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I would be most interested in possibly adding Devin Williams back at a low-rate with some incentives. He won't get a big multi year deal with his year he had. However his numbers have been pretty good 2.89 FIP, 13 k/9, 3.8 bb/9. If we could do like 1/6 with incentives to 12-14 I think that would be smart of Devin and fit our needs well if it is in the 8th or 9th. I also like possibly adding a high end arm, specifically Edward Cabrera if the cost isn't to high. Maybe like Pratt/Quero, Patrick, and Wilken for Cabrera? It would be a risk but he is a guy that won't cost a lot and could be filthy for a couple years, maybe even open to a team friendly extension.

From the offseason thread it seems like most of us are in agreement that it will be a generally slow offseason and not a lot of roster changes are needed. However most would be in favor of adding a high quality bat or arm for the right price. I thought we could make a list of potential big names that could make sense to trade (or sign) for. I am going to have an extended list here that likely DH/C- None Unless we get an overwhelming offer for Contreras or Yeli the will be no need for a big names. 1B- Very Unlikely With Vaughn under control for next year I doubt that a 1B acquisition makes sense, Cody Bellinger with his ability to play 1B and OF would be the only realistic big name that I could see being an option. Pete Alonso and Yandy Diaz are maybe big names but make less sense than Belly. IF- This one has some range. Trades = Jose Ramirez, CJ Abrams, Zach Neto, Ozzie Albies, Brandon Lowe, Marcus Semien, Nolan Arenado, Matt Chapman??? FA= Alex Bregman, Bo Bichette, Luis Arraez, Eugenio Suarez. Some of those names aren't really upgrades like Albies, Arenado, or Arraez but are big names that could be dealt, a bunch of them will likely be way to expensive (Bichette/Bregman), or just really unlikely to be traded (Rameriz, Neto, Abrams). OF- Again a decent depth of names, maybe a better list of trade candidates Trades= Steven Kwan, Jarren Duran (other Boston OF), Luis Robert (if cut/FA), Daulton Varsho, Bryan Reynolds, Byron Buxton, FA=Belly, Harrison Bader, Trent Grisham SP- We have plenty of depth but I could see a sneaky trade for a controllable top of the rotation arm in the right circumstance. I doubt we would sign a big name but there are a couple discount names that could be of interest. Trades= Edward Cabrera, Sandy Alcantara, Joe Ryan, MacKenzie Gore, Drew Rasmussen, Pablo Lopez, Free Agents- Shane Bieber, Zach Gallen, Justin Verlander RP- I doubt we would trade a whole lot away for a reliever but if we have some money a free agent might make sense. Trade-Pete Fairbanks, Padres reliever, ??? FA- Devin Williams, Michael Kopech, Tyler Rogers, Kenley Jansen

Great point, I forgot he is a minor league free agent. If I was his agent I would look to switch organizations for sure, my guess is that in like half the organizations he would be in the top 10 of depth charts to be a starter next year. If we don't add any veterens I would put him around our 15th starter next year (counting Hall, Ashby, Thomas).

Wow, Wichrowski back close to 100 is impressive this late in the year. Hopefully he is ok and can still pitch in the AFL. Looks like Letson had a quality outing as well. I am kind of thinking Wichrowski's best path might be as a reliever. If he can throw 100 in shorter stints with is high end sweeper there is a high end pitcher. Especially with our organizational pitching depth, I would transition him there until maybe the end of next year however if it stills seems reasonable.

More and more I am agreeing with this. Traditionally I have like the trade players with 1 year of control and maximize the return. However with the farm system being pretty muchly a top 3-5 system across the league getting a couple young players isn't as valuable as usual. Add in that the staff would be very unexperienced without him and it should be easier to keep him unless someone just gives up way to much.

It seems like he is keeping everyone fresh, hopefully all our injuried pitchers get back and have some innings the last couple weeks to get in a grove for the playoffs.

I don't mind Chourio in center if Collins and Sal are playing plus defense in the corners. Bader isn't a bad option but his offense career has been so inconsistent that is a risk. Chourio, Sal, Collins, Perk, Mitchell, and Yeli is really great OF and if someone like Black gets the 1B platoon that adds to the OF depth. I would think it is more likely we would trade someone like Perkins away especially as Lara gets closer and we add some new AAA OF depth if Cameron and Olivia leave. I wouldn't mind adding an OF but if we do it might mean trading Collins or an IF and then moving Collins to 2B/3B. I would prefer that if we go for a big trade acquistion it be at SS/3B, I think overall there can be a bigger improvement at those spots.

I kind of like the idea of Seigler being the backup catcher the 1st month and then bringing Quero up to save the year of arbitration. In the first month, I would guess Seigler would only start 1 maybe 2 games so I wouldn't think we would need to sign anyone. If we could find someone like Alfaro/Haase to catch in AAA and give good depth that would be great. With Contreras set to catch like 130 games every year spending resources on a catcher doesn't make a lot of sense. I also think having Quero being the backup in the bigs all year and getting like 100-150 pa isn't idea either. With Dinges and Matt Wood we do have some decent youth not to far away so trading Quero for a big bat is always an option since Contreras likely won't be going anywhere this year.

I know it isn't exciting but I am completely fine with adding no big names and just running it back. For me there are 2 big decisions, #1 being trading Freddy and #2 taking a big swing on a bat. The rest would be possibly resigning guys (Woody) and extensions If we trade Freddy I would love to go to an 8 man 4 day double piggyback rotation. I think we have the depth and the front office has the foresight to be revolutionary. I know I have proposed this like 3 or 4 time in the past. 1)Priester/Hall It was great early in the year, run it back. 2)Misi/Gasser Gasser is the most finasse lefty we have to slot in here with the Mis 3)Henderson/Ashby I think the power of Ashby after the high volume of changeup from Henderson would work well. 4)2 of Myers, Patrick, Pitcher for Freddy, CarRod, cheap FA vet (I be good with Q back, if not hurt), others I think that could really save the bullpen and would make it easy to go back and forth beween a 5/6 man rotation if there are injuries. By keeping everyone around 60-65 pitches they shouldn't over extend anyone and it is easy to call up a player from the minors here or there to start a game in the middle of a long stretch. With 5 guys in the pen you can rotate through guys easily especially if you only need to cover 2 innings a game on average. Also we should have really solid AAA pitching depth with Crow, Hardin, Hunt, Cornielle, Wichrowski, and more if need be (and on 40 man).

I agree with the general sentiment that I am ok with Ortiz, I like the idea of having Mone as a late game ph in big spots.

I think I am unofficially bumping Burke up my 1st base depth chart ahead of Adams, Boeve, and Wilken. It is going to be interesting to see how they organize the likes of Adams, Boeve, Burke, Wilken, Black, EMJ??, and others for next year (Fischer hot on there heels). All are likely deserving of AAA, my guess is Burke starts in AA just to avoid an issue. I really like Adams getting OF reps so that a 2027 Adams/Burke platoon with Adams capable of 3B and OF would be a perfect pairing.

I know in my heart that this is likely going to be true but am going to keep dreaming of that Gimenez style deal. In reality, a near .300 hitter with a borderline 20/30 year and glove glove defense, who is only getting better is going to get big bank in free agency. Maybe he would be a Yelich style extension candidate in like 2 years with Yeli close to done and Made possibly ready for a Chourio style deal.

Love the Yoho and Gasser statement, it feels like Fedde and Payamps (maybe Rob Z even) don't have much future with the club and this point of the year would be a perfect time to get a better look at the 2 young arms. Especially since both have some upside to be useful in a playoff series where I can't see Fedde or Payamps being more than soaking up a innings in a blowout. Yesterday would have been a great game to get both guys some meaningful work had they been on the big league club.

Is it time to think about switching Pratt to 3B or with Made moving up so quick do we just trade Pratt to sidestep an issue. I don't have an issue with Made playing 2B the rest of the week but he would seem to have the best path to the bigs and maximum value at SS (unless Turang moves to SS, not against). Pratt defensively is better but Made's bat probably will force the organization to figure out the IF configuration future sooner than later.

https://www.mlb.com/news/2025-arizona-fall-league-rosters Full list as far as I can tell P=Broca, Anthony Flores, Fowler, Jimenez, Wichrowski Bats=Dinges, Josh A, Adams I am pretty happy with this list, it would have been nice to maybe get another bat maybe an OF in there. Maybe Adams or Josh A. could get some reps in the OF to better diversify there defensive potentials.

I hope not, I don't disagree with any off your points. You can add in that attendance is relatively the same (24=31,323 25=32,111) despite the added excitement towards the team. I would think that with us losing salary from Rhys, Cortes, and Q (we actually owe Woody more next year than this year because of a $10 miliion dollar buyout of a mutual option) will be offset by arbitration raises for the most part. With Chourio and Ashby getting a little more money on their deals as well. I haven't done any math but was guessing there isn't much wriggle room to go down without trading Peralta and/or William (among others).

I am sure it comes down to how much they project payroll in say 2028 or 2029. With Yeli thru 28 and Chourio longer we can probably only extend 1 or 2 morr unless payroll boons.

Is there anyone in the mold of Cody Bellinger that could be a Bauers type upgrade that would pair with Vaughn and be a 4th/5th OF'er? Luis Arraez has some utility but no OF help, unless Turang goes to SS, I don't think that works. Any ideas, I guess Bauers back would be passible but I think there could be an upgrade. Ryan O'Hearn would be a better bat but defensively isn't great. I can't think of any cheaper great trade options.

I know it has been brought up but Gimenez is an easy comp., being older I would just add in a couple different options. Do something like 4/54 5,10,15,24 with a 2 year team option for 2030-31 24 each. That comes to 6/102 and Turang could be a free agent at 32 having made $100 million. I like the same idea for Sal at a bit lower price 4/ 4,7, 12, 14 with a 2/32 million team option for a 6/67 extension. Priester, Henderson, and Misi could all be extension candidates if we could get Freddy/Ashby style deals (bigger for Misi and Preister more expensive). Uribe and Koenig could be interesting bullpen arms for saving long term money as well.

That Meccage clip is nioce, an explosive 95 mph and the breaking pitches are really crisp and nasty. Give him, Knoth, Letson, ManRod, Melvin, Dorchies, Dubs, Renz, Tobias, Bjorn, and some of the new draftees a couple years and I guarantee like 4 of those guys will be top 100 prospects.

What is up with Fischer at 8 SB in 15 games, is he a lot faster than scouts gave him credit for or is it a case of pitchers not respecting him and he is being opportunistic. If he can even be a 50 grade runner that greatly improves his prospect status (40 grade on mlb.com).

I like Game 1 Freddy, Game 2 Woody (if he recovers some), Game 3 Priester, Game 4 planned bullpen game 1-3 innings Misi (out at 1st struggles), 2-5 Quintana, bullpen as needed. If we start Misi I would cap it. I wouldn't be opposed to bringing him in as a reliever in a big spot if we were down a run or two, I probably wouldn't risk it if we were ahead.

I think it kind of depends on what the offers are for Freddy, if someone gives us a mlb ready top 50/75 high potential arm (and more), I would still probably trade Freddy if it is a Burnes like deal quantity over quality I would likely pass and just take the pick at the end of the year. Where are we on 1st base next year? I am still likely on the bring Vaughn back for a year side of things, however if continues the rest of the way like he has hit the last couple weeks, I would be worried about keeping him. Burke and Adams (Wilken) are still a 1/2 season away from being ready and EMJ hasn't taken off like a bunch of us thought at the beginning of the year (or Black). Long term, I love the idea of Burke and Adams platooning 1st maybe Adams can learn to play a little OF (I think he is done with 3B) since we will have Yeli at DH for the foreseeable future.

At this point, Gasser, Henderson, and Quero are the only guys likely to graduate next year (Black/CarRod/EMJ not on most lists). Obviously the some of the talent in AA will have a chance at some point to be in the bigs next years. Add in all the HS talent from the last 3 drafts and likely a few nice int. signings and next year could be one of the most insane minor league systems.

Jesus Made Has proved to be legit in A+, could a last week of the season AA peek be in store if he keeps it up ala Chourio.Luis Pena I am not worried by the slow start in Appleton, 1 good week and his stat line will be back.Cooper Pratt I had him trending towards like 5 but 2 strong weeks plus have restored my top 50 overall prospect.Jeferson Quero He has really blasted some high exit velo hits the past couple weeks, it looks like the bat is as good as ever. It's really going to be hard not to have him be William's backup next year. Maybe you can keep him down a month just to gain the extra year of control.Logan Henderson The injury stinks but he would probably be on a pretty strict innings pitch limit anyway. He has proven more than enough to get a rotation spot next year.Luke Adams It would be nice to see him back this year however the upside is real and proven at this point. The in game power had started to come through and his elite on base skills haven't diminished as he has climbed.Luis Lara It is time to give Lara some credit, at 20 in AA he is just to good not to be in the top 10, elite speed and defense with an improving bat. Braylon Payne I gave him the nod over Dinges and Fischer based on age here, he has shown enough to validate the 1st round selection but as expected getting some consistency will be the next big step.Marco Dinges Dinges has been ok since coming off the injury list, hopefully he can get back to mashing.Andrew Fischer I don't know what to think of Fischer's debut so far, he is stealing some bases which I wouldn't have guessed however to bat isn't explosive yet.Bishop Letson It is good to see him back off the injured list and pitching well, it would be nice to see him healthy the rest of the way.Blake Burke It is hard to ignore how good he has been in AA, if he can stay hot the rest of the way he could be an option for some top 100 lists. I wanted to move him up even more but maybe need another week or 2.Josh Adamczewski If he can stay healthy another guy who could make a big jump in the rankings by the end of the year.Brock Wilken The beginning of the season is enough for him to hold in this range while injured. It's stinks he and Adams aren't healthy to get some AAA run this year and possibly be an option for the club at the beginning of next year. Brady Ebel Just being in A ball shows how much the club believes in him, he had some hits this weekend to prove he isn't overmatched.Robert Gasser Gasser has looked strong, he should provide some valueable innings for the big league club soon, maybe taking a role like DL Hall has had.Eric Bitonti I have dropped him the most in my ranking since last month (I think had like 7th/8th), with his streakiness he could rocket up quickly. It's easy to forget he is still 19 and with his big frame consistency may take some more time. Ethan Dorchies His strikeout numbers put him a bit ahead of the other young HS pitchers from 2024. I have Dubaniwicz a bit lower but the 2 man wrecking crew is hard to beat.JD Thompson I would be nice to see him for a few outings this year, I am interested to see what the club does with his stuff. It sounds like the fastball/change are plus but the breaking pitcher need some work to get to the next level.Craig Yoho It's hard to ignore a 0.88 era in AAA, I would like to see him get another chance in the bigs. I still think he is a huge bullpen piece for us for a long time, 21-30 Kuehner, Hardin, Meccage, Dubanewicz, Crow, Wichrowski, Melvin Henandez, Manny Rodriguez, Cairone, Knoth All pitchers who have shown the ability to be big time guys if they can just harness small improvements to stuff, control, or injuries. For me this part of our system is what makes our minor league organization better than anyone else's. 31-40 Boeve, DeBerry, Dickinson, Antunez, Fenelon, Morrison, CarRod, Black, Hunt, Anderson I haven't given up on CarRod or Black however they do need to have a nice end of the season to continue to ensure 40 man roster spots. 41-50 Di Turri, Encarnacion, Woodward, Bjorn Johnson, Birchard, Renz, Tobias, Flores, Matt Wood, CJ Hughes