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I just said, "he struggled badly in AAA and the Brewers, while not flush with top end catching talent, they did have 3-4 AAA worthy catching prospects and Reetz just wasn't hitting well at that level." It was more about the roster crunch and I'm guessing if he'd have hit .257/.342/.517 in 81 PAs rather than .212/.254/.424 in 71 AAA ABs, he probably still would have been DFAd...but he was also struggling in AAA.

I just said, "he struggled badly in AAA and the Brewers, while not flush with top end catching talent, they did have 3-4 AAA worthy catching prospects and Reetz just wasn't hitting well at that level." It was more about the roster crunch and I'm guessing if he'd have hit .257/.342/.517 in 81 PAs rather than .212/.254/.424 in 71 AAA ABs, he probably still would have been DFAd...but he was also struggling in AAA.

Again, I really did. However as it had nothing to do with our struggles with RISP, it's not relevant to this. More than one thing can in fact go wrong during a season. Really? Trying to make contact with RISP and shortening up leads to worse results for "most hitters?" I'd like to see anything that supports that. BABIP with RISP is higher than BA overall. So...seems like a difficult argument to make that making contact with runners in scoring position vs striking out would lead to worse results. But yeah, I'd rather not talk about shooting craps when talking Baseball.

Again, I really did. However as it had nothing to do with our struggles with RISP, it's not relevant to this. More than one thing can in fact go wrong during a season. Really? Trying to make contact with RISP and shortening up leads to worse results for "most hitters?" I'd like to see anything that supports that. BABIP with RISP is higher than BA overall. So...seems like a difficult argument to make that making contact with runners in scoring position vs striking out would lead to worse results. But yeah, I'd rather not talk about shooting craps when talking Baseball.

Yes, but not relative to the rest of the league. The AVERAGE BA with RISP was ~10 points higher. So they were just as bad relative to the rest of the league at getting hits with RISP as they were getting hits to begin with. Not their batting average...which was the statistic both you and Svuem cited. They were well below league average. .246, league AVERAGE .253. That's not better than most teams. Ok....? The point was made that we struggled hitting with RISP. You said "people need to stop saying that," beacuse their BA was higher with RISP than it was on balance. And again, it is for all of Baseball. There are a myriad of reasons why it's easier to get a hit with RISP...in no small part to IF positioning. They'll often play their IF in, or they can't shift with a runner on 2nd. The pitcher is more apt to give in to a hitter so as to not put another runner on. WHATEVER it is, we were below average in the league in BA AND BA with RISP and the comment wasn't made "we need to improve our hitting with RISP," it was simply pointed out...that was a problem. It's also nothing like saying "I Need to roll more sevens." It's more like saying, "we need hitters who can shorten up, put the ball in play, and particularly with less than 2 outs, get runners over and in." Kolten Wong himself talked about how he liked how in Milwaukee, they didn't ask you to shorten up with 2 strikes...and that's obviously an organizational philosophy because...we were 26th in K rate? There's a reason you want power pitchers with the Manfred runner on 2nd base. Because a strikeout is huge and can help you get out of the innings...or just help you get out of trouble anytime you're dealing with runners in scoring position and fewer than 2 outs. We were 26th in that category. That's just bad baseball.

Yes, but not relative to the rest of the league. The AVERAGE BA with RISP was ~10 points higher. So they were just as bad relative to the rest of the league at getting hits with RISP as they were getting hits to begin with. Not their batting average...which was the statistic both you and Svuem cited. They were well below league average. .246, league AVERAGE .253. That's not better than most teams. Ok....? The point was made that we struggled hitting with RISP. You said "people need to stop saying that," beacuse their BA was higher with RISP than it was on balance. And again, it is for all of Baseball. There are a myriad of reasons why it's easier to get a hit with RISP...in no small part to IF positioning. They'll often play their IF in, or they can't shift with a runner on 2nd. The pitcher is more apt to give in to a hitter so as to not put another runner on. WHATEVER it is, we were below average in the league in BA AND BA with RISP and the comment wasn't made "we need to improve our hitting with RISP," it was simply pointed out...that was a problem. It's also nothing like saying "I Need to roll more sevens." It's more like saying, "we need hitters who can shorten up, put the ball in play, and particularly with less than 2 outs, get runners over and in." Kolten Wong himself talked about how he liked how in Milwaukee, they didn't ask you to shorten up with 2 strikes...and that's obviously an organizational philosophy because...we were 26th in K rate? There's a reason you want power pitchers with the Manfred runner on 2nd base. Because a strikeout is huge and can help you get out of the innings...or just help you get out of trouble anytime you're dealing with runners in scoring position and fewer than 2 outs. We were 26th in that category. That's just bad baseball.

Especially, as he said, if it's an investment property. If you're making money on it, you can put it up on the market and leave it there for a while. I imagine that'd be very frustrating if you are looking for a house, but you're going to get hit on taxes, you've put in a whole lot of sweat equity, you've dealt with...unpleasant tenants.

Apparently we also differ about the word proven.

Apparently we also differ about the word proven.

Yeah...if the Braun thing was the ONLY issue I wouldn't have brought it up. Braun hasn't even been on the team for a couple years and literally ONE person ever thought that was a good idea. Edit--Also, I DID say about a perfectly REASONABLE topic. Feel free to use it again the next time 25 year deferred payments of 10M a year to Corbin Burnes in order to sign him to an extension is brought up. And no, I did not see Svuem's post on the Brewers hitting with RISP. I saw him talk about a different issue with this team in this thread, but surely the point isn't that there was just ONE problem, right? This team was bad or below average in a WHOLE lot of areas. How many times could we not get the run in on 2nd in extra innings? Just the last two games of the Marlins series they were 2 for 20 I think...fighting for their playoff life they couldn't get a runner in from 2nd with 0 outs in extra innings. This isn't a multiple choice. The Brewer are an all or nothing team. That may produce a decent OPS, but it doesn't produce consistency. Is this NOT the main cause for excitement about hitters like Frelick, Mitchell, Ruiz...because they can actually help us score different ways? Their athleticism, Ruiz's ability to get down a bunt, Frelick making contact, Mitchell...we've already seen what his speed can do to teams in games. Oh...and they should DEFINITELY give Ruiz some games at 2B next year in ST'ing or AAA...

Yeah...if the Braun thing was the ONLY issue I wouldn't have brought it up. Braun hasn't even been on the team for a couple years and literally ONE person ever thought that was a good idea. Edit--Also, I DID say about a perfectly REASONABLE topic. Feel free to use it again the next time 25 year deferred payments of 10M a year to Corbin Burnes in order to sign him to an extension is brought up. And no, I did not see Svuem's post on the Brewers hitting with RISP. I saw him talk about a different issue with this team in this thread, but surely the point isn't that there was just ONE problem, right? This team was bad or below average in a WHOLE lot of areas. How many times could we not get the run in on 2nd in extra innings? Just the last two games of the Marlins series they were 2 for 20 I think...fighting for their playoff life they couldn't get a runner in from 2nd with 0 outs in extra innings. This isn't a multiple choice. The Brewer are an all or nothing team. That may produce a decent OPS, but it doesn't produce consistency. Is this NOT the main cause for excitement about hitters like Frelick, Mitchell, Ruiz...because they can actually help us score different ways? Their athleticism, Ruiz's ability to get down a bunt, Frelick making contact, Mitchell...we've already seen what his speed can do to teams in games. Oh...and they should DEFINITELY give Ruiz some games at 2B next year in ST'ing or AAA...

People need to stop telling people what they're allowed to talk about on here. This is probably the...5th or 6th time you've said this about a perfectly reasonable topic. The average BA with RISP=.253 The leave average BA=.243 So...the Brewers were just as bad relative to the rest of the league with RISP as they were in BA. It most definitely WAS a problem. I don't think anyone's saying that was "THE" problem. There were multiple problems with this Brewers team. Their inability to add on runs or get runners from 2nd/3rd in with less than 2 outs, that was chief among them, PARTICULARLY the last month of the season. And obviously BA goes up with RISP. Teams play their IFs in, the pressure is on the pitchers, they're more likely to not be able to shift(tough to play a 3B or SS a couple steps to the left of 2nd with a man on 3rd).

People need to stop telling people what they're allowed to talk about on here. This is probably the...5th or 6th time you've said this about a perfectly reasonable topic. The average BA with RISP=.253 The leave average BA=.243 So...the Brewers were just as bad relative to the rest of the league with RISP as they were in BA. It most definitely WAS a problem. I don't think anyone's saying that was "THE" problem. There were multiple problems with this Brewers team. Their inability to add on runs or get runners from 2nd/3rd in with less than 2 outs, that was chief among them, PARTICULARLY the last month of the season. And obviously BA goes up with RISP. Teams play their IFs in, the pressure is on the pitchers, they're more likely to not be able to shift(tough to play a 3B or SS a couple steps to the left of 2nd with a man on 3rd).

It was my understanding they added him to the 40 man because he had an opt-out clause, but then needed the 40 man spot for some BP help(and because he wasn't hitting). I don't remember if it was Mejia, Topa, Cousins or whoever...there's no lack of fringe relievers we had either coming back from injury or needed in Milwaukee from time to time, but basically...they just didn't think he was worth the 40 man spot given how he struggled badly in AAA and the Brewers, while not flush with top end catching talent, they did have 3-4 AAA worthy catching prospects and Reetz just wasn't hitting well at that level.

It was my understanding they added him to the 40 man because he had an opt-out clause, but then needed the 40 man spot for some BP help(and because he wasn't hitting). I don't remember if it was Mejia, Topa, Cousins or whoever...there's no lack of fringe relievers we had either coming back from injury or needed in Milwaukee from time to time, but basically...they just didn't think he was worth the 40 man spot given how he struggled badly in AAA and the Brewers, while not flush with top end catching talent, they did have 3-4 AAA worthy catching prospects and Reetz just wasn't hitting well at that level.

One of my favorites as a kid. I like how it's not just re-creating it, but it's kinda building on it.

All of that guys shows have been great. Taylor Sheridan I think. Something like that. But Yellowstone, 1883. The next one is 1923...so, ya know, they're not the most creative in coming up with Titles, but outstanding acting. I believe that'll feature Harrison Ford and Helen Mirren. He also did Bass Reaves and he has a massive 200M dollar deal to develop more shows like Yellowstone(1883 and 1923 2 of them). I think he's also doing something about the KC Mob with Stallone.

It's not going to happen(or at least it's exceptionally unlikely to happen). With regard to the No-Trade, you'd think Yelich would be inclined to waive that to move back home(or close to it) in LA. His contract also isn't 150M underwater. That's saying he has almost literally zero value left. He's only got 156 left on the deal. 2.6 WAR this year...he's got some value. Not 132M over the next 6 year type value, and I don't think Adames would make up for that value, but I don't think it's THAT far fetched. They'd be getting back a SS who should project to be a 4.5-5 WAR SS the next two years...and then a 2-3 WAR from Yelich. The deferred money is ours. That's not something we're passing on to someone else, but the 132M+ Adames and the Brewers send roughly 6M a year over the next 6 years. The Dodgers aren't desperate though, so the Angels may be the better direction to look. There isn't a more desperate team in baseball. A SS like Adames would fit PERFECTLY into that lineup. Yelich would actually help them out in LF/DH. It might help them make a run next year(After also then going out and adding at least one starting pitcher as well). So Adames/Lauer/Yelich+22M(pay his salary next year) for Sam Bachman and a lower level prospect. Angels get a big upgrade at SS, a #3/4 SPer and a LFer who still has value atop the order and hitting leadoff in front of Trout(which should help Yelich). Brewers get a big arm back, though one who's not refined and almost certainly not going to help the Angels in the rotation next year. They also maintain payroll flexibility to try and add players to put a wining team on the field this year in an attempt to convince Ohtani to re-sign. They'd have probably ~120M in payroll space to go out and add someone like Verlander, deGrom, Rodon or any number of pitchers. You'd be giving up a lot to just get out from under Yelich, but...he also costs a lot. I expect none of this to happen, but I think you could swing that and then kinda reset the payroll moving forward. At that point, I'd just look to deal Burnes/Woody for the best deals available. Or, Yelich and his 22M really shouldn't cripple an MLB team and they could just suck it up and try and deal with it over the next 6 years. But if you're looking for a desperate team with not much of their team back and desperate to try and salvage the relationship with Ohtani, they'd be the best option...and if Rendon bounced back, Yelich/Trout/Ohtani/Rendon/Walsh/Adames/Ward/Regifo/Stassi Ohtani/Verlander/Rodon/Sandoval/Lauer They'd at least have a shot to compete. Gives them some type of hope.

Well...who am I to argue with the voters. I WILL say of the clips you have up here, Jace Avina has a beautiful swing that doesn't look like it needs any work to it. It's just quiet and smooth. It actually looks a lot like Yelich's swing but from the right side. Just a slight difference with their where they end up, but Avina has a nice, quiet looking swing, quick to the ball. Areinamo put up great numbers, but that swing looks loud. I usually don't really care much about just some highlights, but...damn, that Avina does have a really smooth looking swing that you can just picture translating at every level.

Well...who am I to argue with the voters. I WILL say of the clips you have up here, Jace Avina has a beautiful swing that doesn't look like it needs any work to it. It's just quiet and smooth. It actually looks a lot like Yelich's swing but from the right side. Just a slight difference with their where they end up, but Avina has a nice, quiet looking swing, quick to the ball. Areinamo put up great numbers, but that swing looks loud. I usually don't really care much about just some highlights, but...damn, that Avina does have a really smooth looking swing that you can just picture translating at every level.

They'll almost definitely do that. And IF they bring their rotation back next year, they'll have Gasser or Ashby to help in the pen. Also, not impossible Uribe, Ecerg, Harris, or a number of others could step in and maybe surprise. Obviously not all of them, but by the end of next year, one could. EDIT-OR they'll trade a pitcher or two or both and Adames and in which case, they probably won't be as competitive next year and will also have some young, talented arms who can fill a myriad of roles(I don't want to infer in any way they won't trade anyone and or everyone and get into another circular argument).

I'm a little uneasy about not just the SU man but the Closer to be honest. The later I will get pushback from as it's totally irrational looking at his numbers. I just feel like we're treading toward K-Rod territory rather than overwhelmingly dominant closer who throws 98MPH and then comes back with that whiffle ball change. So there is literally no tangible reason to doubt Devin Williams ability to dominant moving forward...but it's still in my head. As for our SU man...yeah, I don't know. Maybe we'll get a bit year from Bush next year. He'll throw that big curve more often and throw that upper 90's FB with very little movement a little less. I could see that being successful for him. Throwing it UP in the zone seems like it'd certainly help as right now he throws straight and 98 right down the middle and in the lower half of the zone a bit too often(hence the HRs). But Britton is a guy I'd absolutely take a chance on. I also assume any number we'd be willing to go to, the Yankees or Dodgers or whomever would be willing to go there and higher. Chapman, again, all on board, but there I'm thinking you're still gonna be paying 10+. Matt Moore though...that is an interesting option. I was just looking at him. I wasn't even sure he was THAT Matt Moore. Don't think he'll break the bank. Also don't think he'll be that overpowering SU man, but a guy who can still give you multiple innings, has swing and miss stuff. Though his numbers are buoyed by why is almost certainly an unsustainable HR/FB ratio, I'd take a flier there. Also, it'd be cool to get the guy who was rated ahead of Trout and Harper as a prospect(and that's really the goal in the end, right!) In the end, if DS is still running the show, my guess is we pick up a couple relievers with big arms and hope one of them can develop. We seem to develop relievers pretty well...though it feels like we lost more games this year due to our pen than in a long time, it's really not like you can point to any one guy. Each guy seems to blow it on a different day(other than Williams...who I have an irrational fear or imploding next year). Finally, what the hell did Jeremy Jeffress do? Guy puts up ERA's of 1.54 and 1.29 in 2 of his last 3 seasons, wants to keep pitching and nobody will sign him? Not to suggest he'd be a good SU man, just curious situation there.

The way I remember it, Villar had a great year(at least relative to expectations on a rebuilding team)...but did some stupid things which you could live with when his OBP was over .350, then the Brewers got better quicker than anyone thought and Villar was struggling to keep his OBP above .300 and the Brewers had a chance to upgrade 2B. I don't really see any correlations between the two. Villar was replaced in 2017 for two guys with OBP near .400 and the following year for Shaw and Schoop. I do not see how he was run out of town. He kinda ran himself out. Two totally different situations. Villar lost playing time to just much better player. Hiura keeps losing it and getting PH for in situations where he's the better option.

I'm a huge CC fan and think he's an underrated Manager and THIS definitely drives me nuts. If he would have started Kotsay in CF, that decision would have been defended! I'm not you can break down this season to Hiura not playing, but...it is kinda baffling how he is PH for despite clearly being the better option. And I don't wanna hear how it's because he got hit by the ball. That's a fluke play and really not his fault. Also...apropo of nothing(well...something) but if you ARE going to bench Hiura for "bad baserunning," then could you MAYBE say something to almost literally anyone else on the team for just not showing effort at times? How many times has the ball bounced 3-4 feet away on a 3rd strike, nobody on 1st and nobody even runs? Or just jogging on ground balls. Again, get this isn't little league, but that's not hard to do. This one's been annoying me for a while, but I don't wanna sound like an old man complaining about it, but IF that was the reason Hiura was taken out, poor decision making/base running...then really everyone but Mitchell...Taylor and maybe Willy should have been benched at some point this year.

4 of the 6 guys who've made the most starts for the Dodgers are either FAs or out next year. Tyler Anderson 15-2 2.52 ERA Not sure they'll completely buy into those numbers given his entire history. Kershaw, Healey also FAs, and Buehler is out for the year. They'll return Urias...good starter and a guy who's been in the BP for the most part his first four years. The guy is also 16-1, but is at 130IP this year and hasn't passed 55 prior to this year(and throws a splitter about ~30% of the time). Healey they should bring back...I'd assume, but he did have an ERA of of almost 6 in 2021. I'd be pretty surprised if they didn't go out and try and acquire at least one ace. There've been rumors Kershaw would finish his career with the Rangers for years. They could also go out and buy 3 or 4 of the top FAs as their payroll dips to a meager ~150 next year and I don't see a lot of landing spots for Turner if not back with the Dodgers. I don't know if they'll spend the prospect capital on SPing...particularly given how much is available on the FA market, but I would expect them to try and pick up at least one ace and maybe a 2nd...because why not when you're the Dodgers and you screwed the rest of the league on your TV deal.