Jopal78

It’s not even July 1st!? Surely the Angels, or any seller, will wait a month so teams get desperate and they can get the best talent back in return. So unless by “reasonable” you mean an offer they can’t refuse, a trade for quality relievers isn’t going to happen anytime soon.

Really? With Suppan, Braden Looper, Dave Bush a bunch of SPs with ERAs over 5. You must love punishment. Haha. FWIW Brewers took 2 of 3 from the Phillies a couple weeks back, and lost the rubber match against the Braves on a 2 run walk off homer in the bottom of the 9th. I would say they gave those teams all they could handle

What would you have them do to NOT be at a disadvantage against the Dodgers in a 7 game series? Sheesh, local broadcast revenue has made it an unfair game. Enjoy the ride. this Brewers group is way more fun to follow than any player group they’ve had since the 1980s.

Hahaha, yeah fire him!! What’s the weak spot? The Cubs took the series on a one run game in extra innings. Cubs patched together bullpen was nails the last two games. 11 1/3 IP, 1 ER, 6H 4BB, 13K. in baseball sometimes you just get beat.

Brewers should’ve signed Bryce Wilson and Pomeranz

Man, you wouldn’t know Bryce Wilson has been released 3 times in the last 18 months.

Sure but if you were GM of a team would you trade for him now knowing there’s a good chance he’s DFA’d and you could acquire him for nothing this winter?

But he’s produced the least OPS among Nashville’s regulars. 5 years since being drafted out of college and he’s in AAA for the third year in a row. Anything is possible, but it sure looks like Black an organization soldier at this point. What Black needs to do to earn a legitimate shot, would be a great question for the front office though.

He mostly plays LF with a little 1B mixed in that’s not really a utility player. It’s his 6th professional season after college and because they gave guys like Matos, Jones, Perkins at bats over Black, tells you what his standing in the organization in 2026 is.

I doubt a rebuilding team would have much interest in trading for Tyler Black, when, as you point out, he’s likely to be DFA’d in the next six months.

Your argument assumes what it is trying to prove. You’re treating WAR as an objective measurement of player evaluation and development, then concluding because the Brewers young players have accumulated more WAR the organization must have become better at identifying and developing talent. Using WAR as the evidence and your conclusion doesn’t demonstrate a superiority to hit on prospects, it simply demonstrates the model credits those specific players with more value. Importantly, it mistakes outcomes for a process. A season and a half of results from players 28 and under tells us little if the Brewers have fundamentally improved in evaluation and development compared to the other successful organizations in MLb or other eras. Plus, you’re only counting players who made it to the majors and produced. You’re ignoring poor drafts, prospects who failed, trades and international signings that didn’t work out. Trout has a 90 WAR since 2011. The Brewers might not have 3 players together that produced 90 WAR since 2011. Does that mean the Angels were better at evaluating and developing talent? Of course not. A better measure would be how consistently the Brewers graduated “prospects” over many years, or generated surplus value in trades and drafts. I think we’d find the ratio of Brewers organizational players on the “prospect lists” who made it to the majors and produced would clearly be better than the Angels, Rockies and Twins but likely would similar to the other successful organizations.

Jake Bauers is actually the counter example to your argument. Former Top 100 prospect, Milwaukee is his sixth organization, and he has a career WAR of 0.3 in nearly 700 games. (Also an example why using metrics as a measurement of player quality can be misleading). I do not understand the relevance to your argument that Brewers hitters 28 and under have a certain WAR since 2023. The Brewers don’t sign veteran free agents, so of course their roster is going to be younger. Ohtani, Betts and Freeman are all over 30 have close to 69 WAR combined since 2023 not counting the rest of the Dodgers. I don’t believe there is an objective way to conclude the Brewers are better than most teams at identifying and developing amateur talent. With the price of free agent talent today, developing their own talent is more essential for them to remain competitive than it is for the Dodgers, Padres, Mets, Cubs, Braves, etc. Their results may be more visible because they’re not going to fill holes with veterans on multi year deals. Circling back to Top 100 prospect/top prospect ranking lists. Take a look at some from 7-10 years ago. There’s always a few players usually near the top who became key contributors in the majors, also there will be a significant chunk of the players on any given list who never did a thing in the major leagues, and the majority of players on those lists are guys like Jake Bauers. Toolsy players who never became difference makers and bounced around the league as useful players. Which is to say I’m not suggesting an “F them picks” mentality like the NFL’s 49ers, but rather the notion of treating minor league players as untouchable commodities simply because their name appeared somewhere on a prospect list, is misguided.

.788 hitter in AAA in over 1000 PAs as a 1B, LF. Doesn’t seemingly have the bat to play 1B/LF in the majors, and doesn’t seemingly have the defensive skills to play 2B/3B in the majors.

What are they going to do, let Stearns hire a manager who will have more job security than he does? With a roster full of stars and an owner who expects to win, they’re not gonna be out looking for a Tony Vitello type who might take a two year deal. I think it’s fair to criticize Stearns’ longterm vision in New York. Committing what will be 170 million dollars to Polanco, Semien and Bichette, while letting Alonso go were poor decisions. I thought Stearns was going to be alright, but now that they fired Mendoza, Stearns is probably hanging on until the end of the season only because of the draft and trade deadline are right around the corner.

Luis Urias, Greg Jones and Luis Matos were top 100 prospects too. What’s that mean? Further, a year ago folks were up in arms because the Brewers left Shane Smith unprotected. Prospect rankings are nothing more than click bait lists of players who might be good or might not be good. If someone at MLB.com or baseball America or any other website could actually prognosticate who wil succeed in the majors they’d be working for a team and not writing for a fan site.

The Brewers will likely never have another Hall of Famer who identifies primarily as a Brewer. Probably more the Trevor Hoffman, Dave Parker types. Chourio, for example, would have to step up his game considerably to reach the counting stats generally required to make the Hall of Fame. At his current pace. He’d have to play until he was 40 years old to get to 500 Home runs, and even longer to get to 3000 hits.

Thats fair, personal opinion. I always liked Bauers more than probably warranted so I understand. I think you’re right about skill sets, but the metrics supporting your argument are just observations of outcomes not direct measurements of skills. Just like a doctor would not make a diagnosis based off of a blood pressure reading, I don’t think metrics really tell much about how successful someone may be in the future. But like you said , time will tell.

I guess I’m tired of this. Even the prospects lists themselves are full of variance. MLB pipeline has Adamczewski at 10 and Hardin at 15 which are nearly the exact ranks you suggested just filled by different players from whatever source you used. I guess there are only four things to be sure of in life: 1. death, 2. Taxes 3. Any veteran player available at the deadline isn’t worth a prospect if anyone has heard of him. 4. Because all, Brewer prospects are destined to be future major league contributors .

Ok, now I got it. Paredes a two time all-star 12.6 career WAR player is not an upgrade at the position over Ortiz (career WAR 3.0) and Hamilton (4.5). Thanks for clarifying your point.

There was just a lengthy article about Yoho in the JS a week or two ago. In essence Yoho tries to paint the corners and get batters to chase stuff that’s not in the zone. He can get AAA batters to chase his fastball but major league hitters are able to see it as a ball and don’t swing.

Define overpay? The two farmhands I mentioned are not amongst Milwaukee’s top echelon. Sheesh. Thats more like a grapefruit being .99 and leaving it in the bin because it’s too expensive, because you’re only willing to spend a quarter on a grapefruit.

No, he’s never been a free agent. He only has 4 years service time

Don’t know where you’re getting 97+ for Hardin, but here’s MLB’s scouting report. Their words not mine “average velocity”. Maybe you’re right about Houston but they have a lot of guys 35 or older and pitchers with ERAs of 5, so anything can happen over the next 5 weeks.

There is no way of knowing that. However, I do know that Joey Ortiz went hitless in that series and was up to bat with runners on base in Games 1, 3 & 4. Issac Collins also went hitless in the series, and in fact pinch hit for Ortiz late in Game 3 and in Game 4 both times with runners on base. So maybe, but who knows? Like I said, it seems you’re just a proponent of running it back with who they have, and waiting for the kids who may or may not arrive in 2028 to maybe push them over the top. That’s certainly one way to look at things.

The Brewers were the best team in baseball last year, and their talent level was easily exposed by the Dodgers in a sweep. If you don’t think Paredes would raise the overall talent level on the roster then I guess your a proponent of just running it back because Juan Soto isnt going to be available to drive up that 9.3% …. And Top 15 prospects? That’s Antione Kelly, Ethan Small, Eric Brown Jr. territory. They’re crap shoots, might be something but just as likely to be nothing and the exact type that should be traded when they can net a major league regular.