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Back up catchers don’t play much if at all in the playoffs, they’re basically there to avoid catastrophe if the starting catcher must leave the game; that rules out pinch hitting them except in extreme desperation scenarios. Milwaukee seemingly had either Bauers or Vaughn pinch hit late in games when they were desperate. Hard to say Jansen who hadn’t played much with the Brewers (only 25 out of 54 games after being acquired) would have been more likely to deliver a miracle.

Some heavy revisionist history there. Selig isn’t a “used care salesman” he was the CEO (and the son of the founder) of Selig Executive Leasing- a company that leased fleets of commercial vehicles and has/had annual revenue streams in the tens of millions of dollars. Major league baseball was at nadir in 1968, attendance was down, MLB expanded in 1969 in the face of diminishing attendance and had a team actually go bankrupt for the first and only time. Selig and his wealthy business pals from Milwaukee recognizing an opportunity purchased the team out of bankruptcy for 10 million dollars and moved them to Milwaukee. He and his partners were flush with cash and Milwaukee had a ready to go major league stadium (lack of liquidity and a pro stadium is why the Pilots went bust in the first place). Selig’s group’s purchase was at a time coincidentally (maybe?) that coincided with the explosion of franchise value (Yankees sold in ‘74 for 10 million dollars, Texas Rangers sold in ‘80 for 20 million dollars). When franchise values exploded and players were granted a larger share of the pie in terms of salary, Selig and Co. didn’t keep up and made the franchise irrelevant on the field and for a whole generation of would be fans. He sold his stake of the team for $223 million dollars, which conservatively adjusted for inflation is about 34 million dollars in 1970 money. Nominally, Selig’s Brewers investment grew twenty-fold: an elite result. In real dollars, it roughly tripled, which still comfortably would beat long term US Treasuries for the same time period. So yeah, great he moved a team to Milwaukee, but mythology aside he’s really no different than Attanasio (or any of the hedge fund folks that own most of the teams today): a wealthy businessman who invested in professional sports as an elite alternative asset for long term growth that also comes built in with some local power and prestige. They don’t trot out the prior owner of the Phillies, Padres, Blue Jays etc. because nobody cares. Why should it be different with the Brewers?

Logically, why would they pull the plug on Joey Ortiz anyway? The glove plays, pre-arbitration salary in ‘26, has already demonstrated some hitting ability in the majors in ‘24, BABiP suggests he was unlucky this year when the league average was 30 points higher than his. Second, for a club that doesn’t sign free agents to multi year deals very often to begin with, it seems unlikely they would break character to replace a player like Ortiz.

Yeah, need length guys and they bring along the dude coming of TJ surgery who’s pitched 5 big league innings in the last year and a half

You and I both know they’re going to start Misiorowski on Saturday he’ll be all over the place, and it’ll be over before they can give him the hook.

Peralta with 70 pitches in the third. Get ready to ride the pen hard to finish this one only to go into an elimination game with a bullpen game.

Again, I know what the result of the variables numerically is supposed to represent. OPS+ includes park factor. Nobody here knows how to calculate a park factor so it’s relying on some website that publishes them and the methodology that each site uses to do it is not uniform.

Where do you get the offensive upside from? PCA was the better hitter in the minor leagues, and true he is almost 2 years older than Chourio. But you’re comparing a 21 year old and a 23 year old. Maybe you’ll ultimately be right and in 8 years Chourio will be the far better player, but you’re just guessing right now. I’m not hailing PCA as the next super star player, just pointing out the raw numbers indicate that they’re pretty even offensively to this point in their major league careers, and certainly Chourio isn’t regarded as the defender Crow-Armstrong is.

I’ll give you a pad, pencil and stat sheet for the 2025 Brewers and 20 bucks if you can calculate wRC+ or OPS+ for the players on the Brewers. Even giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming you knew the actual formulas as opposed to merely what the result of the equation means, it’s still a sucker bet because not one of us could do the calculations without being provided variables computed by someone else. Further those variables and how they’re calculated differs between the sources that publish them such as Fan Graphs, Statcast, and Baseball Reference. Thus there is inherent subjectivity in all those metrics based on the source one uses for park factor, league averages, run environment adjustments etc. Which is why I initially said I don’t care about wRC+ because there’s a metric to support nearly any argument one wants to make. However, when you look at plate appearances, hits, extra base hits. Chourio and Crow-Armstrong have been quite similar to date in their careers.

I don’t really care about weighted runs created plus because there is seemingly a complicated metrics formula to support any argument that one wants to make (For example, PCA’s career bWAR (8.2) is more than 25% greater than Chourio’s (6.0) in nearly the same amount of games played). I’m looking at the raw counting numbers, they’re nearly identical. Chourio: 293 hits in 1162 PAs. 110 XBH PCA: 234 hits in 1076 PAs. 101 XBH. The real difference is PCA is an elite defender and Chourio is not.

Ever look at PCAs stats through 1076 PAs and Chourio’s through 1162? Eery similarities: PCA: 50 2B, 10 3B, 41 HR, 64 SB, 53 BB, 260 K Chourio: 64 2B, 8 3B, 42 HR, 42 SB, 69 BB, 242K. It’s really the defense that separates PCA as the better player of the 2. Moreover, PCA is not quite 2 years older (3/25/02) than Chourio (3/11/04).

Hoskins will be on the post season roster. There hasn’t been much reason to keep him since he came off the IL except to be the late inning power bat off the bench in the postseason.

To be eligible for a team’s post season roster the player must be in that organization, not necessarily the major league team, by midnight on August 31st.

He wasn’t playoff eligible for anyone but Milwaukee after 9/1

But what’s left of that 18 million? A million bucks? He’s had 3 MLB at bats since July 5th. Just seems weird they’d let a guy rot on their bench, for the final weeks of the season. In suppose between Hoskins, Seigler, Lockridge and Berroa (the other hitters on the 40 man, there’s no reason to not

Just a thought: is there a reason the Brewers haven’t just released Hoskins? Are they going to burn a spot on the playoff roster for a non-contact hitting pinch hitter, who hasn’t received regular MLB At bats in months?

Hahaha. Wanna bet he’s on the team beyond 2026? Perkins, Mitchell, Chourio, Frelick, Collins, Yelich. When he’s out of options, they’ll dump him if not sooner.

Exactly. Just three weeks after deeming Cortes expendable they’re signing starting pitchers off the street praying to get innings out of them. i don’t pretend to understand the shuffling that went around with absorbing Jansen’s and Jordan Montgomery’s salary while shedding part of Nestor’s, but with Hall, Henderson and now Megill on the IL and Misiorowski with about 20-30 innings left in his arm for ‘25; I’d sure rather have Cortes than Lockridge.

Miss me yet?

He’s already 20 innings over last year’s total. Unless they ride him hard that’s 20-30 innings left for the year. So what a bunch of four inning starts? Make the bullpen cover 5 innings once a week? Move him to the pen or shut him down. It’s what’s best for the team

He will be shut down before the playoffs he’s already surpassed his innings pitched in any season as a pro and there’s 5 weeks of regular season games left

I’ll say it, the Miz hype is over. ERA of around 9 since coming off the IL. Fatigue, maybe a little bit of the league catching up to him. The short starts are going to have a cumulative impact on the pitching staff. Should just move him to the pen or shut him down for the year. Better yet they shouldn’t have made the trade of Cortes for Lockridge. Would be much better having Cortes going 5 and being in Miz like Ashby for multiple innings than have Lockridge coming off the bench once or twice a week

Ok. 23 year old rookie misses 3 turns through the rotation. “Barely missed any time?” Depends who you ask. Fact is they’d be a stronger team with Cortes than Lockridge or even Cortes/Haase then Jansen/Lockridge. Big picture is Misiorowski for whatever reason lasting less than 2 innings caused or contributed to cause their loss in extras today.

Sure it is. Misiorowski is pushing inning limits, hadn’t pitched in weeks and didn’t do a rehab assignment. But lack of better options (Patrick hasn’t been called up despite the Brewers cycling through McGee, Yoho, Myers, Henderson, etc) resulted in Misiorowksi going right back into the rotation and being unable to finish two innings leading to Johnny Wholestaff on Friday, then an extra inning game Saturday, then the last two pitchers on the roster being charged with holding a one run lead against a good team.

This loss is the byproduct of Misiorowski going less than 2 innings Friday. So clinging to a late lead two days later they’re forced to use the fringe roster guys out of the pen with the game on the line. Moreover, it’s a trade of Cortes domino effect of shortening rotation depth by one leading to this mess.