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This is like one of those "7 ridiculous trades that we'd like to see," that... makes some sense for each side but won't happen. I think Trout waives that NTC in a heartbeat. I think the Phillies jump on the chance to bring the local kid Home. I don't see why the Angels do it. At the very least they have a HOFer who is a draw... on the rare occasions he's healthy. He could be healthier in Philly as a DH. I still feel like there's a late career run where he'll be productive for a few years. I just can't believe he'll keep being this unlucky. I like the trade... Well... the kid is 22/23 years old... and I think you're rolling the dice more on Henderson being more valuable than Lawler. I don't think you have to worry about that trade because I don't think there's any shot that the D-backs make it. They've been waiting to find a spot for him and he's been one of the best prospects for the last several years.

This is what I said after the Lions game. Do we root for the Bears or Eagles? I was half rooting for the Bears. We control our destiny and could end up with the #2 seed(maybe #1 seed) if we play just take care of business(the Broncos game will be a very tough game). MLF and Love seem like they've kinda turned a corner(for this year, over the course of his career, MLF has been great). Throwing to set up the run, Anthony Belton has been huge. Losing Wyatt was one of the worst players they could have lost, but they should have a full compliment of WRs and Wicks looks like he's turning it up at the right time. LVN need to get healthy, Brooks, Wooden. Brinson has been playing really well. He's not a pass rusher, but he's been standing in there and closing running lanes. 27-17 Packers Packers finish 4-1 to go 12-4-1, #2 seed in the NFC....

Ya don't say. How will we react if the Bears beat us 3 times in the next 6 games? Rather poorly I'd expect....

Mearns "didn't even make our NLCS roster." We faced a LHed heavy team and he did wear down. But he DID have an ERA under 3 most of the year and a WHIP under 1.00. But... fine. There's zero indication Yoho or Bukauskas are to be relied on, but SO easy to replace a guy who went through about 80% of the year with an ERA in the mid 2s and a Whip under 1. If you JUST want to go off of the end of the year, lets use Yoho's MLB performance... or again, Bukaskas's lack of one. Megill? How easy it is to replace him?

Ok. Well... you presented it as saving money and that's foolish IMO... and I can't imagine the Brewers doing that. Mears is NOT easily replaceable. You can just say he is, but... he's not. He was our #3 BP option and they used him A LOT. He wore down a little. But... I don't care. This was a discussion about the Brewers dumping payroll so they could add it and a convoluted approach at team building. Literally ANY pitcher is at risk for a flexor strain at any time. Megill was fine. We need him. This whole 'we'll just figure it out,' approach, we have MOST of the team coming back. We were in the NLCS. I'll take a 4M dollar risk that our closer will stay healthy so that we don't have to take Uribe and pigeon hole him in the 9th inning. Yoho was terrible and I honestly don't know what to say about talking about Megills injury but then looking to count on Bukauskas... who you said was pitching well as "leverage" reliever before he got hurt. That'll be 2 full years when next year opens up. He's more likely to be off the 40 man than to be on it, but we're going to trust him in the back of the pen!?!

Yeah, I'm giving the Brewers the benefit of the doubt here... They can trade Peralta(that's me giving permission🙃) and I'd be fine with it. IF the trade made sense and you just... have to make it. But I agree, I can't imagine they would be forced to do this. I'm just kinda stunned people are acting like some of these guys are so replaceable. They're pretty damn important arms. Like... keys to the Brewers success and we're going to trade them so we can upgrade probably the same position at the deadline? It makes no sense. I saw a trade proposal that just said 7 ridiculous trades we'd like to see and then they ask, "who'd say no," and... it's everyone, but personally... I'd be on board for this trade; Don't love adding Ortiz as I still think he's better than he was, but... Lowe, Diaz, you add to the offense and you get that pitching prospect who'll be there in a couple years as a potential ace. I liked Caminiti. Anyway, as a fan, show me a trade like this, the prized prospect(and I think highly of Caminiti). But I don't see how you sell just flat out dumping payroll and I don't think they will.

Losing BP depth definitely hurts and you're just... casually throwing our closer.. who threw pretty damn well in the playoffs and now has all off-season to recover and a very good SU man away for... minimal savings. You don't trade your closer on a whim because you have Uribe. Urbie is a SU man. ON top of that, you're just trading away the 7th inning reliever to save 1.5-1.6(his projected arbitration numbers by spotract and MLB.com). I think that will matter a lot. A reliever with a Whip under 1.00 is... pretty good. 7 1/3 IP 3H 1BB 12Ks in the playoffs, came back last year and was his usual self. We're going to trade away that 4.4M for what? I don't think Mears makes sense, but... fine. We're going to do this just in case? In case maybe he has elbow problems? They said it was a grade 1 strain. He came back. If the Brewers are dumping their closer because he MIGHT get hurt and they want to save 4.4M, that'd be ridiculous. They just had a playoff run that should result in them ADDING payroll, not trading their most important pitchers(or at least their Ace and their Closer). Bukauskas? The guy who pitched 6 innings for the Brewers... in LOW leverage situations for us in 2024 and then has missed most of the last two years? That's a guy we're seriously citing as we talk about BP depth and dumping Megill? Yoho was terrible. He should get better. I don't want him taking over for Megill. Just because the Brewers can find solid pitchers doesn't mean you just toss away a guy who throws 100 wtih a plus knuckle curve and can get the last 3 outs of the game. And who do you suppose we'll trade for at the deadline... and what would the propsect capital be... just to get right back to where we are right now? Megill-4.2M Elite closer Peralta-8M top 5 Cy Young Voting Mears-One of our highest leverage relievers last year(behind just Uribe and Megill)-1.5 I have 13.5M So a savings of ~11.2 so we can... come back at the deadline and add players and keep the payroll where it was last year. If we're trading these guys for money... then I'd have to change my opinion and say the Brewers really are not trying to win a WS. That would be the definition of just trying to hang around each year and be good enough to be in the mix, NOT good enough to win. The added revenue from the playoffs and we can't even maintain our payroll? And we add a Shelby Miller or a.. whoever, Mark Canha. But we mostly replace them with hope. Hope that we can find another couple pitchers who can produce like these guys. If something happens to one of our existing pitchers in the pen, we are REALLY in trouble. You're also kinda making the decision for the coaches that Ashby will not be a starter. There's really no way you could take another arm out of the pen. You need more than one dominant reliever. We rode our Pen too hard as it was last year. Mears was outstanding until you got late in the year and he wore down. But he was the guy coming in and putting out fires in the 5th, 6th...whenever needed. I thought we should be looking to ADD to the pen. Not subtract 2 of our top 3 HL relievers. This would be EXTREMELY disheartening. The layoff run should have added at LEAST 20M to the Brewers revenue(conservatively). If the argument is that we can get exactly who we want for Peralta, I could live with that, but this team doing this to dump salary would be a gut punch. And you really can't just replace pitchers like them with no drop off. WE're pretty good... I don't see who is going to step in with with respect to J.B. Bukauskas

Sure... I don't think he'll be traded to the Brewers either. I don't agree it'll be because the large market teams will beat us. We could get him if we wanted to. I just... don't think we'll do it. But we could!

Absolutely ALL speculation based. They may want to cut some payroll so they have room to add later... and the players they'll use to do so are POTENTIALLY Freddy Peralta and his 8M deal, Trevor Megill, our closers, part of the duo at the back of the pen that features two elite closers, and then Nick Mears... who is due to make 1.7M. Oh, and then the brilliant suggestion. The Brewers are concerned about their payroll. So what are they going to do? Well, since this is like the NFL and it always makes sense to just add years to a deal to lower this years salary, the Brewers are going to extend Woodruff to a longer team deal, but for less than 22.5M a year. So they'll make a LESS responsible decision(if they're worried about payroll) and go 3 years and 60M on Woodruff to save a couple million or they're trade Nick Mears and his 1.7M... Ya know, because the Brewers do this every year and in order to add, they'll have to subtract. The ACTUAL quote with regard to Woodruff was; So it really sounds like they're... just making things up because the Brewers had a player accept the QO. I honestly don't think they'd have any trouble at all trading Woodruff. Nathon Evoldi was the comp for his contract. I think he accepted because he wanted to be back in Milwaukee and the Brewers, namely owner Mark Attanasio wanted him back. ONE more comment regarding this... which... just drives me nuts in general, but Mark Attanasio owns about 34-39% of the Brewers. He's their principal owners, not the majority. But the 40%... that's... really "out of touch." Especially for fans who I think know better. That's a good talking point when you're trying to troll another team, but... it lacks ANY nuance that I would expect.

You trade 4.2M in Megill so you can... do what at the deadline? Try and add another high leverage reliever? I'm fine with Mears, even though I think it's a bad idea. The whole article sounds like just... complete speculation. It even suggests they sign Woodruff to an extension for a lower AAV so their payroll isn't as high It's... really annoying. They're still paying for the AZ facilities, the DR, they just bought a minor league affiliate, they have to pay the staff, everyone. If you're going to go by Forbes numbers, 2024- net revenue; LA Dodgers- 25M Milwaukee Brewers- 21M LA Dodgers- 353 Taxable Payroll-Brewers 114 That accounts for the 48% that teams take from their local revenue and pay in...except it's like the tax Code where it's pretty convoluted. The Dodgers for instance... they don't have to pay their full TV deal because of how it was structured and because if you own your TV rights, you're taking on extra risk and have an ownership stake apparently. I don't know, I don't fully understand the MLB CBA. BUT... I do know that framing it as though we're paying 40% of our revenue toward payroll is... pretty misleading. It suggests we're like the Hntington family and not trying to compete. PLUS, the Brewers had some pretty large capital expenditures in the past few years. 1-Dominican Republican Academy. State of the art facility in AZ and the Carolina Affiliate and their investment in their ~75M stadium. They had Rick Schlesinger on to talk about those investments and while they initially committed around 20M to the first round of the DR facility(when it had 22 Dorms) the 31 Acre facility now has 120-some dorms and the price ballooned both there as well as the AZ facility that was originally projected to cost 60M and due to Covid, supply shortages, it escalated to over 100M. ALSO during this time, the Low A Carolina Affiliate... which we don't know what they spent to buy the team (generally about 20M) or to invest in the Stadium(though estimated at 35M). That, as well as Miller Park investments is a WHOLE lot of money from ~2018 and they likely have pretty significant debt payments each year when added together. EITHER way... I expect to see the "the Brewers spend 40% of their revenue on their payroll," but a... very Twitter like post that leaves out all context or the fact the Brewers STILL end up with less net revenue than the Dodgers.

Yup... the same delusional ones who said they wouldn't miss Ben Johnson. I don't think the Bears are as good as their record this year, but Ben Johnson has to be the coach of the year. Now Detroit is on the outside looking in. "Michael" as he's known by Jerry... he should have never been on the market. Myles Garrett or Max Crosby, a team rebuilding with a superstar Edge who could get you a couple firsts, they made sense... and one of those two said the only other team that'd consider playing for was the Lions. I thought they'd end up being the ones who'd give up almost anything to get that player opposite Hutchinson. Instead dude just terrorized them. Even when he was lined up over Sewell, he made him look bad a couple times. The type of OT who only gives up 1-2 sacks a year and Parsons made him look... average. I also remember posting I don't remember a less enthusiastic feel to the Packers during camp and heading into the season... and then like 2 days later the Parsons trade happened. This was after the rumor they'd agreed to 45M a year, btu before anyone took it seriously. Or... at least I didn't. Who trades a 26 year old LT type player. Finally... I was frustrated that MLF was so conservative, but dude swung ALL the way in the other direction and did his best Dan Campbell impression.

I'd be alright either way. Bears beat the Eagles, the Packers just take care of business and they'd have a shot at the #2 seed. The #1 seed isn't out of reach, but that game @ Denver is one game we should be underdogs in. Hell, we could lose any of the games remaining without it being a big upset. but if the offense can get rolling, get Reed back... we could go on another run. Losing Wyatt hurts though. There's only 5-6 players who are more important IMO. Love, Parsons, Watson, Tom... and that may be it. They're saying they "fear ligament damage" to his ankle, but... MLF gave the "I'm sick for him," thing which... has pretty much been the "his season's over" line.

I still have a lot of hope for Morgan, but he is just not a good fit at Guard(especially RG) now that we've gone to a gap blocking scheme. He's just not physical enough. But at OT? He's athletic and I think he can be a pretty good LT. You can just see it in his pass blocking vs his run blocking. He's just not physical enough to move NTs or DTs, but he's good in pass protection. I don't know though, I haven't seen enough of him at LT. We'll see next year and I think they should make some moves on the OL(move on from Banks, Jenkins probably gone unless he'll take a new restructured contract) and maybe you have to go back to FA and spend... which is less than ideal. Tyler Linderbaum(the ghost of drafting a Center from OSU instead of Oklahoma still haunting us). But I'm not convinced he's a bust yet. It IS two years into his career and he hasn't made a significant impact though, so I can't argue that he is a bust as of now. On a side note... I wonder if the Packers franchise Walker. His projected salary is 4/90 and... if you can pick up a 3rd or a 4th... could be worth it. Or risk a big cap hit. Sean Rhyan playing well at center though, THAT is something I never would have seen coming.

Anthony Belton has also been A HUGE piece to this OL. Had a whole lot of Alim McNiel, was moving guys at the point of attack, opening some holes. I think we hit on him. Either as a future OT(he could be a RT next year, Tom as a LT) or just right where he is.

I've been a huge fan of Wicks and hope this earns him more targets. I DO feel there's SOME hint that this is similar to the 2010 season if you can get all the WRs healthy, you have'; Watson Golden Reed Doubs Wicks Williams Musgrave... who made some big play today.

.... ok. I STILL would not have done it, but... I'm very happy they did!

That's kinda crazy. The loss of Ben Johnson has cost them at least 2 games. Frank Ragnow coming back may have been a week too late. Dallas next week is a must win. Detroit is far too talented to be a 7-5 team.

I mean... a good punt and they start inside the ~10 or so. But I agree with you. I would have run the RPO and taken the P out of it on 3rd down. But again, you can't complain about LaFleur not trusting Love all year and then... get upset when he trusts him and he hits the WR in the hands on 3rd and 4th down. There cannot be a SHRED of doubt at this point Love is CAPABLE of being a top 3-5 QB and an MVP. You can still doubt his consistency, but... he can make any throw and he can create with his legs. Now I'm just worried we get bad news about Wyatt. REALLY hoping for an MCL or a high ankle sprain.

That's what I'm saying. On 3rd and 3, I'd have ran it. If you DON'T get it, I'd have punted. But... I'm sure everyone who agrees this was the wrong decision is JUST as happy as I am to be wrong!

Well... I said I wanted MLF to put his trust in Love... but that was a BIT much... Wow. That's... brilliant I guess now that it worked? Everyone will say how smart it was. And if Wicks doesn't get it... that's a "Fire MLF week!" Wrong call, right outcome!

I'd have just ran the ball and then punted it and made Detroit go the length of the field with 1;20 left. I do NOT understand this one at all...

WHAT are they DOING? If there was EVER a time for MLF to be conservative... THAT'S the situation!

Ok, so down to the 2 minute. WORST case, we don't get it. The Lions get the ball with ~1:20 or so left... hopefully inside their own 10. We won't do it, but a little read option and Love keeping the ball would be a good call here. We RARELY call that and they'll be selling out for Jacobs.

We'll run it the next 2 times here...

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