Jopal78
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No, the point is this: the Brewers have moved on from Keston Hiura. But for catastrophic injuries across their roster- or desperation save the season scenarios based on their conduct to date they have zero intention of bringing him back to the majors. That he’s toiled away in AAA while other players have been released, traded etc. is indicative of what the league thinks of Hiura as a major league player. No doubt, he’s in a bad spot. CBA dictates he can’t be optioned and any team that picks him up has to tender him a contract at more than 2 million dollars in ‘24. It just doesn’t make him real attractive unless you’re drinking that 2019 Kool Aid.
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With a game and an half over the Reds and Cubs it’s ostensibly 49 game season, how long do you suggest to give him to see if he’s one of their 26 best guys? (Which I’m not advocating they cut him, rather a question: a guy who they’re not paying, won’t be there next year, and has kind of been a disappointment this season, how long of a rope do you give someone like that?)
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Keston Hiura has a .984 OPS in Nashville
Jopal78 replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
Need players to fill out a roster and they had to pay him anyways? -
That would be a bold move given the chances they gave to Norris and Schoop in recent years. But yeah, Canha has been a slice above crappy this year (which is why Mets were essentially giving him away for free, and willing to pay money just get something in the first place). There’s no reason his leash in Milwaukee should be very long.
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Keston Hiura has a .984 OPS in Nashville
Jopal78 replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
I could see Tyler Black coming up for September with a Winker DFA. I kind of hope they simply release Hiura; so the dream can “officially” be over. Though I guess the Brewers are doing him a solid giving him ABs in AAA to keep him game shape in case somebody needs a late season body in the majors Anybody honestly think he’s NOT going to wind up as an NRI for another team in 24? -
Ok, you’re right there probably has been a top secret plan all year (while the Brewers scuffle along in a tight three way division race,) to pull Kest Daddy out of their trick bag just in time to cinch the Division; and with the skills he learned in AAA this year, absolutely lay waste to the opposing MLB pitchers as a one man wrecking crew to in October 🙄
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Well, obviously. What is the main reason non-competitive teams trade away veterans in the first place?… to trim payroll. And before you bring up, Steve Cohen, it’s impossible to know what the Mets are doing because they are paid more now for former players than they are current Mets. As for Blalock, again obviously if he was in AA his FV would probably be higher. But the statheads at FanGraphs placed his future value at 40 based on what they see right now and in the context of the difficulty of the climb from A ball to the major leagues. What they see is a guy who looks like a backend starter, 5.00 FIP pitcher. He could prove them wrong.
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Occam’s razor. They gave Urias away for a warm body, they released Brosseau so he could pursue an opportunity in Japan, yet they still have Hiura. No inside information needed only logic..
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That nobody wanted Hiura at the deadline and especially in a situation where the Brewers were actively trying to cut extra payroll (Urias) for players no longer in their plans; seems to indicate nobody in the game believes he’s a major league hitter.
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A real bear market this year based on quality of prospects traded at the deadline if Blalock was the 15th best. Fangraphs pegged Blalock’s FV at 40 which they define as a backend starter 5.00 FIP pitcher. (Best FV on any player traded was 50 or ‘average everyday player’). Urias being shipped out really was just to offset some of the payroll they took on with the other three.
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The middle infielders in Boston are old friend Pablo Reyes, Christian Arroyo and Yu Chang, they sent Urias to AAA. That Boston does not view Urias as an immediate upgrade to that trifecta explains why the Brewers were only able to get a 22 year old pitcher who has yet to advance beyond A-ball but is Rule 5 eligible this winter (and one that the Boston media wrote nary a word about in their articles on the trade) As pointed out by others, it looks like the Brewers trimming some costs in ‘23 with a player who is no longer in their long term plans. Boston gets some a middle infielder who could still bounce back to being a productive player in time and can more easily afford to take the financial risk in seeing if he can do it.
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Maybe, but it overlooks the fact Candelario had more recent success in the majors than Brian Anderson. Most likely they went with whatever player was cheaper. They got Anderson for about 66% of what Candelario got.
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Brewers (Miley) vs Nationals (Gore): 8/2/23, 12:05pm
Jopal78 replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Archived Game Threads
…. but they just got two guys to improve the worst spots in the lineup from awful to average. -
Hands down the best poster here!
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Depends on how you look at it. If the goal was to improve the team as much as possible without giving up prized minor leaguers they achieved their goal. Under that perspective you’d give them an A. Did they use the deadline to fix what ails team? Not really, most likely they will still be offensively challenged, but maybe the problem simply wasn’t fixable with what players were available C+\B-
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What’s your problem? I didn’t even dump on the trade. Chafin’s been alright, he’s not some elite reliever, and depending what site you consult he’s been about replacement level this year or a little better. He’ll pitch 20 games for the Brewers and will be with another club next year (unless you think the Brewers are going to pay 7.5 million dollars in ‘24 for a middle reliever). Strzelecki might be nothing, he might revert to being a 7th - 8th inning guy, who knows? But the D’Backs have five years to find out.
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Wait for the minor league season to end so he can be a minor league free agent
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Yeah, I was just thinking of that. They gave up the best player and the two guys they got were in the minors, now one is gone
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You’re literally comparing a 0.1 bWAR this year to a 0 bWAR pitcher. Not that I’m being a “contrarian” good for the Brewers, rather highlighting the glib dismissive comments overlooks the D’Backs are getting 5 years of a hard throwing reliever for 20 games or so of a guy who has been basically replacement level so far this year… that’s the value.
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It’s 5 years of one guy for 20- 25 games from another
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Yes, those Mariners who are 4th in their division and buried in the wild card race. 🙄
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Guess we can differ on the term “retooling”. First place clubs that trade away the best lefty reliever in the game is very a small group. Nice try with the straw man reference to obfuscate that what I said a year ago was true.
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Except that wasn’t a retooling was it, and that’s not a complaint. In fact, that statement proved to be 100% accurate because more than a few people attribute last year’s collapse to the Hader trade and the struggles of the new relievers.
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Yes, unfortunately they didn’t get these guys in May they got them with 55 games left. It’s too bad they bungled their roster coming into the season and ended up giving 800 PA’s to a collective of Winker, Turang, Perkins, Voit, Ruf, Singleton, Tapia when the best of them but up a .587 OPS.
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I like the sentence about “how much of a boost it gives them”, that’s my point. Their offense is terrible (13th out of 15th in the NL in runs scored) A couple of mediocre vets, like Santana and Canha - even hitting on all cylinders for the next 55 games - probably doesn’t get the Brewers out of the bottom 3 in terms of runs scored.
