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Everything posted by jay87shot
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Good young starting pitching always has value especially with his year last year. The O's gave up 2 really solid pieces for Trevor Roger's and I think a point can be made that Myers value is as good or better than Roger's last year. Would the Mets be interested, I have long like Ronny Mauricio. All IF positions possible and the athleticism to play OF.
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Dubaniweitz and Dorchies are of to a great start in A ball. Looking like studs if they can continue to develop. Are we likely to see a bunch of injured players coming back after the all star break? Adams, Pratt (as mentioned), Letson, Mccage (not sure if hurt or going slow), among others I am blanking on.
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I know I heard a clip from somewhere where Baltimore fans were looking to get a top 100 prospect for O'Hearn. I know that isn't the front office but my guess is that it would take a top 10 organization prospect and a decent 2nd piece for Suarez or O'Hearn. At minimum it would probably be like Letson and Kuehner (both could use pitching) for O'Hearn or Saurez.
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Here are some other interesting layers round guys I like. 146 Ryan Wideman. 6'5" 70 run OF from Western Kentucky, 36 xbh 147 Gabe Davis. 6'9" starter who can hit 100, injuries have slowed him. Still lots of room to grow. 155 Joshua Jannicelli. 6'6" 185, lots and lots of room to add to a low 90's heater 165 Brock Ketelsen. Intrueging 2 way player who isn't 18 for a week after the draft. 178 CJ Gray. Big arm (up to 98) for a HS pitcher this late, it will take a well above slot to get him. 184 Aidan Teel. Kyle's younger brother. Still 20 for a month. Average power and speed buy good defense and walked more than k. 186 Damien Bravo. Very toolsy, hit over power in 24, more power this year.
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Brock Stewart for Marco Dinges, yes or no?
jay87shot replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Transaction Rumors & Proposals
Stewart has been a nothing until this year. Peguero and Payamps in AAA are probably as reliable. No -
After reading up on guys in the top 100 I really like most of the guys from Tennessee. Kilen and Fischer are solid bats but maybe defensive positions don't work great at 20, but 32 would be a steal. Marcus Phillips and AJ Russell have huge arms and would be great upside picks. Russell at 68 could work, he has an injury so signing him would be easier. Dean Curley is underrated at 60, for a big guy with college success. Another 2nd round option maybe 32 if he can save us alot. Tanner Franklin and Nate Snead are two guys rated 100+ again with big arms and upsides. Snead is also from Wisconsin and probably one of my favorite round 3+ options.
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I just think that at 20 having a good year in AA he isn't valued appropriately by league scouts. He is usually in the 10-20 organizationally which would likely make him a 3rd or 4th piece for a big name player. If we could get top 10 org prospect value for him I would be OK moving him. It's the problem with having a stacked system right now. Basically everyone outside of the top 10 prospects seem underrated.
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Because Tyler Black has no trade value but if we hold on to him he can be a productive player (big maybe). In my opinion trading Tyler Black would maybe get us someone like Tyler Alexander value which we don't need. Conversely I think Wilken's trade value is high. I wouldn't give him away but if someone required him as a 2nd piece for a quality controlled bat I would move him. I am just really looking at current trade value vs. potential value (prospect or to our team).
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I guess you can just make a list of the untouchable players or make groups of some type. For me I have 2 groups 1)Untouchable (Under no circumstances should we trade) Misi, Made, Pena 2) Guys who are underrated and should not be traded because the return will not be enough. Basically these are guys with top 100 prospect upside or have high likelihood of being reliable mlb pieces. C)Dinges 1B)Adams, Bitonti, Burke IF)Arienamo, Di Turri, Murray, Josh A, Black OF)Lara, Anderson, Payne P)Meccage, Letson, Crow, Hardin, Melvin H, ManRod, 2023/24 HS prospects
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The Ray's just traded a comp. pick #37 to the O's for Bryan Baker. Baker has good strikeout numbers but has been a pretty average reliever his entire career. My question is with our depth at pitching is there anyone that could be traded for a comp. pick in the next couple days. Comp A 33=Boston (can't be traded Priester) 34=Detriot 35=Seattle 36=Minnesota 37=Baltimore (Baker deal) 38/39/40= Mets/Yanks/LAD (not sure these can be traded 1st round picks moved down 10 spots) 41=LAD (Lux deal) 42=TB (Springs deal) 43=Marlins Comp B 66=Clev 67=TB (unsigned 24 pick) 68=Milw (Levonas) 69=Balt. 70=Clev (Naylor deal) 71=KC 72=St. Louis 73=Pittsburg 74=Colorado Detriot at 37 stands out to me, they could use pitching help either starting (Quintana) long relief (DL Hall) or bullpen (??? Grant Anderson). We could get an addition prospect in return. Maybe KC would want Peguero for 71?
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Murray to AAA, Jadher AA, Pena A+, Josh A back to a ball Where does everyone feel like Lara's ceiling is? Does he have some ability to turn these 2B into HR in the next couple years? Basically is he a 5 HR hitter in the bigs or is there a shot he gets to 15? At 20 years old there is still a ways to go that even at 5'8" there could be some untapped power. Do you guys who watch these games think Ryan Birchard will switch to relief next year? It seems to me an unevitabilty, also if they do it sooner maybe he could transition back to starting after getting his stuff under control.
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I wouldn't touch Reynolds with a 10 foot pole, even if he has been super unlucky he still has regressed and is 30. For me he is a much worse version of Yelich with a longer deal and big question marks. He has turned into a poor defender (-5 runs this year and -5 last) and he doesn't really run well anymore, 3 steals this year. His ceiling is like a .275/.350/.800 hitter with 20 HR which is fine but he won't sustain that for 5 years. I would much rather trade for Cedric Mullins (iffy) or Jesus Sanchez who have better upside and don't have quite the same question marks. I would also draft a college OF who could move quickly and help out in a year or two.
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To trade for Kuminga we would need to send out Kuzma and possibly more money. I don't see why Golden State would do that when they could just re-sign Kuminga instead. If Bradley Beal get cut lose he would be a great target. Possibly then trade Kuzma for a point guard I think Marcus Smart for Kuzma woudl financially work but we would probably need a third team because Washington probably doesn't want Kuz back.
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Thanks, for this. I think it will be interesting to see what picks we use to try and save money. I doubt we "reach" as far down in the rankings in the 1st like last year. I would think one of the 1st 2 picks we will look to save big money and 68 the Levonas pick that we lose if we don't sign the pick. It would be really nice to find a guy like Wilken in the 1st who is a high end prospect and will to sign well under slot to help the team. It would be nice if the draft was a couple weeks earlier, I think the CWS ended June 23 so really like July 1st makes more sense to me. The reason being that rookie ball ends later in July (not sure date) but it doesn't give new signees really any time to get in games in rookie ball. Obviously some of the college draft picks can go to A-ball.
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Other SS that we could overpay for.
jay87shot replied to BrewersRice's topic in Transaction Rumors & Proposals
I would think Abrams would be possible after they fired there coach and gm. I doubt any of the others would be moved. I think the values of some of the prospects is a bit off. For me Ortiz should have like a 10 value, I get he has a negative WAR this year but is coming around offensively and I really haven't seen a reason for the negative fielding value. I think the package would be something like Ortiz, Pratt, Henderson, and Wichrowski. I am sure there are lots of substitutions or additions that would work still maybe change Ortiz for a 3rd base prospect (preferably not Bitonti), or like you mentioned Patrick instead of Henderson or Myers or CarRod for Wichrowski swap, if you wanted to throwing Perkins that probably could work. That would be pretty close to what Boston gave up for Crochet (I now Abrams has more control). I would worry about how Abrams would fit with the team, he was suspended at the end of last year for staying out until like 3 o'clock gambling or something the night before a noon game. My guess is that isnt the first time that happened to get suspended. He does seem like a pretty good teammate other than that though. -
I would love that but I think that is high, we almost gave Civale away (I know Vaughn has been good for 2 games) and he had 4 solid starts. I would be overjoyed if we could get 1 one those for Nestor.
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I am not against trading Q, someone between Q, Woody, and Cortes will need to go or move to the pen. Cortes won't get the starts to have much value and if Woody pitches like his first start we won't want to move him. Q is replaceable with Cortes, Patrick, Henderson, and Myers all capable of replacing him and providing depth. I think your package for Q is a bit high even for an overpay but it is on the right track.
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This weekly write-ups have been fire. Great job. It is crazy to think that Kuehner is probably something like 15th or 16th in line to start games in the bigs for us (didnt count it out). I feel like a guy with a sub 3 era and really good k numbers should be a top 30 prospect, just more evidence how stacked our system is. I am not sure how to feel about Payne, obviously he has a lot of time to progress. I kind of thought he would be a contact guy who develops power in a year or two. It seems like the power is way ahead of the contact at this moment. It is also easy to forget how super young he was when drafted (doesn't turn 19 for like a month). I like that he has the ability to make quick changes to he setup and swing, it bodes well for him as a hard working teachable kid. Murray has that feel of utility IF, I think he is a guy in a couple years gets a shot with a different team in the bigs. I like him a lot but the overcrowding is going to make it hard for him to get a shot with us.
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With Rhys out the next month the deadline plans become even more tricky. We really need a power bat in my opinion but with Rhys due back we would want there to be a spot for everyone in August and hopefully the playoffs. After Woody's performance today we clearly have the most pitching depth in the league, with Myers, Henderson, Patrick, Cortes, and if you count Gasser or CarRod that would probably be a top 20ish rotation in the league. With maybe a need to support 3B, SS, 1B, and LF there could be many options. EugenioSuarez is probably the obvious answer at this point he can help at 3B, probably play some 1B and DH some if Yeli plays more LF. Wilyer Abreu or Jarren Duran could be interesting players as well. Ryan O'Hearn would fit pretty well also because he can play 1st/OF as well. Chad Patrick, Rhys Hoskins, and Cooper Pratt for Wilyer Abreu and Aroldis Chapman Eugenio Suarez for Brett Wichrowski, Juan Baez, and Nestor Cortes (can be flipped if dbacks want. Then next offseason get the best higher level SS prospect for Pratt. I would hate to give up Pratt however.
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Josh Jung Optioned to AAA
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I don't think we necessarily need a Senior at 68. It kind of depends on how much money the team needs to save or possible if there are still a lot of HS talent that is sliding and we want to rake them later. At 68, we should still target a decent college prospect unless we over reached a bit early and got a HS stud at Comp or 2nd. I am thinking we should go after a guy kind of like Boeve, a slight risk but an almost certainty to sign decently under slot.
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I feel like if Seigler has a nice week or so that it would make it easier to give Contreras the need IL stint over the allstar break. I doubt McGee doesn't stay longer then a few days for when Woody comes back. I wouldn't mind going to a 6 man for a couple passes until we get a better picture of Woody. Perkins for Mone in a week or two then would make sense as well.
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Hardin has really been a mirror image of KC Hunt last year. Hopefully we can get Hint back on track and keep Hardin going. I do think that he is starting to jump all of the AA starters in terms of prospect status even though Wichrowski and Kuehner have been solid. I am not as high on Hedbert as the rest of you. Outside of the power I just don't see his skills working out well. At 5'10", he packs a wallop but I doubt he gets more consistent. He isn't fast and is hitting .233 (career .229). I am not opposed to bringing him back next year but I just don't see him developing into anything more than a 4th OF (Jake Bauers minus 1st base ability). I love our 2024 (and 23) HS picks. I think all of Dubanewicz, Renz, Dorchies, Tobias,Hayden Robinson, and Bjorn Johnson (probably forgetting someone) all are finding some consistency and doing a good job of setting themselves up for big offseason. If they can add a mph or two, sharpen up braking balls they all could be big prospect risers next year like Letson.
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