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Effort once the game was kinda put away has been... a little less enthusiastic. No Parsons. There were plays with 9 Packers in pursuit and getting to or near the ball. Just a... dull ending after 27-10.

Well... I hope Belton gets to learn more under Tom and this OL gets to learn more together as that's been the only weak spot I've noticed thus far. Giving up pressures on blitzes. This is good preparation for Minnesota later in the year, but, I'd like to see the ball out quickly in the hands of Golden, Wicks, whomever and have a cleaner possession. BUT...27-10 over the NFCCG losers Washington after the 15-2 Detroit Lions... that's a pretty minor gripe and one that's easier to overcome with this Micah lead defense.

And right on cue, Quay comes screaming up the middle...

Walker has been great this year. He missed a tackle in space, but vs the run and rushing the passer, he's been very good.

Just so average or even bad on offense and they go down and score when they need it. I love this two TE package with Jacobs... and this offense is going to be so much better with Tom and Banks back.

Micah time here...

Carrington is jumping out, Nixon is playing the ball... but I think a lot of it is speeding up that QBs clock.

Still playing just a little sloppy on offense. Get Brooks in that game for pass pro. They've gotta be able to block 5 and they need hot reads.

They got that one to start this half... was there another one they got that I missed?

Musgrave getting involved... that could be a big element to the offense...

They start at the 35 otherwise. We should be able to cover better than that.

`And... off the upright. Gotta convert that. Still, sloppy offense vs a very good team and it's 14-3 and we've dominated the Commanders. I wonder if... MAYBE you lineup Micah at LE so he can face the rookie RT instead of another Pro-Bowl OT? Anyway, another good half by the offense, dominant half by the defense.

Don't want to get greedy, but... that holding sucks and I'd LOVE to see the Packers go up 21-3 here...

Having a defense like THIS... was a dream. I just wanted one good enough for our offense to have a shot if they scored 28. I mean... no point in relitigating the past, but this is the type of defense that if you give MOST of the Packers teams from 2011-2022, we're winning those Pats Super Bowls. "The big guys can run and the little guys can hit." And then the offense, they can get away with a couple of missed opportunities because they just get the ball back. Lots of time left, but the defense is looking like some of the better defenses we've seen the last 15 years. As good as those Seattle defenses, the 49ers... whoever. They look like they're right up there. Bullard tonight has been a menace.

Ooh...thought Heath got that...

...and they just miss him... DAMN.

Offense needs to put together another drive here. Get Golden the ball in space. Quick screen, take a shot, whatever.

Yeah... this is crazy. Watching a dominant defense in GB. Even when Parsons isn't in, they're playing great. I liked LVN... Gary, Wyatt(did not see the Wooden impact coming as a 295LB DT) but I didn't see THIS coming.

In 4 years time, between Made, Pena, Adamczewski, Pratt, they should have SS and 2B covered... as much as Turang has been a favorite. You can't pay him for being a platinum defender and a power hitting 2B. He hasn't shown he's both in the same year. Edit-I certainly believe he can, I'm just saying... he hasn't. If I were him, I'd be working out in AZ on his arm strength. If he gets another shot to win the SS job, that's when his earning potential could sky rocket.

I can't imagine what the injury would have been. He was standing there, didn't see him get rolled up. Look like he may have gotten kicked? I don't know, but... hopefully it's nothing.

Until you posted that... thanks young gunn!

Yeah, based on what we've seen. That could also be a shoulder injury. A dislocated shoulder... but probably collarbone. So... 2 months and then his foot heals I guess. I don't know... Belton needs some help. I also don't like Golden returning punts. Not because of that play, but we're going to need him too much.

That'd be great. He could hit dudes... he didn't always wrap up in College, but he brought that hit stick with him. And I wouldn't have thought he could get of blocks or be a 4-3 Mike, but that's going back to Missou, so... if he brings that physical element and Hafley's had time to coach him up. The more young guys we can find who can contribute...obviously that's huge. Speaking of which... Eric Wilson looked like a very good LBer for the Vikings again. Blocked a punt and was all over on STs and defense.... at least vs the run. Not that it's relevant, just... it's easy to root for guys like that.

On the first part... I'm skeptical, but I didn't watch much, so I'll reserve judgement... or defer to those of you who did watch him. On the 2nd part, I probably need to adjust my expectation a bit. Yes, they said they wanted to keep Quay, but... you sign contracts like that, you DO need to make tough decisions. Or... again, you could say "screw it, we're just going to keep kicking the can down the road." I'd imagine we do a bit of both these next 5-6 years through Love's prime. I just got off the phone with my old man, I love watching the games with him or talking to him and he said he thinks this could be the best Packers team he's seen(he saw the late 60s teams, but he was young), but I started to say, "eh, maybe we should slow down on this defense, this team," and then I thought... 'nah, screw it, this team IS that talented. It wouldn't shock me to see Walker leave, especially with Cooper and he may price himself out of GB with how free he should be running around this defense. If THAT game was Parson's "struggling" vs the run... he stood Sewell up and force Gibbs outside for a 6 yard loss. On other plays they needed two to block him and Quay and Cooper were running around like they had red jersey's on. NOW that energy, speed and size of Quay's becomes more valuable. LOL... it's understandable!

Yeah, I've seen Walker(Rasheed) reported a couple times and once it was "OT Rasheed Walker." I've been skeptical of all of those. Not with Tom, the draft capital and his injury risk. As for Jenkins, I think it forces Jenkins to either get cut or extended. You save 20M cutting him. Our Cap is still in good shape mostly. FAs Just a little aside, I think we're going to be really good, so chances are guys get a bit more money as you do coming from a good team. Not as much as you did in the 90s, but...still. Doubs= I think he walks and gets a nice 4 year 60M deal. That's not really that much anymore. Cap will be 300M next year. Maybe more? I'm calling it, a QB gets 100M AAV by 2031. A couple years after the NFL opts out of it's TV deal of 11/111B that they think is now under-market. Walker-24-28M a year, 40 GTD money Rhyan-I'm starting to think we may keep him. He's become a good pass protector but his run blocking isn't as great. I think he'll become more complete and they will give him 5/75, 35SB. Quay Walker-I'd let him walk and I'm a MUCH bigger fan than most. Packers seem to like him as well. 4/55M 20M GTD? This is really early, but... they like him and the game should be easier for him. Malik Willis-He's worth 10M AAV. Just can't be from us. A team like Washington where he fits the offense you have and can kinda fit what you've already got at QB. Kingsley Enagbare-Love Enagbare. 3/30 maybe? But LVN, Gary, Sorrell who I like, Oliver at some point(though not the same player). If he has 6-7 sacks, that's a pretty reasonable contract. Maybe I'm high on his deal, but... I think he'll get 4 years Brenton Cox Jr-Nice depth, gone. Maybe 1/4M Malik Heath- Again, nice depth, probably signs with Minnesota with Brenton. John Fitzpatrick- Really nice #3 TD. Blocking, can catch the ball, just solid..a 3.5M a year type player I guess. Potential Cap Casualties Jenkins ~25M cap hit ~5M cap savings- *Kenny Clark was on this list and I kinda looked at next years cap with both being gone. It was like 31M cap hit and 17M in dead cap for Clark IIRC. Aaron Banks 24M Cap Hit 20M Dead Cap Nate Hobbs 14M Cap Hit 13 Dead Cap I don't think it's crazy to think they could move off Banks or Hobbs if they don't have a good year or are injured. I think it's very unlikely, but our big FA signings both came with some risk...and relatively low GTD money. It'd have to be pretty bad, but... they're carrying 55M in dead cap again. Jenkins, I could see a 2 year 34M extension... but that's going to depend on how confident they are in their depth and of course how he looks at center. Right now it's going to be Morgan/Banks/Monks/Belton/Tom in a year from now based on what you'd expect. Extension candidates- Take a page from Jerry Jones and...do the opposite -Tucker Kraft-I think they have to keep him. Brings that attitude -Luke Musgrave- I don't know what he is yet. I know he's a great athlete, but...just hasn't put it together. -Wicks-I love Wicks, but you're going to have to give somewhere. He reminds me of Adams so much though. -Jayden Reed-He's been a core player, the Jones fracture is a big concern and I think this is a big part of why he's playing through it. -Colby Wooden-...I mean, it's one week, but...he looked REAL important -Wyatt...He'll be 28 when he's due to be a FA -Watson-He's signed through next year, but this reminds me of the Love deal going into his 5th year. -Carrington Valentine- Right now he looks like our #1 CB... This is when it gets REALLY touch. If you can get guys like Reed, Wicks for 4/60 type extensions, you do it, but maybe a bit of a luxury. We could keep literally everyone... and then when Jordan Love is 33, be in the situation the Saints started to get into near the ends of Brees and that's taken on a life of it's own and they are going to have 300M in just DEAD cap from 2024-2026 and they're still projected to be ~16M over the 2026 cap...and that's with Ryan Ramzcek retiring and saving them a lot of money. So they can play with the cap...and if you win, it's worth it, but if you get too far, you're going to be way over the cap without a couple years of 1st rd picks. So they have to be smart, but it's a fine line. But getting out and signing guys early is almost always smarter. Zach Tom, again, he'd have probably been one of the top FA's if we hadn't re-signed him. So that much more important they keep developing talent and hitting on the picks they do have left. We'll let Russ Ball figure this out, but I'll enjoy them while they are here...