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I can definitely see the comp. Obviously you don't expect a rookie to produce quite like Kwan did this past year, but their obviously similar players. I also wouldn't hit them 1-2...though the would seem to fit in terms of BA/OBP and lack of power atop the order, you don't really want to lead off with two lefties with similar profiles. It'd be great if with the shift Yelich could hit for a little better BA, obviously more power from him would be great.

BTV has Tyrone Taylor similar to Wiemer per BTV. It's obviously not perfect, but that's a pretty significant gap in value...IMO. I suspect most Brewers fans would much rather see Taylor traded than Wiemer.

I guess I can see the Hart comp...they're both tall, athletic at the same point, but Wiemer's power and arm make Buhner a more accurate comp IMO. But tall, lanky, sure. I can see Hart. But Sosa, Vaughn and Jenkins(especially a LHed Jenkins)? What part of their profiles are similar? They all had power I guess, but obviously so too did Buhner. Wiemer is 6'5 215, has a 70 arm, 60 power, some swing and miss. Sosa was 6' 165 coming into the big leagues(before the steroids). Buhner had one of the strongest arms from RF I've seen...none of those players are even close to Wiemer's defensive profile. Offensively, a guy who has a questionable hit tool, but big power, good plate discipline and strikes out a bit, that kinda fits a lot of players. Hunter Pence is a comp used for Wiemer and Buhner was a comp used for Pence. Obviously none are exact, but you're talking about 3 guys who are about 6 feet and bear little resemblance to Wiemer's athletic attributes.

I was gonna guess Ivan Rodriguez...but you said 4th best career, so...Doug Henry? I remember he got ROY votes for the Brewers that year...or there about. Obviously Pat Listach was the ROY that year.

I was gonna guess Ivan Rodriguez...but you said 4th best career, so...Doug Henry? I remember he got ROY votes for the Brewers that year...or there about. Obviously Pat Listach was the ROY that year.

And I will GLADLY sign up for a pitcher when he looks cooked at 33-34 finishes top 5 in Cy Young voting both years and put up over 14.3 WAR! Obviously just being a smart ass. He did struggle a couple years earlier at age 31/32 and looked like he might be done being an ace. In 2014 they speculated he came back too quickly from a core muscle injury and his mechanics were off. THEN 2015 he started off terribly giving up 7ER, 7ER and 6 ER in his first 5 starts and finished with a 2.49 ERA the last ~100IP. Whatever it was, Tigers fans were talking about their ace was done, his velocity dipped, he was clearly not the same pitcher as he dealt with injuries those two years...blamed the Tigers saying they mis-diagnosed him. Still put up 6.3Fwar those two years, but just 3.3 bWAR which seems much more accurate. The thing is, there ARE other signs. You can reasonably guess a pitcher who have very little wear on his arm is not going to fall off a cliff due to age. It's not a skill that increases or declines significantly with age. Wear and tear maybe, but it's not like just losing bat speed or speed-speed which is a concern with Trea Turner. All you can do is just look at their body of work, their trends in terms of velocity and command and make an informed decision. I think Clayton Kershaw has shown signs of decline before he REALLY showed them, but he's been so protected by the Dodgers pitching depth, they could give him extra time off. Bartolo Colon was an effective pitcher into his 40s. If there has ever been an indication of ANY player putting almost no effort into maintaining his physical ability...or ability to move anything than his right arm in a throwing motion it was Colon. If you're talking left arm, then it'd be David Wells.

But you really can. Outside the 60 game Covid season, he's been VERY consistent from year to year. It's basically Abreu option #1, and then...who is the 2nd option then? There are no 3B. We don't need a SS or 2B. Bell probably will be more expensive anyway, so I'd likely won't matter.

Yeah, I don't like giving up Mitchell for Jansen myself, but I think that's good value. And I'd be willing to trade Ruiz Diaz for Wiemer? That VERY well may look like a steal in 2 years, but it could also be like trading Ken Phelps and his .400 OBP for Jay Buhner. THAT is a bad deal. He's clearly better than what we currently have, but I'm not giving up Wiemer and Hiura. I mean...I suspect he'll be swapped out for a reliever or something anyway, as much as I'd like to give him another run and hope he can get it together, but Wiemer has Jay Buhner like traits. He's built like an OLB and he's got a cannon and he's produced at AAA. Diaz is the type of hitter we need, but not for Wiemer. I'm also not counting on Chourio as this lock just yet. We've got a nice group of OFers, but Frelick is the only player I think is close to a sure thing in this current OF. In a year from now I'd be good with trading, but just because we have a surplus doesn't mean we HAVE to trade from it.

If the question was is there a reason to sign Bell over Abreu, sure, "zero reason" makes sense. Beyond that...the fact that he's a switch hitter...and his 128 OPS+ would have led the Brewers last year. So that seems like a reason. Also...hit lefties this past year. That'd certainly help. Abreu would be a...MUCH better choice obviously.

Ford does come in like a bat outta hell. Might allow the Packers to use Savage better...I don't know, maybe he just replaces him(be a shame given how good we saw he could play). This more like the team I was envisioning. The deep threat opening things up so teams couldn't play the run...Bakh out that absolutely neutralizing elite edge rushers. Jenkins playing with an edge(last week in Detroit he was ANGRY we didn't run the ball on an RPO down inside the 5 right before the failed play to Bakh). DL looks solid. Walker looks...fast. They're STILL just lining him up at MLBer 5-7 yards off the ball and blitzing him. So inspired. And he's invariably picked up. Maybe set him on the edge...or maybe they need Campbell back to do that. But unless he turns into Micah 2.0, the loss of Gary is so huge, this was an encouraging game, but I don't see a path toward actually getting back in it. Gary was one of the 3-4-5 players this team just could NOT afford to lose. But I love the fight, I love seeing some young players look like they're developing(like to see 'em turn Wyatt loose a bit more, but he's been solid). At least give us some idea of what we could look like next year.

T-Buck needs to be retired as the measure of a bust. He shouldn't even rank in the top...10-15. Brent Fullwood, Rich Campbell, Jamal Reynolds, Justin Harrell...pretty much all of Wolf or...1980's picks. Buckley was good, he just didn't like GB and was a 23 year old punk...but he went on to be one of the top nickel corners in the league. He also gets bonus points for imparting his shortcomings on Jaire Alexander when he was his position coach at Louisville and it was looking like we MIGHT break the..."Terrell Buckley rule," and draft a little corner. Rodgers is just a 3rd round pick who didn't work out. He's just...Jace Sternberger...but even then, not as bad. Every time I watch a Terry McClaurin highlight I remember how he was picked one spot later. We'd be better off just trading our 3rd round picks for 4th round picks moving forward. Just like Wolf and TT probably should have just traded their 1sts for a whole bunch of 2nd-4th round picks. Hell, I'm about 99% sure Jordy would have been a bust if the Packers hadn't moved back the 7 or 8 spots and taken him early in the 2nd rather than the 1st.

Yeah...sorry, when leading by 14 points or more.

"Chuckie hacks on 2-0." Good dude though...from what I understand. Was pretty involved in the communities he played in. The old "stay in school" initiative, and D.A.R.E programs.

....seriously? Why should the guy we just gave 150.6M GTD over the next 3 years not lead with his Right Shoulder and try and block a 325LB DL? I feel like the answer is in the question!

195 times the Cowboys have had a lead in the 4th Quarter before today. 195 times they've won...until today! 195-1.

Do we get Watson his 4th? I mean, I know we don't, but...I'd like to see it.

Ok...love the play, but Rodgers doesn't need to be blocking anyone.

If only he was...the fastest guy on the team it'd be over!

He gives up a catch to Dalton Schultz, but then locks up Lamb?

Feels like they'd probably be calling it. They just called an off-side on the offense.

Yeah, I'd rather get Quintin Johnston than eek into the playoffs and get spanked. Losing Gary was kinda the nail in the coffin of '22 for me.

You're 3-6. That just seemed WAY too conservative to me. Dallas has a very good D, but the OL and Rodgers are playing well, you're picking up yards running the ball...if nothing else, just try and get up there, run the ball at ~45 seconds and then if you get stuffed...you're gonna need your Defense to get a stop anyway.

See...the way they played there is EXACTLY why they might as well just fire Barry now. I get Rashan Gary is out, but that shows you have ZERO confidence in your defense. You're not even TRYING with 50 seconds on 3rd and 1 because you're SO scared that they get the ball back and get in position for a FG?

Sorry, THAT is what I hate seeing from Rodgers. Screaming in MLF's face yelling "There's no-one F#$%$ OPEN."

Same here. This is like watching a Brewers team that's going to lose 85 games and you just wanna see some progress out of the prospects...