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Seems unlikely they'd make another trade like Hader(but more consequential) after seeing how last year went, but also just because there are so many possible starting pitchers available. Giolito, Cease, Bieber, Webb, Rodriguez....and then some guy who thinks he can pitch AND hit and be successful at it. So seems unlikely we'll get that Godfather offer to even make it worth considering. Meanwhile, any offer for Adames is going to be for a ~2 WAR player rather than the ~4 WAR player he actually is. Seems as likely now that the Brewers let him play it out until Free Agency than they trade him(maybe a QO if he has a big year next year). I did read one funny line while reading one deadline list of players who should/could be traded; I guess a team that trades a future HOF 3B on a...pretty good deal, then eats I believe it was 80M of it(with the option picked up) and doesn't get back one elite prospect...that line is fitting. STL ended up getting him for ~22M a year.

Good teams have players who come out of nowhere. I'm not sure we're the prior yet or that he'll be the later, but it's baseball...it happens.

I'd heard it...never in a million years would I have been able to come up with it and only remembered I'd heard of it when I saw he was a former Angels farmhand. I saw him pinch hitting and said aloud who the-__ is that...and before the word that came out, the ball left his bat at 108 and was going over Tauchman's head! So more vaguely remember who he was I guess more than the name. I won't be forgetting soon.

I'm exceptionally skeptical about a Harden trade. That the Bucks would even look into it. Harden has a no-trade clause and expects a max contract. It makes very little sense from the Bucks standpoint and it makes absolutely no sense from the Sixers. They're holding off on giving Maxey an extension so they have room to add a max deal next year in Free Agency(even with a 13M cap hold for Maxey they should have ~70M in cap space)...so why trade for Jrue and lose that ability to sign a player before they give Maxey a max level extension? It'd undermine everything they've done...unless Jrue opts out, but you'd have to be hoping he does. I'd imagine they'd be targeting Siakam, Hield and then once they sign them, give Maxey his deal. They're in a position the Bucks are hoping to be in 2 years from now. As for Giannis, It'd be more surprising if Giannis signed now than if he didn't. Giannis JUST made a social media post that his career in Milwaukee is "half over" and how much he still wants to do here. He's halfway through his deal...it seems premature to worry about his next deal. Make the right moves and decisions and there's no indication Giannis won't stick around. And Lopez has yet to sign. The Bucks can still make trades, combine salaries, take on more money than they send out. These are all just agreed upon deals...I don't think I see them making a deal, but if the Pacers wanna send Buddy Hield to use for Allen and Connaughton...I'd be game. I wonder if they'd use Portis though? If they perhaps kept Crowder, added Robin Lopez for the purpose? I think it'd be a bad idea to do that to Portis after all he's done to stay in Milwaukee, but Hield is the ideal fit on this team, but it also feels like Indiana wants to keep their options open next year(hence Browns 2 year 45M deal that has a TO for year 2).

The only reason I'd really want to trade Jrue would be for an upgrade as he's been pretty clear he's done in 2 years(maybe 1 more year). I don't see Harden being that upgrade. He may put up points and assist totals, but I just don't think he's a great player at this stage(or even a real #2 star). Beal had his warts, but he was about as good as we could have done...he chose Pho. 25-26 we should have a ton of cap room and it's a huge FA class(though again, always is 2 years out). Giannis will have to do some planning and banana-boating if he wants to have success here long term-as in after the next 2 years. Or the Bucks will have to get exceptionally lucky. Beauchamp, Livingston, both could be stars. Not all that likely either one became a #2 on a Title caliber team, but we'll see.

That's how he's been used thus far. I did get to see him play in HS and he just laid the wood on guys. It was impressive. Now...that's HS, but there have been a lot of talented players to come from that conference and he's the best I've seen.

25, 12K per 9 last year in AA. Threw 2.1 IP this year, went on the IL May 7th, that's all I can find...beyond his scouting report which sounds filthy. Sits in the 96-99 range, touches triple digits, wild, but has a splitter and slider that apparently get a ton of movement, but like most guys with this profile, struggles with walks. Beyond that, I don't know. I tend to jump to TJ when I see a pitcher struggle, then miss a couple months, but maybe they're working with him in the famous pitching lab trying to get some things ironed out. Given he was a throw in with Contreras, anything out of him is gravy, but he's would anyone be shoced to see him throwing the 8th inning for the Brewers next year? I'm still holding out hope. He's been such a good hitter and the last week or so he's had really good ABs. I think given who our options are, he's worth giving a little more rope to. But he'll probably end up like McCuth and end up in Cincy next year with a top 10 BA, OBP, and whatever else they rattled off when pointing out how good he'd been. Speaking of which, not the forum for it, but if the Pirates were to sell, I'd be more than happy to step behind that Donkey and hope he didn't kick me again. But assuming they'll hold onto a franchise Icon having a great year.

That's a big one. If he'd picked 'Bama(who offered) he'd be a top 150 prospect in about 6 weeks). 2nd highest rated CB the Badgers have picked up in the "internet recruiting era," per TheAthletic. 2nd straight year with a 4 star. They've got a top 150 Safety who should be emerging this year in Woehler. This staff has a LOT of momentum. More than I could have possibly imagined this time last year. Their '24 class was already a top 20 class and if they can routinely pull in top 20 classes with competent QBs, get the OL play back up to par...I don't think it'll happen, but I COULD see this team in the CFP in the future....down the road. This year, B1G West is very winnable.

I'm trying to check on the minor league box scores and the thread discussing tonight's results and it's showing me an error sign. Anyone else having an issue with this?

No...I think if he was hands on, you'd have seen a trade that would have seen a Frelick/Wiemer/Turang or whatever combination of young players for a bat. I believe Stearns intentionally operated conservatively so if a move came up, he didn't have to push ownership into agreeing to it. I believed Mark A when he said there was no player they couldn't acquire last year due to payroll issues for this year or this year and the next.

I think he's been hands off for the most part the last 4-5 years(he was back during the Suppan era). I do think he kinda handed the reins to Stearns and just gave him guidelines. I believe Attanasio when he said that Stearns and Arnold called and said they "had something they wanted to do with Hader." I don't believe that was pushed by ownership because it didn't save them money. I also believe they COULD spend more money, but not a whole lot. I completely disagree Stearns would be a "complete disaster" with the Mets payroll. They're spending nearly half a billion(would have been over if Correa would have passed his physical) as it is. So not only is it absurdly high bar to be a "disaster in NY," with that payroll, but his big flaws have been what? LoCain, then signing Yelich off the two best offensive seasons(arguably) in Brewers history and...who else? Peralta? Ashby? They made a 9 figure offer to Darvish the same off-season they signed LoCain and traded for Yelich. Those aren't "disaster" moves for the Cohen Mets, those are average salaries for non-arbitration players. They were barely "disaster" moves for the Brewers. Cohen has talked about how he wants to build a farm system and be the Dodgers of the East(he's already blowing past that financially). But they've already got Alvarez and Baty up. Lindor for 340M, Sherzer and Verlander at 43M AAV(I don't think that's bad for short deals TBH though they don't look great). Nimmo...a solid contract. 20M a year for a ~4 WAR CFer. And arguably the best closer. If the Brewers had that type of payroll, I feel fairly confident Burnes and Woodruff would be locked up for another 5 years, Hader would have signed an extension. Yelich as well I'm sure. Maybe Adames...Williams would likely have signed an extension by now. I think as much as anything, the Dodgers and teams with big payrolls who ALSO want to build top farm systems, the payroll gives them the luxury of not pushing those prospects. It also gives them massive scouting departments and just benefits you in every way. I really can't imagine how Stearns would be a disaster having an extra 200+ million to spend with 4 top 100 prospects, plus a top 5 overall prospect now in the Bigs in Alvarez and a top 20 60 feet away from him in Baty. The Mets REALLY don't have terrible long term deals relative to their silly payroll. They're playing poorly, they're going to sell at the deadline and add to their farm system...maybe they even add a couple prospects for Verlander/Scherzer and then paying some of either deal(obviously). He'd walk in and have to be salivating. He could easily sign an Ohtani, a guy like Urias...hell, if he wanted, a Josh Hader. But these contracts are always going to look bad on the backend. That's true for everyone. The Dodgers minimize that but even they have that issue(Betts I doubt will look great in 2032 at 30M), I assume Stearns will as well and stay away from those 12 year deals as much as possible, but they all look bad at the end. That's part of being a big market and players in free agency. Ohtani, Diaz, a more competent manager and there's absolutely no reason that team can't get back to 100 wins. I still think they can make a push to get into the WC chase.

He has. Peguero has as well. Wilson. I think the Brewers win this one long term...but there's more context to it. That Oakland loved Ruiz so much changes the whole deal. Side note, there's no chance BRef is accurate with Hader's height, right? They have him listed as 5'10? I thought he was at least 6'3 if not taller. Devin Williams is not 4 inches taller than him...right?

That Lamet decision made absolutely no sense and it was CLEARLY a roster issue and not intended all along as was presented to us. Irrespective of what Lamet has since done(plus, don't we consider the Brewers pretty good at developing pitchers and helping them fix their issues) that REALLY annoyed me. The subsequent trades made a ton of sense. Contreras has improved so much defensively. He really only filled the Renfroe hole offensively, but that's worth a ton for a passable defensive catcher vs a RFer. Payamps has been exceptional. One of the confusing things to me is Gasser not getting the call yet. I guess it's more about roster manipulation. They could deal with throwing Pannone once and then discarding him(which kinda sucks as he seemed like he could be of use as a long man). But Gasser has been pitching so well, he seems like he should be getting the call fairly quickly. I'd say by the next Houser start? Andrews back to AAA, Gasser up, Monasterio/Toro DFA? I'd also be good with Uribe. That's 2 40 man spots, but with Turang, not sure it has to be an either or with Monasterio and Toro. So add those two, if options become an issue with either, things have not worked out. So I wouldn't be bothered by burning one.

I mentioned him, Lane Thomas and Grichuk. I think it's probably just as simple as doing what I did. Went to look at the teams with the worst records, and in my case, specifically looked at RHHers and came up with Grichuk as an obvious one and likely cheap. Lane Thomas as more expensive as he has a few years of team control(and is probably overperforming, and really more than we need) and Canelario for the IF. The Brewers problem though is they have either prospects who seem destined to be part of their future(Misi, Black, Felick, obviously Chourio and Quero) and then I hate the idea of trading away an 18/19 of even 20 year old like Para, Mendez, Guillarte(especially Guillarte)...even Jace Avina. They probably don't have much value in a trade and they have obvious upside. It's like we're lacking players in AAA who are low end prospects save for maybe Small and same with AA. Who do we have that we really want to give up for this team? My own answer may change if Adames, Tellez, Winker start hitting just...anywhere near their projected numbers, otherwise...I mean, I'm an optimist, but I'm not considering Black for anything but a player with at least...some team control beyond this year. I guess Justin Jarvis is an option...but if history is any indication, he's gonna get flipped for a 5.00 ERA reliever(may not be totally fair, but Reese Olsen for Norris NEVER made sense and Antoine Kelly for Bush certainly didn't work).

I guess *IF Jimmy and Dee Haslem want to take some of that NFL money and get into a second professional sports team in Milwaukee...that'd be fine. They bought about 33% of the Bucks, correct? The Bucks are worth~2X as much as the Brewers...I guess. That doesn't sound right, but the Brewers are appraised at 1.6B the Bucks at 3.5B. Mark A owns roughly 40% of the Brewers? I guess that would be one route. But as rich as these people ALL are, you're not going to find many people interested in buying the Brewers, spending 175 and losing 30 or 40M a year. I suppose it's possible they could invest in the team, raise the ticket prices to league average and have a run like the Guardians did in the 90s and they wouldn't be losing nearly that much, but it's unlikely. If I was a billionaire and as a result the chances are I wouldn't care at all about the people of Milwaukee, I'd be looking at public funding in Nashville and moving my team down to what's a growing and thriving city with a larger TV market. Not much larger, but it's economy is booming, it's one of the fastest growing metro area's in the Country and is probably the perfect place for a stadium. So yeah, be careful what you wish for. We know we're safe in GB, but we've had ownership groups in both Milwaukee teams who made staying in Milwaukee a condition of selling and even facilitated new stadiums/arenas to make that happen. Will Mark A take a deal few hundred Million less to sell to someone dedicated to staying in Milwaukee? Hope so...doubt the Bronx native and LA resident has a fraction of the loyalty as the guy who fought to bring a team to Milwaukee(and who should be hailed as a hero by Brewer faithful, but instead of kinda villainized by many).

That's almost unheard of and yet it seems totally reasonable with the Brewers and Counsell. Seems hard to believe Pat Murphy taking over and then handing the job back to CC. I think it's more likely that they'd just look for another manager and move into the FO, but could be Murphy.

I will place a bet with you that Counsell does not leave HIS childhood team, one that he's free to run as he sees fit and is located minutes away from where he grew up, where his children play...all to go to NYC and take on one of the most scrutinized jobs in Baseball. But we'll see.

You realize not everything is some nefarious act, right? The idea that he was working for the Mets on his way out, that both sides are violating his contract because his firm, not him, his firm had to pay a fine for insider trading does not mean he's illegally conversing with Stearns. And man, what a moron he'd have to be to "all but announce that," last night if that was the case, no? It sounds like you took what EVERYONE believed to be true, ie, Stearns to the Mets...and you then extrapolated that to Stearn is working behind the scenes for the Mets while still with the Brewers because he's mad the Brewers wouldn't just let him out of his contract(because what do those silly little things mean) early to go work for the Mets. You realize the two people you mentioned are out of Baseball...not because of how qualified they are, but because they cheated. They're viewed as dirty. You REALLY think after everything we saw from Stearns, that's how HE acts? Even if you want to attribute that behavior to Cohen as the Owner of the Mets, that's....kinda silly.

Well, it's not certain, it's wild speculation on your behalf. He was WELL compensated. But how'd he "salt the Earth?" Attanasio was emphatic that the Brewers could have added payroll to the team. That it was strictly Stearns call to trade Hader...which led directly to a 24 year old catcher coming off an AS season as well as a pitching prospect in AAA who looks like he's close to stepping into the rotation. So what moves can we look to that he was somehow working on behalf of the Mets and not...I guess trying to win for the Brewers? I'm really not even sure what you're speculating about here.

I thought this was the worst hidden secret in Baseball. Stearns, the Mets fan growing up, started out with the Mets, denied multiple times the oppurtunity to interview with the Mets, now free from the Brewers would likely be AGAIN pursued by the Mets. The idea that they're risking pretty substantial penalties by tampering with someone under contract or...what's far more ridiculous, that Stearns would be sabotaging the Brewers and be making moves for the Mets last year is really out there. I can't imagine anyone being "mocked" because they believed Stearns was destined for the Mets. For the rest, that makes sense. What evidence would there be that he was working on behalf of the Mets? If we'd traded Chourio, Misiorowski, Quero, Frelick and company for Lindor's bloated contract, it might give me cause to question his decisions, but otherwise it's just a bit out there.

They've actually got quite a bit of young talent...and their contracts really aren't that bad. They have Scherzer and Verlander locked up for another year and 2 years respectively. Most of their contracts outside of Lindor, Diaz and Nimmo are done after this year. And...who cares? They were going to sign Correa and only didn't because of a medical issue. They'll probably make the biggest offer to Ohtani next off-season. They're not exactly limited because of the bad contracts they do have. Cohen may be pissed that he's spending and the team is playing poorly, but as for their farm system, Alvarez was the #1 prospect in baseball last year and he's 21 years old. Batty was top 20 heading into last year, he's 23. They have 4 more top 100 prospects and #5 has been on and off the MLB.com top 100. I don't see a Brewers re-boot being plausible. If Verlander and Scherzer start throwing better(they haven't been bad) then I guess you could trade a couple of ~40 year old pitchers on short deals if you eat some of it. Beyond that, they're either locked into a player or they are young talented players.

You see Burnes fire the ball into the ground? You see him screaming into his glove? I don't think a lack of motivation is the problem...and baseball is a sport that gets harder the more you press. I don't think there's anything wrong with his motivation. He may not love the front office, but seems like he cares about his teammates more than he dislikes anyone running the team.

I don't think there's any question he's capable of that...but what if he's a GG CFer? Are we maybe assuming he's a RFer due to his size and that throwing arm? Despite all the reports on his defense and even earlier in the season, I assumed he'd move to RF as well, but he is incredible in CF. Better than Mitchell IMO. He took some poor routes at times. Still covered a ton of ground, but seems like Wiemer has been about as good as you can get out there. And we prioritize a RFers arm more than you do in CF, but isn't it at least as useful in CF? More balls hit your way, more chances to make plays? Chourio/Frelick both have 45 grades on their arms and 70 speed. Chourio's seems a little underrated, but either way, both are below Mitchell(60) and Wiemer. It'll be interesting to see how they configure it when the time comes, but Wiemer's only issues seem to be going back on the ball and he's gotten better at that. Whatever they do, whoever ends up getting traded, it's going to be important to keep Tyler Black on the dirt somehow. Even if it's 1B(though ideally 3B and then 2B) and he doesn't put up prototypical 1B power numbers. That OBP, ability to put the ball in play and speed, he'd be a bit wasted as an OFer with this group.

I'd have said that about Tellez, but Winker was one season removed from being an really good hitter. He was a terrible OFer which is why I thought DH would be a good fit. Both have seen their hard hit % and EV's drop quite a bit though(Winker especially back to '21). Is it though? He's been one of the best defensive CFers in baseball...

Ok, I'm not really interested in how big of a sample size before you determine a good hitter who's struggling isn't a good hitter anymore as the actual point I was making isn't changed at all. A new "voice" isn't going to make them suddenly start hitting. You can't motivate people into hitting in Baseball. They try harder and they're likely going to struggle more.