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  1. Brewcrew82
    Yeah. Sorry Juan Soto slipped my mind lol
  2. Brewcrew82
    Yeah. Sorry Juan Soto slipped my mind lol
  3. Brewcrew82
    They want to compete this season, too. Without Burnes, that task becomes a heck of a lot more difficult. Above all else, Attanasio cares about making money. Trading your two best pitchers over such a short period of time amidst increasingly lackluster attendance and fan discontent will not help with that. Paper may be all that should matter, but the real world is not played out on paper.
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    They want to compete this season, too. Without Burnes, that task becomes a heck of a lot more difficult. Above all else, Attanasio cares about making money. Trading your two best pitchers over such a short period of time amidst increasingly lackluster attendance and fan discontent will not help with that. Paper may be all that should matter, but the real world is not played out on paper.
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    Burnes has one of the higher trade values in the game. Definitely the highest for a player with 2 years of control remaining. Any trade will do a significant amount of damage to a team's top 10 prospect list. There's plenty of reason to be skeptical that a team will ultimately meet that asking price. The Brewers certainly aren't going to rush to trade him just because he only has 2 years of control remaining, when his presence at the top of the rotation is the single biggest reason why the Brewers have a chance to make it back to the postseason. They will want every bit of what he's worth to even consider parting with him. I agree with TPlush that we also need to think about this from a team image/marketing standpoint. The front office got absolutely excoriated by the fanbase and the media for the Hader trade. Do we think that Arnold and Attanasio are now going to go ahead the very next offseason and trade the most dominant starting pitcher in franchise history and incite an even greater backlash, particularly during a time when attendance has been relatively lackluster? A Burnes trade may make perfect sense on paper, but, for the aforementioned reasons, the actual chances of it happening are probably less than 50%.
  6. Brewcrew82
    Burnes has one of the higher trade values in the game. Definitely the highest for a player with 2 years of control remaining. Any trade will do a significant amount of damage to a team's top 10 prospect list. There's plenty of reason to be skeptical that a team will ultimately meet that asking price. The Brewers certainly aren't going to rush to trade him just because he only has 2 years of control remaining, when his presence at the top of the rotation is the single biggest reason why the Brewers have a chance to make it back to the postseason. They will want every bit of what he's worth to even consider parting with him. I agree with TPlush that we also need to think about this from a team image/marketing standpoint. The front office got absolutely excoriated by the fanbase and the media for the Hader trade. Do we think that Arnold and Attanasio are now going to go ahead the very next offseason and trade the most dominant starting pitcher in franchise history and incite an even greater backlash, particularly during a time when attendance has been relatively lackluster? A Burnes trade may make perfect sense on paper, but, for the aforementioned reasons, the actual chances of it happening are probably less than 50%.
  7. Brewcrew82
    Robert Gasser? Obviously more would be nice, but that's not "zero".
  8. Brewcrew82
    Robert Gasser? Obviously more would be nice, but that's not "zero".
  9. Brewcrew82
    WAR may undervalue relievers, but position players are still more valuable. Taylor is also a big upgrade over their current outfielders, with the exception of Laureano.
  10. Brewcrew82
    I wouldn't automatically assume they'll get an offer for Burnes that they can't turn down. They might get lowballed for Burnes, while having a different team exceed their asking price for Adames and/or Woodruff. As far as their overriding goal, the big man himself said the other day that they're "VERY intent" on returning to the postseason in 2022. That becomes a more difficult task were they to trade any of the big three.
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    I wouldn't automatically assume they'll get an offer for Burnes that they can't turn down. They might get lowballed for Burnes, while having a different team exceed their asking price for Adames and/or Woodruff. As far as their overriding goal, the big man himself said the other day that they're "VERY intent" on returning to the postseason in 2022. That becomes a more difficult task were they to trade any of the big three.
  12. Brewcrew82
    That's your opinion, which you've stated repeatedly, and you're certainly entitled to it. But the likely scenario, even beyond their comments, continues to be that they run it back with the big 3 still in tow. They're not going to trade Burnes/Woodruff/Adames for the sake of trading them while they're still under two years of control. They want to compete at a high level and get back to the playoffs in 2023 and having Burnes/Woodruff at the top of the rotation and Adames at SS almost certainly gives them their best shot to do so. They'll listen to offers, given the realities of the market and the fact they want to keep getting future "bites at the apple", but any trade will have to meet their high asking price and outweigh the immediate costs of losing such a player.
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    That's your opinion, which you've stated repeatedly, and you're certainly entitled to it. But the likely scenario, even beyond their comments, continues to be that they run it back with the big 3 still in tow. They're not going to trade Burnes/Woodruff/Adames for the sake of trading them while they're still under two years of control. They want to compete at a high level and get back to the playoffs in 2023 and having Burnes/Woodruff at the top of the rotation and Adames at SS almost certainly gives them their best shot to do so. They'll listen to offers, given the realities of the market and the fact they want to keep getting future "bites at the apple", but any trade will have to meet their high asking price and outweigh the immediate costs of losing such a player.
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    I think that's where management is leaning too, judging by the "opportunistic" and "very intent on returning to the playoffs in 2023" remarks from Arnold and Attanasio. And then before he stepped down, Stearns said they were going to bring back "the core". They would probably have to be blown away by an offer to trade one of the big 3. They will listen though, as they always do and should.
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    I think that's where management is leaning too, judging by the "opportunistic" and "very intent on returning to the playoffs in 2023" remarks from Arnold and Attanasio. And then before he stepped down, Stearns said they were going to bring back "the core". They would probably have to be blown away by an offer to trade one of the big 3. They will listen though, as they always do and should.
  16. Brewcrew82
    But what are the chances of them actually landing DeGrom, Verlander, or Rodon? Like, less than 10%. In that case, to the trade market they go.... As far as an extension, Musgrove and Castillo are recent examples of top tier starting pitchers who decided to forgo their prime FA opportunity and instead sign an extension with the clubs they were recently traded to.
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    Their GM has made clear to fans that the organization is ready to compete right now and that they're willing to significantly increase their payroll and potentially part with some higher-level prospects. https://www.mlb.com/news/orioles-mike-elias-could-expand-payroll-in-2023 And their run differential last year was in negative territory largely due to their slow start. From June on, they finished 12 games above .500 with a +22 run differential, as their young and exciting core, headlined by Rutschman and Henderson, was called up and given increased playing opportunities. They're quite similar to the Cubs in 2014, who finished strong on the backs of their young players and then took off for 90+ wins the next season. There's a reason why a report came out just yesterday naming them as a likely DeGrom bidder. Assuming they don't end up landing one of the big three in FA, they might then turn to the trade market to obtain their ace, which is where Burnes would then come in. Rodriguez or Holiday (and another top 100 prospect such as Westburg) would ultimately have to be the starting point for the Brewers to budge. The payroll space would also be there for them to make as serious run at extending Burnes.
  18. Brewcrew82
    I feel like they might as Taylor has been better than Puk (4.0 vs 1.3 WAR), has the same amount of control left as Puk, and they're in need of outfielders. FWIW, pr BTV, Oakland is the one that comes out with surplus value in this trade to the tune of 13.0 (Puk has a 0 MTV).
  19. Brewcrew82
    Yeah, if you can find the money for either, obviously you would trade Woodruff. But that's likely not the reality we're living in.
  20. Brewcrew82
    Yeah, if you can find the money for either, obviously you would trade Woodruff. But that's likely not the reality we're living in.
  21. Brewcrew82
    Not really. If it was that clear, you would have said "when the contracts are signed." Why me and another poster understood it in that way.
  22. Brewcrew82
    To start, Woodruff is younger than Castillo. That is an incontrovertible fact. And, as I said, to play it safe in terms of time, my extension assumes an in-season agreement, in which case it doesn't kick in until 2024. That, plus 4 more years takes it through 2028, or Woodruff's age 35 season. 5 years $118 Million. Far from unreasonable. Obviously, the ideal would be an agreement this offseason which would preempt the two arb years and take him through one less year at 34. That may cost more, however, despite the presence of the Castillo contract as the Castillo deal was largely team-friendly. For now, I'll err on the side of caution and assume a higher total cost more in line with market value, and then be pleasantly surprised if a future agreement comes in cheaper.
  23. Brewcrew82
    Huh? Castillo is older than Woodruff...
  24. Brewcrew82
    Tremendous article that effectively summarizes my precise thoughts on a Woodruff extension. In particular, this quote: "anyone who has watched the playoffs knows that for a team to make a legitimate run toward a World Series title, they have to have at least two, and preferably three or four top starting pitchers." While we have some really promising position players starting to emerge from our farm system, eventually to be headlined by Chourio, we remain short on high-impact arms, which as you state, are necessary for a "legitimate run" at a WS. Obviously, we have Peralta and Ashby locked up already, but what would really help is locking up one of our sure-fire, top 10 aces in Burnes and Woodruff to front a sustained World Series push over the next 5-6 years. Woodruff, for obvious reasons, is the most likely candidate, and the deal you propose is eminently reasonable for both player and club. Then, you can trade Burnes to obtain your next generation of superstar pitchers (i.e., Rodriguez, Espino, Tiedemann, Miller, Stone, etc.).
  25. Brewcrew82
    Tremendous article that effectively summarizes my precise thoughts on a Woodruff extension. In particular, this quote: "anyone who has watched the playoffs knows that for a team to make a legitimate run toward a World Series title, they have to have at least two, and preferably three or four top starting pitchers." While we have some really promising position players starting to emerge from our farm system, eventually to be headlined by Chourio, we remain short on high-impact arms, which as you state, are necessary for a "legitimate run" at a WS. Obviously, we have Peralta and Ashby locked up already, but what would really help is locking up one of our sure-fire, top 10 aces in Burnes and Woodruff to front a sustained World Series push over the next 5-6 years. Woodruff, for obvious reasons, is the most likely candidate, and the deal you propose is eminently reasonable for both player and club. Then, you can trade Burnes to obtain your next generation of superstar pitchers (i.e., Rodriguez, Espino, Tiedemann, Miller, Stone, etc.).
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