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  1. It doesn't really matter. The point is Renfroe has always been about a .300/.490 hitter. The last two off-seasons he was let go/traded rather than be paid what he had earned. Now after having made 7.5 million and due for another raise likely to be at least 10 million, will the Brewers buck that trend and decide he's now worth it? Only time will tell, but I won't hold my breath.
  2. Their pitching (bullpen and injuries) is 8th of 15 in terms of earned runs allowed. Their hitting is 6th in runs scored. I don't think adding a hitter suddenly puts them in the playoffs. Rather, they probably shouldn't have traded their closer ostensibly for prospects, and the bullpen arms they did acquire for depth ended up all being colossal busts.
  3. I suppose it depends on how you define "best hitter". True he has the highest slugging percentage on the team. However, Renfroe has an OBP of .318, amongst the bottom half of the roster. He is also middle of the pack amongst oWAR. Now consider Joc Pederson is playing on a one year 6 million dollar contract and has outperformed Renfroe in avg, obp, and slugging, that's a bargain. Renfroe at 10 million dollars isn't a bargain, it's market price. Like I said, they're last amongst the teams in the NL actively trying to compete, where do they get better? Maybe Renfroe is back next year, but they may be able to get substantially similar production for less, and use their resources to try to improve other areas of the club for a cumulative gain.
  4. Sure, but Renfroe has been with 4 organizations in his first five years of service time, the Brewers acquired him in essentially a salary dump for prospects with Boston, and Renfroe went out an put up his career line. I get it the Brewers offense sucked and he looks good amongst their other Punch and Judy hitters, but Renfroe is textbook mediocre slugger, and I wouldn’t be surprised a bit if they felt they could more effectively use the 10 million he’ll cost in ‘23.
  5. The ‘22 Brewers will finish last in the NL amongst the teams actively trying to compete. The above scenario basically would tow the line, with a chance to maybe be better if they’re lucky. There’s nothing wrong with that, but my point is why waste a year spinning their wheels? They need to have a plan for the future, they would win enough in the short run with Burnes, Peralta, Williams, Yelich, etc. to remain relevant and could start laying pierces for a serious contender in ‘24. I’d exercise Wong’s option, but I expect the Brewers to let him go. Renfroe is an .800ish OPS corner OFer who will make 10 million dollars next year. Not necessarily a bargain and not necessarily a hitter they can’t live without which leads me to believe he should be non-tendered especially with the glut of minor league outfielders the Brewers have in AAA.
  6. The question is where do they get better in the short run? They had some injuries to the starting pitching but most of their hitters performed to their career norms and it just wasn’t good enough. The bullpen was outside of Hader, Williams and Suter, and in need of a rebuild. Calling up a bunch of rookie hitters sounds great, and maybe they catch lightning in a bottle on one, but Mitchell played every bit like rookie (tantalizing moments coupled with kids of strike outs) which is the more likely scenario. Perhaps it’s time to take a step back next year, shuffle the deck, and look to build a contender for ‘24. Look to trade everyone they can not named Burnes, Adames and Williams. Break in their rookies, add some veteran stop gaps and hope for the best in ‘23.
  7. Don’t look now but over his last 10 2/3 innings, Hader has given up: 5 H, 2 BB, 13K and one earned run. This trade probably didnt make a difference in the Division race, but given the recent late inning failures, it absolutely will end up costing them the 3rd wild card spot.
  8. Marlins are a true enigma opponent, they've been awful against the good teams in the NL (22-53 vs. ATL, NYM, PHI, MIL, STL, LA and SD). Yet they've also managed to have three separate winning streaks of 5, 6 and 7 games respectively.
  9. Wonder if they bring Burnes and Woodruff back on short rest, to avoid the the 3-4 bullpen games they’ll have between now and the end
  10. That’s the narrative right: 3 game lead traded their all star closer for prospects and missed the playoffs
  11. With only 3 guaranteed salaries in 2023 (Yelich, Peralta, Ashby) and at least 31 million dollars in expiring contracts (Cain, Cutch and Narvaez);; they can probably retain any permutation of arbitration eligible players they choose to, go dumpster diving once again for a couple of band aids, and still reduce their total payroll to the 120 million range.
  12. Well, let’s not forget he’s the majority owner of the Brewers, which would conservatively be valued at 1 billion dollars. Assuming he owns at least 51% that’s a half billion in net worth, without considering whatever hedge fund monies he has outside of baseball which is in the hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars. They don’t buy these teams for the profits, it’s for the equity. The profits whatever they may be are change to the billionaire class who own most professional sports teams in America
  13. Yeah, the billionaire 1%er owner of the Brewers, is keeping the lights on in his mansions by pocketing profits from the Brewers. Or Giannis can’t otherwise buy whatever he really wants without his distribution of profits. Maybe try to demonstrate you have some idea what you’re talking about.
  14. They bought Yelich at the top of the market price, so what? Clearly ‘18 and ‘19 are outliers but stats-wise he’s still the same guy they traded for in February of ‘18. Had they not extended Yelich and he then continued to put up video game numbers and walked as a free agent, there would be an equal number of people incensed he wasn’t given an extension.
  15. For starters its Sexson, so you’re coming out of the box with little credibility. But really, all I’m doing is pointing out facts to you, dump on them all you want it doesn’t make them any less true. To recap: In the last 30 years the Brewers have had two guys they paid over 20 million a year for, and they have never had two guys making that amount at the same time. Thus, unless the Brewers suddenly buck 30+ years of history, Woodruff and Burnes will most likely both be wearing different unis when they hit six years of service time. Enjoy them.
  16. Are you 12? Because it seems like you either don't remember much beyond the last four years or choose to ignore it. One can count the number of big money extensions given out by the Brewers on one hand (Braun and Yelich). Meanwhile, you will begin to run out of fingers counting the "star" players the Brewers have sent packing before they were eligible for free agency: Greg Vaughn, Jeff Cirillo, Richie Sexson, Carlos Lee, Zack Greinke, Yovanni Gallardo, Carlos Gomez, Jonathan Lucroy, and now Josh Hader. Sure, they might not be "forced" to trade everyone like Tampa, but they still do, so what difference does it make? The Milwaukee Brewers market sucked in the 90's, and despite finding some additional revenue streams in the last 30 years, it still sucks today. That's why they will trade them all, and to suggest they're suddenly going to change course and do things differently is nonsense.
  17. You are incorrect there. Lets take a look at their roster.... C-Mejia-Trade/Blake Snell 1B-Choi-Trade/Brad Miller 2B-Paredes-Trade/Meadows SS-Walls-Draft '17 3B-Diaz-Trade/Jake Bauers LF-Arozarena-Trade/Liberatore CF-Kiermaier-Draft '10 RF-Margot-Trade/Emilio Pagan DH-Ramirez-Trade/Estaban Quiroz SP-McClanahan-Draft '18 SP-Kluber-UFA SP-Rasmussen-Trade/Adames SP-Springs-Trade Hernandez/Sogard SP-Yarbrough-Trade/Smiley SP-Baz-Trade/Archer Those have been their regulars based on games played. To be fair both Lowe-Draft '16, and Franco (Int'1) have been hurt but otherwise would start. Also, Tyler Glasnow-Trade/Archer has been out all year with an arm injury. Far and away most of their players came over in trades for veteran players. Unless a team has a payroll of 175 million dollars or more, the margin of error is nearly zero in trying to build with only it's own prospects. Constantly churning the roster trading away those quality veterans (especially starting pitchers) for younger players is the only way teams like the Brewers, Rays, Guardians, etc. can keep it rolling at the big league level without a period of tanking. That's why the Brewers will ultimately trade both Woodruff and Burnes, the only question is timing.
  18. The Rays and Indians have remained consistently competitive running smaller budgets because they have shown the discipline to keep the pipeline of young cheap talent flowing by shuffling the deck and trading their stars while they still can. Nathan Eovaldi and Chris Archer were swapped off by the Rays and netted them Jalen Beeks, Tyler Glasnow, Shane Baz and Austin Meadows. Having Glasnow and Baz in the organization allowed them to acquire Francisco Mejia , Luis Patino and others for Blake Snell. Plus, they then flipped Matthew Liberatore for Randy Arozarena and a 1st round competitive balance pick. Then they restocked their pitching by flipping Adames to Milwaukee for Drew Rasmussen and Feyereisen. Then they flipped Austin Meadows to Detroit for Isaac Paredes. The Brewers probably could sign Woodruff to an extension, but they probably shouldn't given the talent they could get in return to keep the pipeline of quality young players flowing to Milwaukee. With Ashby, Peralta, Lauer, Houser and Gasser in AAA. It wouldn't surprise me if they traded Woodruff and/or Burnes this off season to further increase their young talent level.
  19. A team can't be Rays-lite, or Guardians-lite when signing aging players to contract extensions. Woodruff represents two or three minor leaguers desperately needed to keep the pipeline of cost controlled talent continuously flowing to Milwaukee. The Brewers future is brightest trading him at some point before the expiration of his team control. Look no further than the players the Guardians received when they ultimately traded off their pennant winning pitchers of '16 (Kluber, Bauer, Carrasco, Clevinger): Emmanuel Clase, Josh Naylor, Amed Rosario, Andres Giminiez, Owen Miller, Cal Quantrill, Austin Hedges. Those players are all regulars on a Division winning team, not to mention the other useful players they acquired in those same deals like: Franmil Reyes, and Yasiel Puig et al. Woodruff as a trade chip is worth more to the Brewers than the 28-32 starts a year he would make as a well paid, pitcher with a lengthy contract extension.
  20. Maybe Stearns gets fired after all. They had been in 1st place for most of the year at the deadline and the deals imploded the team
  21. Same amount of ground to make up but fewer games, net advantage to Philadelphia
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