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Well yeah. If that happened the day's net gain would be a half a game.

Brewers, just don't be 3 games out at the end of the day. That's all.

No. Right now the Cubs are up two games. If the Brewers win tonight and the Cubs lose tonight the Brewers will pick up a game and be a game back.

Go Cards go. Sweep the Cubs. If I have to reassess that and worry about them after that series I might. But the Cards would need a minor miracle to win the division.

I'm with you on the catching position, but I still think the Brewers will bring Estrada back, unfortunately. If the Brewers don't bring back Jenkins (even release him and bring him back at a reduced price) and there is no outside replacement, I'd rather platoon Gabe Gross out there with someone. Joe Dillon, free agent, even Mench maybe. I want no part of Tony Gwynn starting in center.

I was going to say the same thing giffted. I can't believe he used an unassisted triple play (on a ball hit right to him, no less) as a reason why Tulo should be ROY.

Yeah I was looking at BP's odds. Really the only ones who are out of it are the Braves, Mariners and probably Rockies.

Simply a stunning article from SI's John Donovan. Note the fact that this was posted TODAY, the same day that the Brewers enter play tied for first place in their division. Plus there's just the cheezy fake obituary, which is annoying in itself. --------------- In the old days of journalism, before blogging and podcasting and video streaming on that there Internet thingy, one of the first assignments of a cub reporter was the obituary desk. There, the young professional would learn the tricks of getting out the facts, and only the facts, in a tight, simple, no-frills manner. Glamorous, no. Essential, yes. So, in a nod to the old school way of doing things, we give you seven quick baseball obits (more to come, as September rolls along): The Detroit Tigers, who recaptured the heart of a once-proud baseball town in 2006 with an unexpected trip to the World Series, passed away this week. The cause of death was attributed to exhaustion. Once thought to be the hands-down best team in baseball this year, the Tigers suffered though one stretch this summer, from July 19 to Aug. 10, during which their starters notched only one win. Several key pitchers, including starter Kenny Rogers and reliever Joel Zumaya, were injured. Slugger Gary Sheffield missed a big chunk of the season. Earlier this week, the Tigers slipped to a season-low seven games behind the American League Central leaders. The Tigers are survived by thousands of leftover Little Caesars pizzas (they will be re-sold next season at Comerica Park) and several crumpled cigarette packages in Jim Leyland's office. Services are pending. The Seattle Mariners, surprise contenders in the American League West, died this week of a prolonged losing streak. The Mariners, just a game out of first place as recently as Aug. 25, amazed fans and pundits for much of 2007 with their ability to compete despite a fallow pitching staff and a midseason switch of managers. Another 200-hit season by Ichiro Suzuki and the emergence of closer J.J. Putz kept the Mariners close to the rival Angels, but the M's, as they were affectionately known, finally succumbed after 11 losses in their past 12 games, including two earlier this week to the Yankees. They are survived by Mr. Suzuki's new contract, which will keep him in Seattle through the 2012 season. The Philadelphia Phillies, upstart challengers in the National League East, passed away earlier this week. The cause of death was attributed to wild bouts of extreme incompetence and an incontinent bullpen. The Phillies, famously proclaimed as the team to beat this preseason by their own shortstop, Jimmy Rollins, stumbled early in the year but seemed destined to fulfill Mr. Rollins' boasts when they swept the Mets last week in four games. But four losses in their past five games -- including a heartbreaking 9-8 defeat on Wednesday to the Braves in which the 'pen allowed seven runs in the last two innings -- was too much for the Phils to overcome. They are survived, still, by an infamously angry fan populace. The Atlanta Braves, one-time ruler of the NL East, died last week. Cause of death was listed as rotational malfunction. Paced by co-aces John Smoltz and Tim Hudson for the first four months of the season, the Braves were the talk of baseball in early August after their deadline deal for slugger Mark Teixeira. Despite the best efforts of Mssrs. Smoltz, Hudson and Teixeira, though, the Braves could not find reliable starters for the final three spots in their rotation. A sweep by the Mets last week, in Atlanta's Turner Field, was the final straw. Survivors include an unfazed home fan base and general manager John Schuerholz, who isn't going anywhere. The Los Angeles Dodgers, once-proud franchise and once sole baseball owners of the city of L.A., passed away after a stretch late in July and into August in which they went 4-15, going from two games ahead in the NL West to 6 1/2 games behind. The cause of death was a lack of pop, a badly decimated rotation and a couple of offseason signings gone south. The Dodgers are survived by several of their young players, who are expected to lead the team back to an NL West title as early as next year, and general manager Ned Colletti, who is still looking for help for this season. The Colorado Rockies, a young, aggressive NL West team with an up-and-coming pitching staff and a load of still-raw hitters, passed away recently. Though the Rocks put on a strong fight in the final stages of the 2007 season -- they are 34-25 since June 29, paced for most of the year by phenomenal under-30 starters Jeff Francis and Aaron Cook -- an eight-game deficit, in an increasingly strong NL West, was simply too much to overcome. The Rockies are survived by their humidor. The Milwaukee Brewers, longtime leaders in the NL Central, apparently died late last month after six losses in seven games knocked them a season-high 2 ½ games out of first place. Apparent cause of death has been listed as a lack of starting support, coupled with lineup inefficiencies and a possible constriction of the throat, especially when any glovework is involved. The Brewers, who haven't posted a winning season since 1982, led the Central by 8 ½ games in late June. Without injured ace Ben Sheets, though, and with a string of ineffective starts by Chris Capuano and Jeff Suppan, the Brewers succumbed to the hard-charging Cubs in August. As of press time, the Brewers remain officially tied for first place in the Central, so the league has yet to release an exact time of death.

I said the same thing. What more does a guy have to do to earn a call-up?

With an eighth-inning two-run lead, runners on first and second and two out, here are people I would rather see pitching to Hunter Pence than Greg Aquino: Francisco Freaking Cordero Brian Shouse Matt Wise Chris Spurling Steve Bray (still somehow in AAA with a 1.62 ERA and 1.02 WHIP in 77.2 innings) Manny Parra with a broken thumb Corey Koskie Danny Almonte Haley Joel Osment Chewbacca Me

Milwaukee's secret weapon. The Cubs don't stand a chance.

Come on, ennder. 25 extra innings would have "probably blown up his shoulder?" I'm usually for seeing on the bright side of things, but that seems like a stretch. He's not even going to make 175 IP, so I don't see how you can pretend losing Sheets is a good thing.

Estrada is disgustingly slow. Wow.

Capuano's been bad, but who is there to start besides him?

Maybe this well teach Prince that he needs to keep his cool. That was just dumb, and it hurt the team.

I don't think they'll offer Mench arbitration, and I think at least one of Capuano/Vargas will be gone as well.

Yeah I was screaming in the IGT when Yost had Weeks bunt in the ninth. Didn't make sense at all, especially with Weeks at the plate.

Meh. Consider me not concerned.

I don't like how that author made it seem like it didn't matter that Soriano is out, but I definitely agree that the Brewers losing Sheets is a tougher blow than the Cubs losing Soriano.

I hope he pulled the muscle right off the bone.

Hall4President's got it right. The no-hitter was supposed to be a changing point. The blown saves were. Now this scuffle. The Brewers aren't going to play better or worse because this happened. As far as the quote about the team not waiting for Ned Yost... I agree with those saying that the player was probably just saying that they had to start winning themselves.

They "lost" Pierzynski? I wish I could lose something I was only going to have for one year and end up with Francisco Liriano, Joe Nathan and Boof Bonser, all for long-term. I know you mentioned the Pierzynski was good, but that may be one of the most lop-sided trades in the history of the league. The Chuck Knoblauch deal paid dividends also. Jacque Jones has stunk since the Twins let him go, Shannon Stewart is always hurt, and none of those other guys are any good.

I'm hoping this isn't for Prince. He looked like he was hurting.

Ok so how come the Jenkins thread here is locked if there is no IGT?

Oh my God. I am exhausted. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif