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  1. When you say recently, who do you mean? I wouldn’t call Braun, Fielder etc recent. Most of their current players are major leaguers from other clubs. I guess Ashby had 30 good innings in ‘21 wasn’t great in ‘22 then hurt his shoulder hard to say what they have there. By their own admission in DFA’ing him they failed at developing Hiura. Tyrone Taylor is okay although he spent 6+ years in the minors. Granted, who knows on Turang, Wiemer Frelick and Uribe they could all be great or they could just as easily be nothing, too early to tell.
  2. Maybe, but outside the first round the baseball draft is mostly luck. Yet, I imagine all the teams have similar lists of players they identified as first round talents. For example if ANY team, including Milwaukee, believed Corbin Burnes had top of the rotation/Cy Young potential coming out of college they would not take a chance waiting for the 4th round to pick him.
  3. Burnes, Woodruff and Peralta. None of whom were first round picks. In sincerity, you’re a sharp fan so I am sure you know the trickle down effect on the roster of having three homegrown top of the rotation starters. Put those three pitchers on the Angels and they’d surely jump near the top of their league in wins, even without spending a fortune on free agents so I don’t understand your point/question. As for first round picks it’s true, the two best Brewer first round picks in the last decade were guys they traded away (Grisham and Haniger). Haniger technically was 11 years ago. If you want to discount him it would then be either Grisham and Hiura or Mitchell.
  4. Take a deep dive into their roster. They have four former first round picks on their roster with better than a 1.0 bWAR. Zach Neto is already a 1.8 in about 60 games. Fact is the Angels have gotten more out of their first round picks in the last ten years than Milwaukee has. Second they traded Syndergaard to Philadelphia for Mickey Moniak and got him turned around and playing like a former #1 overall should. So the “mortgaging all their prospect capital and failing at developing whatever prospects they do have” is without credibility. Yeah, they haven’t developed enough pitching. They’re not the first team to suck at that: Milwaukee developed but 2 or 3 above average starting pitchers in the 25 years between 1992 and 2017. Then again the Cubs won a World Series with only one SP they developed. In free agency sometimes you win, sometimes you lose but nearly always regret your purchases as time passes (Josh Lindblom, Lorenzo Cain, Matt Albers, Matt Garza, Kyle Lohse, etc). I’m sure I’ll get more disdain and not change your mind so I’ll let you have the final word.
  5. You could be right, Turang is having his best month but has been the weakest link offensively on the infield and is the youngest, but it’d be just as easy to ship Toro out or DFA Jones.
  6. Santana to 1B, Owen Miller probably takes over at 2B and Turang goes to AAA to make room for Santana. There is an open 40 man spot, we shall see who goes when they activate Justin Wilson, could be Jahmai Jones, Winker, or maybe even Mejia
  7. I liked your post until the last sentence. The original poster said “Worst in All of Sports” which clearly they’re not, and now you’re moving the goal posts to “one of the worst in the sport” and taking a shot at me. It doesn’t matter if it’s Ohtani and Trout, Ruth and Gehrig, Molitor and Yount, you can’t win with two players. What do big money teams do when they don’t have enough talent, they throw money at it.
  8. As KS pointed out more eloquently earlier, does trying hard and failing make you a poorly run team? What about Oakland, Miami, Pittsburgh, Kansas City, for the most part they don’t even try? Do the Angels run a huge payroll, yes. Are they aggressive trading prospects to win now? Yes. Do they ever tank, or sell off all their pieces, No. Do they regularly sign marquee free agents? Yes Was it dumb to sign Pujols for 10/250? Yes, then again they landed the Mack Daddy of the 2011 free agent class. Rendon’s contract looks awful in hindsight but he was coming off a 6.7 WAR season at 29, and was Mack Daddy of hitter in the 2019 free agent class. Failing to win more with Trout and Ohtani is unfortunate but baseball is a hard sport to win at (The Angels have as many WS titles as the Dodgers this century). Criticize them for the Skaggs thing, but I wouldn’t lump the Angels in with the dregs of the league simply for trying to win and failing.
  9. I get that Mitchell was a first round pick, and the Brewers have plenty of OF options. But Mitchell hasn’t been able to stay healthy since turning pro, not to mention a diabetic. If you can’t count on him to be healthy, what’s he really worth in a trade?
  10. Just restate the conclusion and say there’s no arguing against it, quality post.
  11. Yep,Giolito serves as a reminder on prospect hype. When he debuted he was MLB’s #3 prospect. Baseball Prospectus had him #3 and Baseball America had him #5,
  12. That’s a bold statement I don’t even think either of those two are the worst run in baseball (Athletics) let alone sports. There was a thread on this over the off season. Arte Moreno maybe is too patient keeping Scioscia around for too long. Outside of Trout, the GMs he hired haven’t done well enough developing players from within, they’re certainly not along in that regard. And like most big money clubs they’ve had their share of high priced free agents flops. Yet to their credit, the Angels haven’t finished last in their Division since 1999, they have lost 90 games or more just twice in the last 24 seasons. (By comparison in the same span the Brewers have had three last place finishes and 5 seasons with 90 or more losses, the Mets have had two last place finishes and lost 90 or more games four times). Because the floor is higher yet the ceiling has been lower, does that make them a poorly run team?
  13. … or maybe because of expanded playoffs and a couple weak divisions there’s only about 8-9 teams really looking to trade off their veterans so it’s a seller’s market. According to MLB, Edgar Quero was #65 (the Brewers Quero is #72), and the Angels had to include another player with potential to net a good but not great starting rental pitcher and a middle reliever. Now couple that with Matt Arnold‘s comments about “buying responsibly” and “improvement from within” it could very well be a quiet deadline for Milwaukee.
  14. No team is going to take on that amount of cash for that long AND give value back to Milwaukee for Yelich so there would be no real reason to trade him. Granted, even if they simply wanted out from underneath Yelich’s contract to have the financial flexibility to deal with the next generation; the risk that none of the young outfielders referenced grow into major leaguers who deserve that kind of commitment or are even interested in forgoing their ultimate free agency is real.
  15. Laying on the snark while scolding others for it… nice.
  16. I’m not playing devils advocate, the opposite. It’s as though you pay no attention to how this team actually operates. They have Yelich making a 5th of the payroll. The starting pitching staff takes up an even bigger chunk, and they fill in the roster with rookies, bargain buys, bounce back players, etc. In years when they don’t have the talent to compete they cut payroll pretty close to the bone. Thus, I don’t know why you think they would suddenly deviate from how they’ve gone about roster construction for the last 10 years by suggesting they should go sign a couple of impact free agents. Maybe you just want to be a Cubs fan.
  17. If it were only that easy. That’s 6 players on the 26 man roster or major league injured list. That 43 million won’t help add any impact players when it’s spread out to cover arbitration raises plus signing players to replace this year’s 1B, 3B, DH, back up Cather and 2 starting pitchers and bench players.
  18. They wanted to give him one more shot; I am sure it is hard to move on from a former top 10 pick who had a season like Hiura did in 2019.
  19. I’m not an expert on the CBA, but when they DFA’d Hiura and he went unclaimed, the Brewers outrighted him to AAA. At that point if Hiura reports to AAA he still gets paid. So Hiura’s there to get paid, and for the Brewers since they have to pay him anyway it’s one fewer spot to they need to fill to field a AAA team. Marriage of convenience that will be over in about a month or less.
  20. You’re right, maybe Counsell and Arnold simply want to get fired and never get another job in baseball so they jerk Hiura around on purpose and blow the owner’s money.
  21. He’s not worth anything. Any acquiring team would have to pay him a half million bucks (when most sellers are looking to trim payroll) for 8 weeks worth of games. Then he’s either tendered a contract for 3-4 million and carried on the 40 man all winter or he’s cut loose. What exactly do you expect the Brewers to get for that?
  22. I’m sure they have more information than fans do, there’s something about his game that’s unacceptable to the team and he can’t fix it. If they didn’t like him as a human, they’d just release him.
  23. I just don’t think he’s in Milwaukee’s plans, period. Their DH goes on the DL they have an open spot on the 40 man roster and they call up somebody else. In a week or so, the math will really be working against Hiura as the Brewers will need two spots for n the 40 man roster for Justin Wilson and Woodruff, eventually an 3rd for Ashby. Plus spots for whomever they acquire at the deadline. Even Hiura’s trade value isn’t much beyond doing him a solid with a change of scenery, because even if he was traded at the deadline, he’d still be owed a half-million dollars in salary by his new team, he would have to go on an acquiring team’s 40 man roster and then after 8 weeks of play his new team would have to decide to tender him a 3-4 million dollar contract and carry him on their 40 man all winter. Frankly, I wouldn’t be surprised if Hiura finishes out the season in AAA for Milwaukee then leaves as a minor league free agent.
  24. And Winker makes nearly 10% of the teams payroll. 10 million dollar guys get plenty of chances before being sent packing
  25. Be careful implying I don’t know what a straw man argument is, the civility police might think you’re making a personal attack calling me dumb. (In fact I do know what it means, and that was a joke -fabled- because 90% of the time it’s tossed into these debates it’s an incorrect application) Anyways, neither Jimenez or Burger will be a Brewer in August, I’ll let you have the final word on the rest.
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