enough... It (a trade of JRam) is not happening in 2021.. Better to focus energies on getting Makil Franco from Baltimore or another team that is buried & perhaps looking to sell at this point (Twins/ DBacks/ Tigers/ Rangers) to get reinforcements for different spots...

Update time for the games completed thru 6/13/21 top 10 Rank …… Franchise …… …….W …… ......L …… …..Pct 1 ….. New York Yankees…… 91 …… 48 …… 0.6547 2 ….. Tampa Bay Rays…… 85 …… 55 …… 0.6071 3 ….. Kansas City Royals…… 82 …… 54 …… 0.6029 4 ….. Baltimore Orioles…… 81 …… 55 …… 0.5956 5 ….. Pittsburgh Pirates…… 83 …… 59 …… 0.5845 6 ….. San Fran Giants…… 79 …… 61 …… 0.5643 7 ….. Seattle Mariners…… 79 …… 61 …… 0.5643 8 ….. Boston Red Sox…… 81 …… 63 …… 0.5625 9 ….. Texas Rangers…… 78 …… 62 …… 0.5571 10 ….. Miami Marlins…… 77 …… 66 …… 0.5385 Bottom 5 26 ….. Chicago White Sox…… 59 …… 82 …… 0.4184 27 ….. Chicago Cubs…… 56 …… 82 …… 0.4058 28 ….. Washington Nationals…… 55 …… 86 …… 0.3901 29 ….. New York Mets…… 52 …… 88 …… 0.3714 30 ….. St. Louis Cardinals…… 53 …… 90 …… 0.3706 Others in NL Central 12 ….. Milwaukee Brewers…… 76 …… 66 …… 0.5352 18 ….. Cincinnati Reds…… 67 …… 75 …… 0.4718 Most games played: 144 by Boston, Minnesota & Atlanta Least games played: 136 by Kansas City & Baltimore Top 16 teams have records at or above .500 Best run differential: +222 by NY Yankees. A total of 5 teams have a run differential at +100 or better Worst run differential: -245 by St. Louis Cardinals. A total of 6 teams have a differential at -100 or worse. Best Record with negative run differential: #10 Miami 77-66 and a run diff of -54 Worst Record with a positive run differential: #18 Cincinnati 67-75 and a run diff of +12 Best Team WHIP: #2 Tampa 1.144 (only team under 1.25) Worst Team WHIP: #30 St. Louis 1.638 (only team over 1.49) MKE run diff is +65 and has a WHIP of 1.391

Just keep him away from the Phillies/ Bryce Harper. Next time the teams meet is in early Sept. 2021

Update time for the games completed thru 6/6/21 Top 10 Rank …… Franchise …… …….W …… ......L …… …..Pct 1 ….. New York Yankees…… 76 …… 39 …… 0.6609 2 ….. Kansas City Royals……71 …… 43 …… 0.6228 3 ….. Baltimore Orioles…… 70 …… 44 …… 0.6140 4 ….. Tampa Bay Rays…… 69 …… 49 …… 0.5847 5 ….. Texas Rangers…… 67 …… 49 …… 0.5776 6 ….. San Fran Giants…… 67 …… 51 …… 0.5678 7 ….. Pittsburgh Pirates…… 67 …… 51 …… 0.5678 8 ….. Miami Marlins…… 68 …… 52 …… 0.5667 9 ….. Milwaukee Brewers……66 …… 52 …… 0.5593 10 ….. Seattle Mariners…… 64 …… 51 …… 0.5565 Bottom 5 26 ….. Chicago White Sox…… 50 …… 67 …… 0.4274 27 ….. Los Angeles Angels……47 …… 68 …… 0.4087 28 ….. New York Mets…… 46 …… 70 …… 0.3966 29 ….. Washington Nationals 43 …… 75 …… 0.3644 30 ….. St. Louis Cardinals…… 40 …… 79 …… 0.3361 Others in NL Central 18 ….. Cincinnati Reds…… 57 …… 61 …… 0.4831 23 ….. Chicago Cubs…… 49 …… 65 …… 0.4298 Most games played: 120 by Miami, Boston, Minnesota & Atlanta Least games played: 113 by Houston Top 15 teams have records at or above .500 Best run differential: +207 by NY Yankees. A total of 5 teams have a run differential at +100 or better Worst run differential: -242 by St. Louis Cardinals. A total of 5 teams have a differential at -100 or worse. Best Record with negative run differential: #8 Miami 68-52 and a run diff of -5 Worst Record with a positive run differential: #18 Cincinnati 57-61 and a run diff of +26 Best Team WHIP: #4 Tampa 1.158 (only team under 1.21) Worst Team WHIP: #30 St. Louis 1.657 (only team over 1.47)

Using Baseball Trade Values, Mancini has a value of 20.7 For reference the same place has these values for Brewer players: E Small 6.0 C. Ray 2.1 Ashby 8.9 B. Turang 26.6 G. Mitchell 21.8 I doubt there is a trade match unless it was Mitchell for Mancini ( & its unlikely Brewer fans want to do that deal)...

I can't imagine the Brewers shelling out $28M ($13M for this year and $15M for 2022) for Seager who is hitting .222/.271. At his age he isn't likely to get any better. Cron is doing great, but I don't know what the Twinkies would want for him. Twinkies would take whatever you want to give since they aren't giving up anything. Cron is playing for Colorado this year (after Detroit in 2020) Cron only played for the Twinkies in 2019..

Barring the Sounds forgetting how to pitch again, this game is over. 6 homers for the Sounds tonight. Now leads 13-9 in the bottom of the 9th.

Not a good half inning in the field for the Sounds. Sounds entered bottom of 3rd leading 7-0. Exit half inning trailing 9-7 3 Sounds pitchers allowed 9 runs on 3 hits & 6 walks. 2 Errors didn't help. Its now 9-7 in the bottom of the 4th inning