jay87shot

Our rotation is looking really strong right now. Patrick and Freddy have been strong all year, Preister is coming around with Civale and Q coming back strong (hopefully). Add in Hall looking really sharp and Woody, Henderson, and Misi, Myers there is plenty of upside and innings to be had.

Wowie zowie, off Luzardo none the less who was in the Cy young conversation before today.

Everything is starting to look up pitching is getting healthy and now the entire pen essentially got 2 days off. In the last 10 games Durbin brought his average from .159 to .213 and Yeli .184 to .220 in 7 games (with power). Has there been any Mitchell or Perkins updates? I feel like both should be on rehab like last week by initial timelines.

Agree, it is to difficult to gauge with the 10 or so options. I would love to just go Peralta and rookies Patrick, Henderson, Misi, Priester (maybe not rookie) with CarRod, Myers, and eventually Gasser as depth. However that isn't wise as most of those guys will have some innings limit. I want to give Woody as much of a chance as possible and I think Civale and Quintana will be consistent and needed as much as possible. We really could support 2 rotations. old) Peralta, Woody, Quintana, Civale, Cortez, Alexander young) Patrick, Henderson, Misi, Myers, Preister, CarRod, Gasser (Hall and Ashby possibly as well) That is crazy depth.

Alexander is making just a million, I am not saying we would get much of anything but with all the pitching shortages and his track record there should be a small market. Civale had 3.57 ERA after we traded for him and 3.00 era in the 2 starts since he has been off the DL. His 8 million dollar salary would play into it but is only a problem for a few teams and we could likely eat most of it since it is budgeted. Civale may have more trade value in a week or two than last year with a couple good starts.

Within the next week I expect a trade coming with Woody and Quintana coming back. Tyler Alexander would be the obvious first candidate, he is good enough for someone to want him but not really get anything valuable back. With Hall and Ashby back Alexander and Rob Z are the easy 2 to get rid of as 4th and 5th lefties from the pen. Civale could be an option as well plenty of teams need a vet starter. The Astros have a ton of injury issues and not a ton of depth. Shay Whitcomb would be a great return, they can have Rob Z or Alexander if they want as well.

Great win today, exciting series. Durbin has been sneaky good the past week or so. Here's to fixing our road issue in Philly after a much deserved day off.

I am really excited for this one, a sweep of the Sox would be huge and 1 game over .500 feels so much better than 1 under. On a different note, I read something that I think was on the brewers website but I couldn't find it to quote anything. Essentially it said with Quintana and Woody getting close the team has some tough choses on who goes to AAA. It made it sound like the team was going to do everything it could not to use up Priester's last option and that Murphy or at least a coach had talked to Patrick about the possibility of being sent down. I can understand sending Henderson down to a small degree with just wanting to keep his workload down and some past injury concerns. However if we send down Patrick and leave Tyler Alexander, Rob Z, and Priester on the big league club over Patrick and Henderson, I will straight up lose it. Just a warning, I will straight up lose all my marbles.

Someone wrote that Lara's hot streak is painting him more in the light of a prospect like Sal Frelick where as when the season started most of us would have had him more of a 4th OF like Perkins. I agree with that idea, you think he can be a .270-.300 hitter he becomes super valuable as a prospect, so like a 55-60 grade contact. I think I would have said he had a 45 hit tool before the season started and probably would move that up to a 50 at this point, if he can hot like this for another month and a half I would think a 55 hit tool would be warranted. When giving him a 60+ grade on speed and defense at 20 in AA he then should get plenty of top 100 consideration. I would say right now he is pushing the top 10 in our organization after being around the 20 spot before the season and through the 1st month or so, Dinges is a bit tricky to feel out prospect status, the bat was tremendous but just looking offensively he should have went straight to A+ with his college pedigree. With him catching it made sense to have him in Carolina and work on defense. With the gains he has shown it looks like he is going to be able to be at least a passible defender given a couple years. With how good our system is at working on catchers defensively I wouldn't be surprised if he becomes a plus defender with the big arm. I think there are two questions here, 1) How will he hold up to a full season of catching? Basically will he continue to hit well as his legs get tired during the long haul of the year. and 2) Will he be able to adapt to better pitching? It's only been a week or so but he has struggled more with the bat than in A ball. I would probably say he is starting to push the top 20 of our team rankings, a couple good weeks in Appleton would solidify that. I don't think it would be crazy to think he can be a top 10 org prospect that could be pushing the league top 100 if he hits around .300 with 15ish HR power and quickly improving defense by the end of the year especially if he can get a AA prmotion by the end of the year. Flores fits into a category that most of our Latino pitchers do at his age, if he can get his fastball up to 95 consistently he can have bright future. He looks very smooth with decent secondary pitches and has the body to add some weight/strength.

It would seem Quero is ready for a more difficult placement. I like the idea of a week in Appleton and then up to AAA. Juan Ortuno had a big game, his 3rd HR. He now has 14bb to 11k and his obp is over .450 even if his batting average isn't very sexy.

I think Turang was probably hitting over .300 at this point of the season last year and struggled around the all-star break for a month or so. Hopefully he can just stay consistent, it seems like he is the best when he is looking to go the opposite way. His defense is starting to get back to gold glove levels as well especially after a little shaky 1st month (not bad, just not a last years standard), He is probably on pace for a borderline 5 WAR season again. Seeing how the left side of the IF looks it might be a good idea to see if we can get a long term deal done, I think at this point I am safe on saying he is a good bet to hit .250-.300 with high end baserunning and defense for the next 6+ years. There is some power starting to peak through however only 5 doubles 1/3 of the way through the year is worrisome, Something like Ke'Bryan Hayes 8/70 would seem like a deal at this point say 5, 7.5, 10 for the arby years and then like 3/42 (14 per) after that would come out to 6/64.5.

What would a half year of Rhys get us? Him hitting .287/.387/.467 with an ops at 139 should get a really solid prospect but maybe last year and the missed 2023 brings it done a smidge. I would guess the return would be similar to what the guardians got for Josh Naylor (P Slade Cecconi and a COMP B pick). With 3/4 teams needing a bat really bad and not much available from the bottom 6-8 teams in the league a little bidding war could get a 3rd piece. I would guess if we are in a similar postion in the standings to where we are now or worse he will be traded. With Bauers, EMJ, and then Adams/Boeve/Wilken around getting a couple good pieces and save a bunch of cash is how we operate.

How long is it until we here if Payamps gets traded, pickup by another team, or excepts a demotion to AAA (I think those are the options? My thought is a week (from the 22nd). With the number of teams needing bullpen help I would think there would be a trade that at least saves the amount of money we still owe him this year.

What would everyone's end of the year rotation preference be, just straight 5 man. I think Misi and Henderson will both be in the bullpen as they hit innings limits. 1)Freddy 2)Woody 3) Patrick 4) Priester 5)Quintana I really hope Gasser can get all the way back and make it back to the big league staff. It seems like the organization is determined to keep Priester there so hopefully he can continue to make small progressions like it seemed happened in his last start. I still think to make a playoff run we will need Woody to come back strong. Quintana has shown more than Civale or Cortes so he gets 5. My bullpen would be Megill, Uribe, Yoho, Mears, Koenig (gets it back together), Ashby, Hall, Misi, Henderson in that instance allowing us to turn excess arms into usable pieces.

I would think more than Soto because he is controllable longer. Basically they would get to pick like 6 prospect after Made if you asked me a price (not that I would do that).

I think we would all prefer not to sell because it means this team would be successful over the next 6-8 weeks. I think that there is a pretty defined line when we get close to the deadline, it is how far from the Cubs (or Cards) we are. With the Phillies, Mets, Dodgers, Padres, and Giants and then the D-backs, Braves, and our division teams fight it out I don't think the odds of getting a wild card are great (possible yes). If we are more than 5 games back I would sell the 1 year guys and entertain quality offers on Freddy and MeGill. I do think that we should make some early season moves here in the next month of so that will turn some excess pitching into a 3B/SS option. I wouldn't really call that buying or selling if it happens in the next couple weeks. I doubt any of our 1 year pitchers have a chance to get us a comp pick at this point. With how well the young guys have pitched and Hall, Ashby, and hopefully Gasser coming back II do think that there will be some buying and selling if we are kind of in a similar position standings wise as we are now. Sell short term guys, add younger controllable players.

I would be OK with Arcia, he probably would be better than Mone as a utility and there is at least a little power. If he is going good he could put together a good month or so.

I would guess he meant Shane Smith.

I like the idea of someone like Ronny Mauricio. The Mets have a bench of infield depth and before the injury he was a 5 tool highly exciting prospect. At the very least he is a top notch utility guy but he can play SS and 3B. I don't know what the Mets would want. Josh Smith would be OK but probably pretty expensive. IKF would be trade target at this point but Lara is to much. For IKF maybe like Mark Manfrdi if they eat some cash maybe a bit better like Kuehner Urias for Black wouldn't be bad but I would guess they would want pitching. KC Hunt, Cornielle, Birchard, or Kuehner and a lotto guy in rookie ball.

Ortiz and Durbin went 6 for 6 and Yelich seems to be getting on track. Yes it stinks to think that last night we were thinking about getting back to .500 and we dropped two tough ones. But if those 3 can get back on track those positives will long outway the bad taste of this one. I think it is time to say goodbye to Tyler Alexander. DL Hall is ready, Yoho and Jay are pitching well to be taxi guys at least. Woody and Quintana will need roster spots back soon (probably missing a rehab guy as well). Guys like Alexander end up being a dime a dozen at this point in his career.

If Birchard can keep the walks down like today I think he could quickly become a Logan Henderson level prospect.

I won't disagree but my guess is Made and Pena will be July promotions. Wilken yes please, it would appear Hardin needs on as well, That rookie ball is really promising and we continue to have a couple guys a week like Frederi Montero and Handlefry Encarnacion just becoming valuable prospects that no one really was even counting on before the year.

Yeah straight to the pen wouldn't make sense. I like the idea of piggybacking him with someone that way we can keep him stretched out and reduce innings so that he could be available for a playoff run if need be. I read posted somewhere else that the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel had an article speculating that the club might be dragging it's feet on a promotion until June 6th or as late as possible to eventually avoid super 2 status and save money through the arbitration process.

I agree with the 2nd two parts but I believe a true ace will always bring there best stuff and up their game against the best in the game. I agree a true ace should always dominate the current Pirates but there is a big difference between 6 innings 2 runs and like 6 k's and like 7+ innings 0 runs and 10 k's especially when going against Skenes and with our bullpen overworked.

Right now the bullpen is overworked and our starters are having a rough time getting though 5 innings or at least are not getting into the 6th. Woody and Civale (yesterday) are coming back but won't have a full workload for a few starts at least. Also Henderson and eventually Misi are going to have to have innings limit at some point this year. I love that we used a piggyback situation yesterday and would propose that the team actually put in a couple piggy back situations into play maybe for most of June. Here is how I would organize my staff and pen. The numbers are just the current order not how I would slot our starters by rank. Current) 1)Peralta 2)Preister 3) Henderson 4) Patrick 5)Ciavale/CarRod Other options) Myers, Woody, Misi, Hall, Ashby, Alexander 1)Peralta 2)Woody 5 innings/Hall 2-3 innings 3)Henderson 4-5/Misi 4-5 4)Patrick 5)Civale 5/Ashby or CarRod 2-3 pen Ashby, Hall, Misi, Mears, Anderson, Koenig, Uribe, Megill In this option I would have 3 piggybacks, if Hall and/or Ashby can get out of there 2-3 innings in like 30-40 pitches it would open them up for an innings a few days after they pitch or it would make a bullpen day easy to plan if maybe Woody, Henderson, or Civale go 6+ in there 75-80 pitches. If need be we could taxi Myers or Priester back and forth to also help a bullpen day for Hall. That really only leaves a 5 man bullpen plus a couple maybes in Hall or Ashby with extra work. However in theory those 5 would only need to cover a max 2 innings a game 3 times a week and 3-4 twice a week. It would also be easy to move Misi or Ashby/CarRod back or forward a day to cover Patrick if need be. Basically I want to see how everyone would manage this staff when we are healthy in like a week.