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Interesting, I still think it should be Yelich should play there alot. In my opinion we just split DH between a bunch of players, Yeli 60, Hoskins 40, Contreras 20, Black 20, 22 extra OF/hot bench player. If we add someone Justin Turner would be perfect 3B/2B/1B/DH obviously money would be an issue but maybe we could shed some money by dumping Bauers, Rae (not sure if he can be traded), bullpen extras. On the cheaper end Gio Ursheala might make similar sense, trading an OF like Weimer or Mitchell for a IF would make sense to maybe Jorge Polanco and a prospect or a blocked young player who is ready.

I feel like having it on Prime will make it more accessible for the younger fan, in my experience more young people are skipping cable and just picking up streaming sites. For me personally, I don't have cable spend about $40 a month and have a monsterbox that is free and gives me all (literally all of them including free pay per view) the cable channels for free.

It's a small sample size but Hoskins has absolutely been a beast in Miller/AAF. .342/.405/.790 5 HR in 9 games What a crazy Wisconsin sports day. Brewers sign Hoskins, Bucks fire Griffin, Packers just fired Joe Berry (and Jaire Alexander posted a thank you to Green Bay assuming he is going to be traded).

Such a big get, I thought he was going to the Cubs for sure. Any chance we could add a high end starter on the cheap. Trevor Bauer is on my mind but could Shane Bieber (say Weimer and a couple lower prospects) be cheap enough. Maybe just get Woody back. I wouldn't mind taking a run at Jorge Polanco as well. We could offset salary by trading some relievers, Bauers, others. This signing changes my entire outlook on the next couple weeks. Nice

Oh he'll yes. I was getting worried. Yes yes yes.

Keeping Willy makes sense, we won't get much more value than a comp. pick at this point. Odds are that he should hit better than last year and then be worth the 50 million and get that pick. Still hoping there is a team that will give us an acceptable trade for Burnes after Snell and Montgomery sign. Montgomery to SF, Snell to NYY. Then Rangers get Burnes and Payamps for Brock Porter, Owen White, Abrimalec Ortiz, and Marc Church Trade Weimer/Mitchell, Bryse Wilson, and Freddy Zamora for Josh Naylor Elvis Peguaro for Jonathan Aranda Edit: Nevermind getting Hoskins changes my mind on trading Burnes, full steam ahead.

Was just looking at the Chapman move. I know they only spend 70-80 million a year. They have added Martin Perez, Marco Gonzalez, Chapman, and Rowdy. Nothing special but for the Pirates that is a lot.

It's bad when your jealous of the Pirates spending prowess. There bullpen is really good now and there rotation is passable (no top of rotation guys). There lineup could be solid if Reynolds, Cruz. Henry Davis (among others) meet expectations.

If his future is in a bullpen it probably isn't here, he will never get a shotbwith our depth. It would stink to lose him but he is an easy to replace AAA depth pitcher. Good luck, hope he has a couple good years and gets a legit big league shot. On an unrelated note, what ever happened to Taylor Jungman? His baseball reference page doesn't have any foreign stats after he left us.

I think maybe you try and make something work in 2025 but in reality that won't work. I am sure Contreras could be a passible 1B but he is 26 and was on of the best catchers in the league last year. You don't move a high caliber young catcher to a new position unless there is no way to sign him. Maybe in 2025 you have each guy play 80 games at catcher, Contreras gets say 60 DH games (a few at 1st) and Quero DH's here and there for extra PT. Clarke platoons at 1st and only catches if one of the two is DH'ing and the other catching gets injuried. I think the logical thing to do is to swap Quero for similarly blocked young bat at some point next offseason and sign cheaper vets to back up Contreras. I wouldn't be a bad idea to draft a good young catcher early this year in case we trade Quero and then can't sign Contreras by 2027/2028. The only way Quero is the long term catcher is if Contreras get hurt, really stinks this year (not happening), or is an MVP candidate and works his way into a 30+ million dollar contract we can't afford. If Contreras goes .300/.400/.900 with like 30 HR's and high quality catching we probably do want to keep Quero and trade Contreras after 2025.

I would love to get full value for Burnes now, I feel like we should get a top 50 prospect, borderline top 100, and a solid 3rd piece. At the deadline we would be lucky to get a top 50 and 2 throw in pieces, if we add a bat or two and legit make an effort to go for it I am fine keeping him. However I am not sure if the current team warrants the lost value by keeping him to August. Trading Freddie should get a value of what we traded Yeli for. Brinson was a top 30 prospect, Diaz and Harrison were borderline top 100 prospects, and Yamamoto was a solid mid-tier young pitching prospect. Basallo/Mayo, Norby, Ortiz, McCormick would be similar (not sure we would want Norby and Ortiz), just Basallo and Mayo would be fine for me as well. I still think there is a cool 3 team trade to be had with SF and SD, I've posted before. Bogeartz to SF Burnes, Peguaro, Weimer/Mitchell to SD we get Jackson Merrill, Robby Snelling, and Carson Wisenhunt. The Giants get a star, the Pads drop payroll, get an ace, and depth, we get 3 really high end prospect that all could be ready in 2025. (yes the pads would need to find a long term SS, Kim would play there this year).

For position players/starters I usually want a player to have 10 years of being a top 3-5 player at their position (top 10 for pitchers) to go along with a 15+ year career. K- Rod does probably fit that discription 2004-2011 he was a top closer and then again 2014-2016, he played 16 years. So I vote yes, relievers just make it hard, a career 24 WAR is nothing compared to other positions. Usually a player needs around 60 WAR career to be considered.

What about a 1/2 of trade for Jorge Polanco sign Brandon Belt. Weimer/Mitchell for Polanco and P Cory Lewis. Belt 1/14 (incentive + team option) 1) DH/LF Yeli 2)2B/3B Polanco 3)1B/DH Belt 4) C Contreras 5) SS Adames 6) OF Frelick 7) OF Chourio 8)3B/1B Black 9)OF Mitchell While it's in my head could a Burnes to the Twins work? I no they are cutting payroll but are in the easiest division and need an ace. We could take on Polanco to offset salary. Burnes, Weimer, Peguero for Brooks Lee, Jorge Polanco, Marco Raya, David Festa, and Kyle Farmer (trade Farmer elsewhere). The Twins get Weimer and Peguero to offset 1 year of Burnes. We add in a bit motre to prospect up for Lee and add 2 of their best young pitchers. Money is close, we could get a decent mid range prospect for Farmer at some point. We could maybe sign a vet starter on a 1 year deal to make up not getting a big league pitcher back.

I am not huge on Chapman, it would fit the double down move of Yeli/Cain. France would be great but he isn't great defensively (at least last year) at 1st doesn't seem to be Arnold's MO. I'd prefer to give up an OF and get something back rather than Turang + Adams. My ask would be Weimer for France and Prelander Berroa (one of my favorite sleeper prospects).

Does he start in A ball or get say a month to train 1st and debut in late May-Early-June? He doesn't until the end of the season so we don't have to rush him but it would be nice to get 70-80 innings this year.

I feel like Rodriguez can be a solid 3. His command needs to get a bit better but I think he can be a Marcus Stroman type starter. Obviously they are perfect matches, but someone in the mold of not overpowering but gets the job done consistently (a gamer).

Ramirez has been a poor fielder his entire career which has weakened his value. He only play 92 innings in the field last year (25 at 1B). As a DH he probably has better value than the site lists (especially if they haven't updated it). I still would even want to give up Mitchell for him to be honest. Soler would add some much needed pop, but I wouldnt sign him to more than a 1 year deal with a generous club option. He is just so streaky he worries me. The best go for it get for me would be to move Yeli to 1st. Trade Payamps to Balt. for 2B Connor Norby, sign Justin Turner DH/3B/1B 1)LF Frelick 2)C Contreras 3)1B Yeli 4)DH Turner 5) SS Adames 6)RF Mitchell 7) CF Chourio 8)2B Norby/Turang 9)3B Black/Norby Turner allows lots of movement between positions, maybe Adames plays some 3rd. Obviously we are still resistant to Yeli at 1st so this is useless.

I read that the Yankees are looking to bolster their bullpen. Since we have so much depth I thought it would be a good idea to start a relief thread. I doubt the Yankees would want Devin but Clay Holmes is maybe better suited for the 8th on a championship team. Yankee ideas= Replace Burnes to Yanks trades with Williams= I like Hampton, Lombard, Clayton Beeter Payamps/Milner for Oswald Peraza, Carlos Legrange, and Danny Watson or Will Warren and Danny Watson Wilson, Peguaro for 2 of the previous mentioned players (Peraza, Selvidge, Watson) The Payamps/Milner deal gives us plenty of 2nd tier player value. Peraza has been solid in the minors (poor in the show), Lagrange is a young high potential guy, and Watson is a big funky reliever with solid results or the Warren/Watson deal gives us a higher end prospect closer to the bigs. What are some other teams looking for relief help: Phily, Houston, Toronto, Texas, Mets, Cubs, Padres, mostly everyone hoping to have a good year.

I don't think it is that much hate for Cooper it is just disappointment that we are going cheap again and hoping for rebounds from guys who are coming off of down years. Especially when our hitting department really hasn't shown the ability to improve players. No one can argue Cooper wouldn't be an upgrade, just not as big as anyone hoped.

I feel like I keep forgetting about Ashby, any news on him this offseason. Starter or reliever path?

I think Cooper would be more an everyday player. He hits righties better than Bauers. Bauers doesn't really have any positive splits. To me Cooper would be a solid upgrade, I liken him similar to Santana. Maybe a little less power but better contact. Still solid defense. At any rate it would be disappointing if this is our big bat addition this year. Way to similar to last year we're we added all bats coming off poor years hoping for a resurgence to slightly above average players.

I wouldn't mind that scenario however I don't know if adding 30 or so million to the payroll would really work (I would like it to). Maybe you create a 3 team trade where Burnes goes somewhere and we get Arraez. We get Arraez, Edward Cabrera, and lotto type prospect from both Phillies and Marlins, the Phillies get Burnes and Payamps, the Marlins get Mick Abel, Aiden Miller, Christopher Sanchez, Willy Adames (maybe Adames somewhere else) Sign Hoskins (I would prefer Justin Turner) Trade Weimer for Alex Manoah or Emerson Hancock or Gavin Stone 1)DH Yelich 2)C Contreras 3) 2B Arraez 4) 1B Hoskins/Turner 5)RF Mitchell 6) CF Chourio 7)LF Frelick 8) 3B Black 8) SS Turang 1)Peralta 2) Cabrera 3)Manoah 4)Miley 5) Rae/Gasser Not to bad

Clarke is probably a safe bet to at least be a productive platoon/bench player. If we want to keep Quero and Contreras, Clarke is a perfect 3rd catcher who can play elsewhere. Martinez probably has more upside with his athleticism and defense upside. However he is way lower floor and more subsequent risk not making the bigs. Maybe if things go really well for both they could combine to make a nice 1B platoon in a few years. Black maybe to 2B, Wilken to 3B, Turang/EBJ SS. 2026? Unlikely but maybe. My vote is that Clarke is better but I could see Matinez making a big jump.

I would really hate to lose Vieira, it really shows how deep our pen is maybe our 10-12th best reliever at this point. I know it is unlikely but would it be possible to trade relievers for some AA OF depth?

I was making a list today and got confused with some guys who could be on the AAA team, also our IF and relief depth at AAA is crazy. Current stock Mlb roster (no additions): Contreras, Bauers, Turang, Adames, Black Frelick, Chourio, Wiemer, Mitchell, Yelich, Haase, Montesario, Miller? Pitchers= Burnes, Peralta, Miley, Rae, Gasser, Ross, Wilson, Williams, Payamps, Uribe, Milner, Megill, Peguaro (For this I am not really worried if you flip Perkins for Weimer, Clarke for Peguaro, Dunn for Miller etc., I just put in the most tenured with big league team) That puts my AAA roster some thing like this C)Quero, Nola, Naverreto 1B)Clarke, Warren 2B)Dunn, J Jones, Campbell, Y Hernandez, Valerio SS)Murray, Zamora 3B)Dorrian, Capra OF)Perkins, Roller, Hicklen, Sparks, C Rodriguez, I Collins(if), D Garcia (not sure who this is) Rotation) C Rodriguez, Junk, McKendry, McGee, Semenaris? Pen=Clarke, Viera, Small, Andrews, Hudson, Bukauskas, Patrick, Myers, Meeker, Thompson, Paredes, Carlson, Yeager, L Contreras, P Fernandez, Chirino, Middendorf, Bennett, Zastryzny Is there any one on this list that we have already cut/lost? Is there any one I forgot? I didn't really take options into account so there is likely a flip threre as well. I know some are non-roster guys who won't make it to the season and some will like go to AA. Basically what does our AAA team look? To me we have a crazy amount of pen depth to trade from and some AAA IF to sort out.