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The 100MPH fastball you or...Damulle posted on Twitter along with the 88 MPH slider, that was enough right there to protect that guy. His performance in the Fall League aside. But that Fastball moved almost like a Changeup. Reading the comments...there were people who legitimately asked if that was his change. If he can throw 100 like that and he's toying with other grips, it's just a lock, you have to protect him. Right now, the one area we could improve this team the most...IMO, is the BP. If they just brought back most of the same team, add some of the young prospects and then can find 2-3 overpowering relievers, I'll be happy. Ecreg was another guy I thought might get protected, just because of his stuff, but...not to be.

The 100MPH fastball you or...Damulle posted on Twitter along with the 88 MPH slider, that was enough right there to protect that guy. His performance in the Fall League aside. But that Fastball moved almost like a Changeup. Reading the comments...there were people who legitimately asked if that was his change. If he can throw 100 like that and he's toying with other grips, it's just a lock, you have to protect him. Right now, the one area we could improve this team the most...IMO, is the BP. If they just brought back most of the same team, add some of the young prospects and then can find 2-3 overpowering relievers, I'll be happy. Ecreg was another guy I thought might get protected, just because of his stuff, but...not to be.

Yeah...I don't understand that one. Devanney? Is it too much 3B depth in your MiLB system? But I'm glad they kept Uribe, Robinson...I was sweating out Turang, not sure if he'd get added, but beyond that...Devanney over Singleton made a lot of sense. If Singleton has a good STing, you can create a spot on the 40.

Yeah...I don't understand that one. Devanney? Is it too much 3B depth in your MiLB system? But I'm glad they kept Uribe, Robinson...I was sweating out Turang, not sure if he'd get added, but beyond that...Devanney over Singleton made a lot of sense. If Singleton has a good STing, you can create a spot on the 40.

The cap ain't tightening any more than it did this past off-season. And we saw how they pushed ~75M down the road. With the cap going up, they'll be able to keep their key FAs...if they want to. But they've pretty much got to decide this off-season if they're keeping Rodgers for another TWO years or they have to move him this off-season. The '23 option guarantees the '25 salary. Obviously if you do that, you have to have a lot of confidence in a lot of young young players. It also would just take a lot of balls to do that unless we see something from Love. I don't anticipate it being an issue, but if we're out of it with ~4 games remaining...you gotta try and play Love. Try and get some idea what he looks like. There's three ways we could go. Love, run it back a couple more times with Rodgers and stay in this kinda all in, right now mindset, OR in this draft with all these QBs, do you hit reset and just go after a 21 year old kid from the SEC or wherever. Rodgers also has the option to restructure his contract to help create more room, but given the fact that he took his money in bitcoin, he may not be real keen on doing that. The whole roster looks like a cluster#$% right now, but they have 7 more games to get a better feel of the young talent they have. To see if Watson can catch the ball reliably. Stokes and Doubs likely won't have much time, but Nixon, Ford, Toure, plus all the more obvious ones, they'll probably give the front office a better idea of what direction to go. They REALLY need to know what Jenkins and Bakh are going to look like, see if they can come back. Otherwise you're going to have 3 of your 5-6 most important players with lingering questions about their health as Gary likely won't be back until a month into next season if all goes well(though he is a freak and obviously a hard worker, so who knows). I have no idea what I'd do with this roster. I don't know what Eric Stokes is. He looked like an elite lockdown CB giving us the NFLs top duo, this year he looked out of place. Just counting on him to bounce back is a big risk as it hasn't worked with Savage. TJ Slaton is another player who's not been impressive. Probably better to go back with Clark at NT and then rotate Slaton in. Better yet, fire Barry since he hasn't gotten the most out of this defense answering the question...to my mind, was he bad because of the players in Det and Wash, or was he bad because he's just bad.

He was kinda dead in the water when Cobb came in with Rodgers. He showed absolutely nothing his first year. This year he's looked more like an athlete, but when Rodgers was asked about him as a WRer, he made it very clear he was not a fan by saying something like, 'he's returning punts right now...so, yeah.' They stuck with him waaay too long returning punts. I agree, he could definitely still have a role with a team. KC seems to be collecting WRers. He hasn't done much, but he's blocked well on WRer screens and he's been not terrible in a few snaps. Nixon looked more comfortable catching them(the first one made me nervous, but the 2nd was on the move and clean)...but he also showed better instincts than Rodgers.

From a poster who wanted to cut Watson this past week, there are a WHOLE lot of flaws here. 1-Aaron Jones has never been an All-Pro, he's been a 1X Pro-Bowl RB. Also nobody WANTS to replace Aaron Jones next year. He's obviously our best offensive player. But you gonna pay him like a #1 WRer? A 28 year old RB who has a cap hit over 20M next year, what do YOU propose they do? Another extension? 2-You can just say my name. And I was hardly the only one who thought Hill would take over Jones role next year, again given...it's very unlikely Jones is brought back with a 20+M cap hit. https://www.packers.com/video/aj-dillon-on-kylin-hill-he-s-like-a-young-aaron-jones 3-How would he have been a 1st year RB? He's literally playing on the team THIS year and you know he got hurt LAST year. That's 3 years. So a 3rd year RB. 4-Obviously I didn't know he was being a dick. Just that Aaron Jones is likely gone and Kylin Hill is a very good runner and we needed someone to replace him. 5-Even if he WAS a 1st year player...we're still most likely going to replace Aaron Jones with a 1st year player next year unless they go deeper into the future and extend Jones for 2-3 more years. Generally not a good idea for RBs.

That was apparently a message sending cut. LaFleur said it was more about off-field stuff. From what I see I don't like that. He looked like he was a REALLY good #2 RB, fit this system and could have had a big role next year if Jones was gone, but you can't if he's whining about a lack of touches and complaining about his playing time and just a malcontent, you can't keep a guy like that on your team. Well...normally. The old saying, "be who you can afford to be," comes into play here. He was a guy who looked like he fit the scheme, but he couldn't afford to be a dick and complaining at this point.

No, he's absolutely right. Instead of punting from inside our own 10 and Iowa having a 5 play, 18 yard drive to make it a 21-10 game, the Badgers have 1st and 10 at the 25 and they've got a little room to operate. If they call that, it's an enormous shift in the game. I have no idea if the Badgers win, but after that sequence, it was pretty much a given they were gonna lose. Went from down 4 to 11 in large part due to that no-call.

Now look at Willy Adames 1st and 2nd half splits. Most players have one half of the season that's better than the other. The "Bad" halfs here include a .756, a .780 with an MVP caliber 1st half, .738 and .793. The Brewers had ONE regular with an OPS over .770 this past year. I think he'd help. I think Abreu would help more, but I think he'd help even with the 'bad' halves.

Again, I really don't know how to discuss these things when you start arguing against things that I just NEVER said; As for the Rams stadium, you were just throwing out ridiculous comps about this going into the billions, so I thought I'd throw one out as well. They've got ~100 million in a fund for upgrades. They're asking for 100M in public funding. So yeah, JUUUST like the situation in Baltimore where they're earmarking 1.2 billion for upgrades to Camden, 9 minor league parks AND money earmarked for the Ravens stadium. That is...definitely an apples to apples comp. And of course, all of this means I must not have been around and aware of the difficulties that went with building Miller Park in the 90s....that I guess tracks with the rest of this conversation. And this...AGAIN is your argument to Robocaller's comment of; Also, it was pointed out that payroll was down across the league. We had the highest payroll in team history. Generally how the future works. We have some idea about the "undoubtedly high price tag" though. https://www.jsonline.com/story/money/real-estate/commercial/2022/03/11/milwaukee-brewers-may-seek-100-million-funding-amfam-field/9376424002/ Great. And MINE was post was in response to your comments to Svuem that was absolutely nothing but strawmen.

I didn't say they shouldn't. I said they shouldn't trade Wiemer for Diaz. 6 years of Wiemer and his upside vs a 1B/DH. We're gonna need a couple of RHed hitters in this lineup, and preferably a few who hit for power. And you could thrown Abreu in there. He's not re-signing in Chicago(at least the South Side, rumor is the team on the North side my want him...for some reason). He's the perfect fit...revenues are up, no better time than to go get a guy who fits this lineup perfectly than right now when the Brewers are talking about being all in. Maybe he wants to stay in Chicago and it's not an option. Anyway, this excercise is you post a proposal, people comment on it. I commented I wouldn't trade that much for Diaz. 2 years of Diaz. Have to hope he maintains his play from last year which was by far a career year...and like I said, he's the type of hitter we could use, I just wouldn't do it for a guy like Wiemer who could fill in in any OF spot, DH...and probably 1B at some point in the future for a guy who hits for very little power while being primarily a 1B/DH.

As I said, he doesn't have his speed, but they're similar in every other area scouts grade. Hit tool, power, arm, field...both guys who walk at a high rate, also a lot of swing and miss. There are almost no perfect comps. Maybe Hunter Pence is a better one, but Buhner was traded for a guy who put up a .400 OBP in limited action and looked similar to Diaz before becoming a fixture in RF for the Mariners for almost 15 years, so I went with him. Hart, Pence...fine. But Geoff Jenkins? Also, I don't even know how to begin to use Sammy Sosa as a comp. He's like a cartoon character who came up as a shorter, skinny, 160LB OFer and then his head swelled about a quarter inch less than Bonds.

Jenkins guy didn't get ANY rush on that play. Even as Rodgers stepped up, he wasn't getting moved. Lawrence came on a stunt and I don't recall if it was Myers or Runyan, but it definitely wasn't Jenkins. I think he gave up a sack, but it wasn't on the strip sack. Edit-Here's a link with just the highlights, including the sack. But this is the one Jenkins got beat on(badly). It looked like Wyatt vs Rhyan during family night. Didn't really get beat laterally, the kid from Ole Miss just swats his hands away. Cowboys got **** for taking him in the 2nd round, but...he looked pretty good here. Anyway, I said he was playing with an edge, not that he was all the way back. I don't know when that'll happen, but it may not be this year...which will make his future contract talks much more interesting. Final 7 weeks of the season are gonna play a HUGE role. He was likely on pace to get a contract with an AAV in the 17M dollar range, higher if he came back and played OT like he had in the past, but did it for ~12 games after the ACL. Now he's not even the best OL Jenkins in the division this year(though I'd put money on him coming back and being more valuable than Teven Jenkins the next 4 years). Spotrac has a 4/58.8M deal. That seemed low coming into the year. It seems like a reasonable price range now.

I can't root for them to lose. I can accept they're not going to win it and a top 10 pick will be better long term, but to lose? LOL...to Dallas and McCarthy at home? Or anywhere? Maybe they beat the Titans at home on Thurs and who knows? They win 6 of 7 and...I don't know, find a way in. I just can't turn on the game and hope they lose them. They really hurt themselves with the tiebreakers and the Eagles are about as ugly a matchup as you can get for us right now, but I also thought they were done in 2010 due to injuries and the NFC isn't good enough to be rooting for high draft picks(even if we'll still probably get one).

We're clearly going to...I think it's just a question of when Frelick comes up. It's both hard to justify not breaking STing with him, but...also, small market team, extra year of control vs 6 weeks of not having him? Cleveland made it work with a very young team last year, so...no reason we can't. We need some more BP help like Uribe coming through or...I don't know, a FA. The guys I thought might be expensive, but in or price range turned out to be more expensive and signed immediately in Montero and Suarez.

Bostad needs more time with this group before I write off some of these young guys, but it's disappointing to see them play so poorly. They've looked good the last couple weeks, but...another just ugly performance. I think they've got 3 Soph, a Fresh and a Jr(all RS). There's a lot of talent there. Just make sure you keep Bostad around. If they can't get it figured out next year...well, then maybe I'll worry more about the long term outlook, but they've had bad seasons before.

CFB is a little over the top with the targeting and the suspensions, but I watched that one and was SHOCKED they didn't make a call. A lot of times it'll look worse than it is because the runner will go down and the target moves and the defender is already coming in, but this was a guy just straight up spearing another player. This has been a penalty before the game has become more protective of players(or soft as the tough guys who don't have to deal with the concussions say).

Urias has been REALLY undervalued the last couple years. 39 HRs, versatility, a .244/.344/.426 slash line...I think you're asking a lot of Turang to really improve on that as a rookie. It's one thing if you're going to trade Wong to allocate those resources elsewhere, but if you're bringing the same IF back...as big of a Brice Turang fan as I am, I wouldn't have him replace one of those 3 starters. Urias is also a very good hitter vs lefties...which is a weakness. If all 3 of those guys are on the team on opening day, I'd keep them in the starting lineup with Turang getting regular ABs in AAA. I do think Turang is going to be a stud and will hit for more power than most expect, but I don't think there's a rush to force him into the lineup just yet.

Yeah, I don't get that. Wiemer with his long kinda funky swing seems like it could take some time to adjust. I agree, he's the prototypical RFer with that size, speed, power and arm strength, but...the swing and miss and the questionable hit tool is the difference between a superstar and Lewis Brinson. We're also just not very good vs lefties, so it would seem you'd be better served to hang onto Renfroe and look to move Wong. Maybe that's what they'll do. Or maybe it's 11/14 and we should give Arnold some time to actually put the team together!

So athletic attributes aren't physical attributes to you? If a player is 6'7 vs 5'11, you don't consider that at all? That's...a strange take and contrary to most definitions, but alright.

It was also his 3rd week there and he got 6 targets in the passing game(4 completions) and 14 carries. So he ended up with 1 fewer touch than Mitchell who was the hot hand. The 49ers also had extra picks to play with as they got SIX extra 3rd round picks for losing Saleh to the Jets, McDaniel to the Dolphins and some executive to...somewhere. Not that they had too many picks. Obviously that's never a problem, but McCaffery is SUCH a threat as both a RB and a WRer and such a great fit in that system...and the NFC is so bad this year, that trade made sense to me. As for the Packers drafting Dillon to help keep Jones fresh, it's amazing to me how tough Jones has been. He was seen as a little fragile, but he just keeps getting better. Definitely one of the few guys who has lived up to and exceeded expectations.

No, not necessarily. A LOT of the heavy lifting has already been done at this time of the year. A short term boost to a team isn't quite the same as putting together the whole schedule for 2 a days, the off-season programs, building a staff. The 100 hours a week a coach works. Josh McDaniels got the Broncos to the playoffs on a flukey run in the regular season. Not sure he was qualified at that point to be a HC(though more qualified than Saturday).

LOL...probably because that's how you compare prospects, by their physical attributes. Speed, power, their hit tool, build. These are the ways scouts compare players. It was also the basis for MY comparison when you disagreed and then compared Wiemer to Hart. That had nothing to do with the fact that they were both tall, lanky OFers? Of course it did. But you don't use stats, you don't use physical attributes...you mix in left handed hitters with right handed hitters. How DO you actually draw comparisons other than scouting reports?

Wiemer needs to get regular at bats when he plays. His swing has a lot of moving parts and I agree, he could definitely struggle. I'd let Wiemer force their hand and then when they bring him up, he should be playing 5 times a week at least. Luckily he's capable of playing all 3 OF spots(RF obviously the best fit). I hope they don't non-tender Renfroe. He feels like the perfect bridge for Wiemer. He only has ~40 games in AAA and he struggled in AA, probably due to an injury, but still, for a number of reasons, he should start the year in AAA baring some injury or unless he just impresses so much in STing that he forces his way in.