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  1. Brewcrew82
    Actually, if we're going to extend anyone, I think we'd want it to be Burnes. But Mark is a cheapie so that's that.
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    A) The Brewers have a specific value that they've designated for each of their players. Either a team meets that value or it doesn't. We shouldn't settle for merely a "solid" offer with both of these guys two whole years from free agency. Otherwise, you're just setting things up for failure. B) Again a five year deal such as what Castillo and Wheeler got would take Woodruff to his age 35 season. There is no reason to think that his age 33-35 years would turn out to be "dead weight", even if they're not as productive as his prime years. But simply saying baseball is a "young man's game" is ignoring how many of the best pitchers in baseball over in recent seasons have been in their 30s. Guys like Verlander, Lance Lynn, etc. are very similar to Woodruff in build and arsenal. I'll take the assurance of having an ace over the next several years over gambling that we can replicate our success with Burnes, Peralta, and Woodruff with another team's prospects.
  3. Brewcrew82
    A) The Brewers have a specific value that they've designated for each of their players. Either a team meets that value or it doesn't. We shouldn't settle for merely a "solid" offer with both of these guys two whole years from free agency. Otherwise, you're just setting things up for failure. B) Again a five year deal such as what Castillo and Wheeler got would take Woodruff to his age 35 season. There is no reason to think that his age 33-35 years would turn out to be "dead weight", even if they're not as productive as his prime years. But simply saying baseball is a "young man's game" is ignoring how many of the best pitchers in baseball over in recent seasons have been in their 30s. Guys like Verlander, Lance Lynn, etc. are very similar to Woodruff in build and arsenal. I'll take the assurance of having an ace over the next several years over gambling that we can replicate our success with Burnes, Peralta, and Woodruff with another team's prospects.
  4. Brewcrew82
    Did you not read what I said? A Burnes extension is probably out of our wheelhouse, so I'm fine with trading him for the sort of big-armed starter prospect that you refer to. HOWEVER, wouldn't it be logical, if possible, to lock up a guy such as Woodruff who we already know is one of the top starters in the game for 5 more years through his age 35 season? The Phillies literally did the same thing in FA with Wheeler, a very similar pitcher to Woodruff I would point out, and look how well that's turned out for them. Woodruff's prime will almost certainly extend through the first couple of seasons of such a deal, where he will likely rack up a ton of WAR, and then even in the later seasons, he should still be an very effective pitcher judging by his repertoire and build. It's not like we would be extending him until he's 37 or 38, which is more of a danger zone. Elite pitchers are aging very gracefully nowadays, perhaps even moreso than position players.
  5. Brewcrew82
    Did you not read what I said? A Burnes extension is probably out of our wheelhouse, so I'm fine with trading him for the sort of big-armed starter prospect that you refer to. HOWEVER, wouldn't it be logical, if possible, to lock up a guy such as Woodruff who we already know is one of the top starters in the game for 5 more years through his age 35 season? The Phillies literally did the same thing in FA with Wheeler, a very similar pitcher to Woodruff I would point out, and look how well that's turned out for them. Woodruff's prime will almost certainly extend through the first couple of seasons of such a deal, where he will likely rack up a ton of WAR, and then even in the later seasons, he should still be an very effective pitcher judging by his repertoire and build. It's not like we would be extending him until he's 37 or 38, which is more of a danger zone. Elite pitchers are aging very gracefully nowadays, perhaps even moreso than position players.
  6. Brewcrew82
    I disagree to the extent that they'll just go and "take the offer that makes the most sense." Either a team will meet the designated value for these players or they won't. What the Brewers should NOT do is trade those players just for the sake of trading them according to a specific timeline. That kind of mentality is how you set yourself up to come out on the losing end of trades, especially with two whole seasons of team control remaining. As for the Woodruff age argument against a potential extension, have we not recently seen an increasing number of elite starting pitchers maintain their dominance well into their mid to late 30s (Verlander, Scherzer, DeGrom, etc.)? There's no reason why Woodruff can't follow in their footsteps with his pitch mix, particularly, in light of his development of an elite changeup. And a 5 year extension along the lines of Luis Castillo would take him to his age 35 season, which isn't that old for a starting pitcher and would lock in his most productive remaining years during a time when we'll need a top of the rotation stud.
  7. Brewcrew82
    I disagree to the extent that they'll just go and "take the offer that makes the most sense." Either a team will meet the designated value for these players or they won't. What the Brewers should NOT do is trade those players just for the sake of trading them according to a specific timeline. That kind of mentality is how you set yourself up to come out on the losing end of trades, especially with two whole seasons of team control remaining. As for the Woodruff age argument against a potential extension, have we not recently seen an increasing number of elite starting pitchers maintain their dominance well into their mid to late 30s (Verlander, Scherzer, DeGrom, etc.)? There's no reason why Woodruff can't follow in their footsteps with his pitch mix, particularly, in light of his development of an elite changeup. And a 5 year extension along the lines of Luis Castillo would take him to his age 35 season, which isn't that old for a starting pitcher and would lock in his most productive remaining years during a time when we'll need a top of the rotation stud.
  8. Brewcrew82
    Yep. And it should be even more as Burnes is better and has a half-year extra of control.
  9. Brewcrew82
    Yep. And it should be even more as Burnes is better and has a half-year extra of control.
  10. Brewcrew82
    I literally said he very well COULD do it, BUT it's a little naive to think that you can just move him over to 3B when he hasn't played there in almost a decade, and he'll instantaneously be every bit as elite as he is at SS. I just think Turang at 2B and Adames at SS maximizes both their offensive and defensive abilities, while the upgrade from Urias at 2B vs. 3B is relatively marginal. And wouldn't you rather Adames focus on his offensive consistency, as opposed to having him learn a new position? If he can produce at his 2021 level on offense over the course of a full season with this year's defensive production at SS, you're looking at close to a 7 WAR player. Either way, there's no indication the Brewers have even considered moving Adames to 3B, so this debate is probably over nothing.
  11. Brewcrew82
    I literally said he very well COULD do it, BUT it's a little naive to think that you can just move him over to 3B when he hasn't played there in almost a decade, and he'll instantaneously be every bit as elite as he is at SS. I just think Turang at 2B and Adames at SS maximizes both their offensive and defensive abilities, while the upgrade from Urias at 2B vs. 3B is relatively marginal. And wouldn't you rather Adames focus on his offensive consistency, as opposed to having him learn a new position? If he can produce at his 2021 level on offense over the course of a full season with this year's defensive production at SS, you're looking at close to a 7 WAR player. Either way, there's no indication the Brewers have even considered moving Adames to 3B, so this debate is probably over nothing.
  12. Brewcrew82
    Lol. Okay.
  13. Brewcrew82
    Lol. Okay.
  14. Brewcrew82
    Except it's not as simple as him moving over and playing 3B at an elite level when he hasn't played there since 2013. He very well could do it, but I just don't see the Brewers making the move. Urias isn't bad enough at 3B to force it. Our problem in the infield this year was on the right side...
  15. Brewcrew82
    Except it's not as simple as him moving over and playing 3B at an elite level when he hasn't played there since 2013. He very well could do it, but I just don't see the Brewers making the move. Urias isn't bad enough at 3B to force it. Our problem in the infield this year was on the right side...
  16. Brewcrew82
    You'd be surprised what players will do when there's millions of dollars on the line....Our main concern needs to be getting better defense from the 2B position. Wong absolutely killed us at times this year and was a major part of our overall decline on defense.
  17. Brewcrew82
    Jackson Holliday isn't playing in the majors next season...
  18. Brewcrew82
    It just don't see that much upside to doing it. Urias is fine at 3B. Not elite, but he's far from a butcher. Meanwhile, we KNOW Adames is an elite SS. And we're 99.9% sure Turang would be an elite 2B. But it's a bit of a stretch to automatically assume that Adames will be elite at 3B when he hasn't played a single inning at the position since 2013. And I don't think Adames would want to do it in the absence of a contract extension given how much elite SS's get paid these days.
  19. Brewcrew82
    It just don't see that much upside to doing it. Urias is fine at 3B. Not elite, but he's far from a butcher. Meanwhile, we KNOW Adames is an elite SS. And we're 99.9% sure Turang would be an elite 2B. But it's a bit of a stretch to automatically assume that Adames will be elite at 3B when he hasn't played a single inning at the position since 2013. And I don't think Adames would want to do it in the absence of a contract extension given how much elite SS's get paid these days.
  20. Brewcrew82
    Turang at 2B is a "waste" defensively? Did we not watch our infield defense suffer tremendously this year due to Kolten Wong's "exploits"? If he can bring 60-grade defense to the 2B position, then we'll have two elite defenders up the middle and our entire defense/run prevention unit will improve as a result. I'm not sure the difference between Urias at 3B and Urias at 2B is enough to want to mess with that. Not to mention Adames' and Turang's offensive profiles are probably better suited for SS and 2B than 3B and SS.
  21. Brewcrew82
    Turang at 2B is a "waste" defensively? Did we not watch our infield defense suffer tremendously this year due to Kolten Wong's "exploits"? If he can bring 60-grade defense to the 2B position, then we'll have two elite defenders up the middle and our entire defense/run prevention unit will improve as a result. I'm not sure the difference between Urias at 3B and Urias at 2B is enough to want to mess with that. Not to mention Adames' and Turang's offensive profiles are probably better suited for SS and 2B than 3B and SS.
  22. Brewcrew82
    Again, bottom line is I need to see evidence of improved hitter development at the major league level. I do think we're headed in the right direction, though, and am particularly excited to see what a pure contact hitter like Sal Frelick can bring to the team.
  23. Brewcrew82
    Again, bottom line is I need to see evidence of improved hitter development at the major league level. I do think we're headed in the right direction, though, and am particularly excited to see what a pure contact hitter like Sal Frelick can bring to the team.
  24. Brewcrew82
    I need to see evidence of improvement at the major league level, though. Mitchell had a nice cameo for instance, but showed a lot of swing and miss that will get seriously exploited by major league pitchers over the course of an entire season. And Wiemer still K'd over 30% for the majority of the season in AA, while his walk rate in AAA just returned to its 2021 levels.
  25. Brewcrew82
    I need to see evidence of improvement at the major league level, though. Mitchell had a nice cameo for instance, but showed a lot of swing and miss that will get seriously exploited by major league pitchers over the course of an entire season. And Wiemer still K'd over 30% for the majority of the season in AA, while his walk rate in AAA just returned to its 2021 levels.
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