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Keston Hiura has a .984 OPS in Nashville
Jopal78 replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
I’m not an expert on the CBA, but when they DFA’d Hiura and he went unclaimed, the Brewers outrighted him to AAA. At that point if Hiura reports to AAA he still gets paid. So Hiura’s there to get paid, and for the Brewers since they have to pay him anyway it’s one fewer spot to they need to fill to field a AAA team. Marriage of convenience that will be over in about a month or less. -
Keston Hiura has a .984 OPS in Nashville
Jopal78 replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
You’re right, maybe Counsell and Arnold simply want to get fired and never get another job in baseball so they jerk Hiura around on purpose and blow the owner’s money. -
Keston Hiura has a .984 OPS in Nashville
Jopal78 replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
He’s not worth anything. Any acquiring team would have to pay him a half million bucks (when most sellers are looking to trim payroll) for 8 weeks worth of games. Then he’s either tendered a contract for 3-4 million and carried on the 40 man all winter or he’s cut loose. What exactly do you expect the Brewers to get for that? -
Keston Hiura has a .984 OPS in Nashville
Jopal78 replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
I’m sure they have more information than fans do, there’s something about his game that’s unacceptable to the team and he can’t fix it. If they didn’t like him as a human, they’d just release him. -
Keston Hiura has a .984 OPS in Nashville
Jopal78 replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
I just don’t think he’s in Milwaukee’s plans, period. Their DH goes on the DL they have an open spot on the 40 man roster and they call up somebody else. In a week or so, the math will really be working against Hiura as the Brewers will need two spots for n the 40 man roster for Justin Wilson and Woodruff, eventually an 3rd for Ashby. Plus spots for whomever they acquire at the deadline. Even Hiura’s trade value isn’t much beyond doing him a solid with a change of scenery, because even if he was traded at the deadline, he’d still be owed a half-million dollars in salary by his new team, he would have to go on an acquiring team’s 40 man roster and then after 8 weeks of play his new team would have to decide to tender him a 3-4 million dollar contract and carry him on their 40 man all winter. Frankly, I wouldn’t be surprised if Hiura finishes out the season in AAA for Milwaukee then leaves as a minor league free agent. -
Keston Hiura has a .984 OPS in Nashville
Jopal78 replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
And Winker makes nearly 10% of the teams payroll. 10 million dollar guys get plenty of chances before being sent packing -
Be careful implying I don’t know what a straw man argument is, the civility police might think you’re making a personal attack calling me dumb. (In fact I do know what it means, and that was a joke -fabled- because 90% of the time it’s tossed into these debates it’s an incorrect application) Anyways, neither Jimenez or Burger will be a Brewer in August, I’ll let you have the final word on the rest.
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Sounds to me like you’re encroaching on the fabled straw man argument, highlighting that folks disagree with me (oh well), in order to obscure the fact the hallowed Baseball Trade Evaluator says you’re wrong about the value of Jake Burger, Tyler Black. I say if you’re wrong about those two, maybe you’re wrong about them all, and you don’t really know any better than anyone of us.
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Hahaha, sure. They drafted Burger 11th overall in ‘17, and he’s been okay hitter and is pre-arbitration eleigible. I’m sure the Sox will just give him away for spare parts. Wait! What does that junk trade evaluator site say?! Black AND Mitchell is only a slight overpay… sacrilege!
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I said, 822 OPs+ which would mean 22% better than league average, or at least that’s how MLB defines that metric, agree or not…. And I haven’t cherry picked any metrics but OPS+. We both know all teams have the DH now, so Jimenez not being a good defender is irrelevant and doesn’t figure into his OPS+ stat I cited anyhow. I will add a contract JD Martinez signed 7! years ago means absolutely nothing because salaries have exploded since then, especially since the signing of the most recent CBA. If you want to believe a hard throwing rookie relief pitcher without demonstrable major league command is close to fair value for an above average 26 year old cost controlled major league hitter even with injury issues go for it.
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So what? Talent costs money, and Trout is nearly twice the player Yelich is. (an 85 career WAR in 5400 games. Yelich is 39 WAR in 5000 games), but his AAV 35.5 million on his contract isn’t twice what Yelich is paid in his (27.4 million AAV). Trout is an absolute bargain when compared to Yelich. In fact, it’s probably a good bet Trout’s production over the next five years outpaces Yelich’s to such an extent that it makes the extra three years worth it.
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Ha, that website is a joke, I don’t really care what it says. (According to that website the Brewers would be getting hosed trading Yelich for Trout straight up). It’s a classic Brewerfan trope to dump on some other team’s players while boosting the value of the organizations own players— but the real inquiry is what it would cost to buy a 26 year old with a career OPS+ of 122 as a free agent. Without a doubt more than 3yrs/49 million. Heck, I don’t think a team could even sign such a player for just three years let alone the AAV. As to the JD Martinez reference, there’s a reason he’s playing on a 1yr/10 million dollar deal— he’s 36 and had a .790 OPS last year. That’s exactly what you get for 10 million dollars in the free agent market— aging players coming off bad seasons. Finally as for Uribe his walks per 9 ratio in the minors was more than 50% higher than Hader and Williams. Like I said, he either figured out his command overnight, or he hasn’t gotten exposed yet in his 4 innings. Time will tell. I do know, he won’t be a late inning reliever walking that many per 9. Exactly what is the value of a middle reliever/long man who walks almost 7 batters per 9? Zilch. That’s what hurts his value.. the risk that he can be a nothing .
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Of course it makes sense. Jimenez is an above average major league hitter under team control through 2026. He has had his share of injuries, but Jimenez isn’t the problem with the White Sox. To trade him suggests they 1.) got blown away by an offer— which certainly is not two stiffs like Hiura and Urias and a relief pitcher. 2.) they’re taking it down to the studs to completely rebuild, which isn’t happening. As for Uribe, I’d encourage you to take off the prospect love glasses. I agree he has an electric arm and you cannot teach triple digit velocity, BUT he had MAJOR command issues in the minor leagues, and has pitched a whopping 4 innings in the majors. Which leaves two possibilities, Uribe magically solved his command issues, or he hasn’t gotten exposed in the majors yet. Maybe he’ll figure it out and be a dominant late inning reliever for years, but a relief pitcher walking nearly 7 batters per 9 won’t cut it in the majors, and nobody at this point knows which outcome is more likely. That means his value simply isn’t as great as you think because there is a ton of risk with him going forward.
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Hitting is hitting. OPS+ is a hitting stat, so there is a relevance issue with your comments about defense. My point is: Jimenez is 26, has been a significantly better hitter than average and is cost controlled for years down the road. Considering that in today’s game even a mediocre free agent hitter costs in the neighborhood of 10 million a season, Jimenez’s contract makes him that much more valuable.
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26 years old, .825 career OPS in 1400 career PAs, under team control through 2026 at an AAV at 15+ million. True he has dealt with injuries, but his career OPS+ is 122, that’s better offensive production than Richie Sexson, Willy Adames and a hair behind Arenado. I would say he has a great deal of value. Yes, I get the White Sox are a moribund team having a particularly bad season. However it does not also mean all their players are low value and they’re looking to do a tear down. The reality is the price it would take for them to move players they don’t have to like Jimenez, Robert etc. would be the type of prospect capital the Brewers simply wouldn’t trade. Impending free agents: Lance Lynn, Grandal, Giolito Reynaldo López, Joe Kelly etc are a different story— they’ll likely move them all for whatever they can get.
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Is Brice Turang a Major League Hitter? How concerned are you?
Jopal78 replied to Brewcrew82's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
… I think you’re still doing just that with the reference to Arcia. His BABiP is .330 that is better than Ohtani’s (.322), and that mark is 40 points over Arica’s career norm. Kudos to Arcia for an extended hot streak and having a career year, but I’d say odds are pretty good he’ll turn back into the pumpkin as reflected by the first 2100 PAs he got in the majors. As for Turang, the Brewers certainly want to get something for their bonus money, but a sub .600 OPS won’t cut it for long in today’s major leagues, so the real question is how much rope he gets. -
Never happen for a few reasons. First and foremost, the White Sox probably aren’t looking to tear it down with a first year manager, and a GM who out this core of players together. So to move Jimenez they’d likely need to be blown away. Secondly, Uribe has velocity and late inning potential, but is far from a sure thing at this point. Hiura has next to zero trade value, he was freely available talent once already this season. Not being on the 40 man roster and with his experience, he’s likely 3 months away from being a minor league free agent. Not the type of player teams are going to spend significant assets to acquire. Same deal with Urias, his production has been going backwards since ‘21, he is making almost 5 million dollars a season and is currently lost at the plate in AAA. Without a big turn around soon, Urias is a probable non-tender.
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Is Brice Turang a Major League Hitter? How concerned are you?
Jopal78 replied to Brewcrew82's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
First of all, Ganter’s first three years in the majors he came off the bench, Turang has been a starter so the early years are actually not comparable at all either. I cited to Ganter’s last year in the majors to show how poorly Turang has played. That a washed up 39 year old Gantner never known for his bat, put up a similar stat line, as Turang this year. If you want to compare the first time Gantner was a regular and got 200+PAs in a season (like this year with Turang), his slash line was .284/.336/.389. Then again, this isn’t even an apt comparison because the offensive side of the game has changed so much since Gantner played. Turang’s ability to hit will shape his career trajectory. Right now he’s rostered in the majors out of necessity, but with a sub .600 OPS and playing 2B, he probably doesn’t stick long term if the Brewers have alternatives for the keystone. -
Is Brice Turang a Major League Hitter? How concerned are you?
Jopal78 replied to Brewcrew82's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
The Ken Rosenthal types questioned whether he would hit in the majors. His minor league stat sheet isn’t impressive. Whether someone is concerned or not depends on where the expectations are, it should not come as a total shock he can’t hit. I don’t know if a Gantner comparison is apt as he was an ok hitter as a young man, then racked up a huge number of PAs in his mid to late 30s with poor results. Ganter’s final season at 39 is on par with what Turang’s doing. When Anderson is again healthy Turang’s at bats likely dry up with Monasterio moving over to 2nd. If Urias could get it going Turnag would probably lose his roster spot. -
Sorry Homey, reading comprehension. Never was proposed, never said it would go through. Good try however.
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A Colin Rea for Justin Turner “type” swap? What’s that… a type of trade where you hire someone who will threaten to kill the GMs family unless they make an idiotic trade? Boy there’s been some real doozies thrown around here lately.
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Keston Hiura has a .984 OPS in Nashville
Jopal78 replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
… or the team has some very logical reasons why he’s not in the 40 man roster and you’re unaware of them and haven’t figured them out yet, Why? For a few reasons: 1. The Brewers FO and manger are smart baseball people. Virtually all of them want to continue in pro-baseball and therefore give their best efforts to do their jobs. So we can rule out, them being ignorant of his stat sheet, metrics, etc. or trying to sabotage his career. 2. Since being DFA’d no team has come calling on Hiura (or at least none that’s been reported). The Brewers have a track record of doing right by their former players (One example putting Suter on waivers instead of a non-tendering so he wouldn’t have to take a pay cut. Another, trading Erceg to Oakland who wanted him for the big league team) you have to believe if a team wanted Hiura for their big league roster the Brewers wouldn’t stand in the way by keeping him in AAA all year. Also the sheer number of hitters who have cycled through Milwaukee this year ahead of Hiura. 3. It’s now two successive GMs (Stearns and Arnold) who haven’t see Hiura as a major leaguer, I don’t think they are idiots, thus there must be a legit baseball reason there is no interest in him from Milwaukee or really from other clubs. -
That’s what making ten million dollars a season on a small market club gets you, almost endless chances.

