BrewerFan

That's the thing we've got going for us... this window, despite what many may argue(not on here) this isn't a 1 year window, this is just the cracks. He missed all year last year, then missed a lot of time this year... and he's STILL young for a catcher. He IS a top propsect, but even with what's two very unproductive years of development, he's still young for a catcher. I don't see a reason to bring him up. If you bring him up next year, you're going to do what? Sit him behind Contreras or lighten the load on Contreras and have him DH more? That pushes Yelly back o the OF. I'm starting the year with Haase. If Quero is that type of dude that ATL has in Baldwin, then you trade Contreras the following year and you move on. And hopefully Dinges becomes a great backup catcher(I think he could be the guy who actually passes Quero up with pop times as low as 1.79 and the bat he's shown, but... probably not realistic).

Chourio may still be the most important player on this team. He and Yelich. He can change the game with a swing of the bat, a bunt base hit, stealing 2nd...most everything but a walk!

Well.... you don't really need to rely on the broadcast guys when they track these things. Velocity when making a throw from the OF and...they're actually pretty even here(actually, I believe Chourio is marginally better). But you're not ever putting a player in RF rather than CF because they have may have a marginally stronger throwing arm, and again, Chourio actually has the marginally stronger arm, though... it's close enough to be irrelevant here. Frelick AND Chourio both have good arms. You'd never say PCA has a great arm and as such, you put the guy with the better arm in RF. You'd lose too much value from the guy playing the MOST important position in the OF...covering the MOST ground.

Well, someone's going to get a stud. That's the type of player I'd move one of those two studs for. I don't think I'd have interest in that particular deal... unless we're going to move Turang to SS(likely a less popular idea today though... I don't think mishandling as soft liner is all that relevant). But it sounds like they're going to really re-build or what?

EXACTLY. Even in hindsight, it's hard for me to really argue Myers is better to have out there to get through that inning just based on their performances this year. I think a better argument would be.... you need to cover 18 innings tomorrow, you've got Misiorowski throwing a game, no DL Hall. Even with Patrick and now likely Yoho(who I don't trust) just leaving Myers in case it went even longer and save Anderson would have been a better argument than "Myers is better." I mean, Anderson had thrown to a sub 3.00 ERA, 9.5 Ks per 9 and... been pretty solid... for what's basically the last guy in the pen. It was not a good day for him. I thought the 4 pitch walk was more of an unintentional-intentional walk, but...I may be wrong. To the last point though, this division could be really tough in the future. The Pirates have a lot of really good pitching. Maybe the best young(24 and under) pitching in the game. Bubba Chandler, Jared Jones, Skenes. This HS kid they just drafted could move quick. The Reds have a young group that could be nasty with Burns, Lowder, Petty. I don't actually know much about the Cards and the Cubs..., I think they'll make another trade for someone. Especially if they pony up for Tucker in the off-season.

Turang's was definitely a sac bunt. He just got it down the line and beat it out. Today, it was just a bad bunt. And I did agree that without the pen, I'd probably not have bunted it there, but I think there's quite a bit that people are...not recalling. Durbin has put down quite a few Bunts, Chourio, Yelich both have done likewise. Vaughn just had a sac bunt with men on 1st and 3rd that was clearly all his decision. I would say the bunt has been about as big and important for the Brewers as just about any team in Baseball. Obviously, the hotter you are and when you're 2nd in OPS over the last 30 days and you just had a road trip in which you're the first team in MLB History to score 80 runs and allow 30 or less(whatever it was) you're probably bunting less... but I feel like I'm watching another team. I'm also not sure why people are so down on Anderson as compared to Myers. He's been just objectively better in everything you need there this year. Much better GB%, much better K rate, tougher on lefties and we're talking about how bad Murph's BP management is. How we shouldn't have traded Cortes and this is all a byproduct of that and forcing Misirowski into a start.... There is definitely some teeth gnashing going on. I agree with @Brian... we're getting a little spoiled.

....sure.

Right. I didn't argue that point. I did argue that their current predicament was the result of trading a guy who'd started two games for us and both were in March/1st week of April. LOL...I forgot what game threads are like... even in a season like THIS.

Ok, so I answered using ONE recent example of a team that's done it all year and; That's your response? Why'd you even ask for ONE example if your response was going to... that? I mean, there are SO many other examples where they've manufactured runs all years and particularly during this stretch, I just gave you one very recent one...

Off the top of my head, the game Turang just bunted for a base hit with a man on 2nd and the Brewers ended up trying it when Cruz threw the ball away trying to turn two.

They didn't start Misiorowski out of necessity, they started him because he barely missed any time. Him struggling, sure, THAT caused a problem. Trading Cortes is... REALLY nit picking and using ONE game to say, "well, would have been great to have a 6 man rotation." They could have a 6 man rotation right now if they wanted one. Cortes wasn't the make or break guy on that.

...not sure what risk you're talking about? Going to 3rd? Because I think he was going to easily beat that, but I don't know what other risk there may have been.

It's not like they're lacking for starting pitching depth. They still have Patrick in AAA who has a better ERA in ~100IP. Then Henderson IL, Myers is being used out of the pen. I don't really think this is the domino effect of the Nestor Cortes trade.

This is more my issue. Not the bunt... you don't have Uribe, Megill, Mears... gotta play for more than one...IMO. But it's REAL hard for me to question Murphy at this point. There's a long list of "I'd have done...and there's a drive to left by Mona-...."

MAYBE losing after 14 straight wins in which they've manufactured numerous runs with the bunt?

He got out of it!

I guess, but Anderson has been pretty good for his role in this pen. Hard to complain too much.

I live about 10 minutes away from my folks in Waukesha County. I called and asked how bad it was. My Dad just said, "it's gonna miss us," and... that didn't really make sense as I'd just driven by their exit and I could barely see, but I thought...'ok, it's raining harder than I've seen in years.' Stopped over the next day, they, luckily, live atop a hill, but they do have a pond in their yard that was just overflowing and just big ruts in their yard where it looked like my Dad partially drove his truck. So I asked him, 'thought you didn't any rain,' and... he just said, 'it was supposed to miss us!' Turns out... he couldn't be bothered to look out the window or...well, hear the pounding rain. The phone told him it'd go south of him or...whatever. He's normally nearly perfect, so I'll be reminding him of this for a while.

We've lapped them. It means when Cubs fans talking about the Brewers being "luck merchants" and trolling the Brewers on Twitter just...quit and say, "we're fighting for the WC now...we're out of the division race." That...is lapped.

I don't think Frelick is, but Turang is Super 2 eligible(or should be). But I could be wrong.

I really checked out last year... I think. I haven't watched any of it closely this year. I've fast forwarded through, rewound to see some REALLY nice plays by Belton and Sorrell...a few nice catches. Simmons made a great play at the goal line. But I'm not watching play in and play out. So I now Belton has a lot of penalties. I'm literally only going back and watching the plays where something looks good. Also, Monk. He was blocking Buckner yesterday and he got into him and drove him back 5 yards. It made me wonder...'why the hell are the Colts playing Buckner' at that point of the game and made me want to double check there wasn't another guy with the same last name, but not the All-Pro(I never did, the guy was clearly 6'8 and DeForrest) and then I'm seeing Q. Nelson and Taylor out there in the 2nd Quarter. And we're playing guys in the 1st half who won't make the team. You can't play this scared. Give the first team offense ONE half to play. A FULL half. Then pick apart their issues... I think we win double digit games but... it's also really hard for me to not assume a double digit loss in Week 1. And the first digit could be a 3. Good to see Lloyd with a nice catch. I saw Musgrave(or Jeff Janis 2.0 as some on the board refer to him😉) and appreciated Kuhn talking about how dangerous we could be IF he and Kraft are on the field together this year. Oh, and I also like that Fitzpatrick at TE. Big guy, good blocker. Reliable receiver. But yeah, I'm getting through these in 15 minutes and only watching a play where something stands out in 2.0 speed.

Yeah, and they will have others like Hardin, Whichrowski who could play a role, the later in particular as a lefty or not. Pratt, Wilken, Adams, several others later in the year potentially. I have a feeling that they're going to work to bring Woody back. He's so important to this team and... it's not the traditional move by any means, but I think you can rely on him to stay healthy. He came through that shoulder injury, I think he'll just get stronger. BUT... I recognize that's a long shot. The only other thing I'd say is...does Contreras get that 12M picked up? That feels like an agreement they made to avoid arby, they decline it and agree to a slightly lower deal around 9M. It's only 150K buyout IIRC. Not make or break, but a little bit helps. I would love to see Turang given an extension. 5 years 60M? He's a hard guy for me to put a number on as he'll likely end up with ~9 WAR the previous 2 years, but a ~675 OPS. I think the power is coming a little more. That may be more of a deal I want to see done than one that will as he's long been a guy I've really liked and reminded me of Trea Turner... again, not that he's Trea Turner, but... I mean, he is starting to hit some bombs, it'd be nice to lock him up and then get some TOs and be forced with AWFUL decision of potentially trading a 5 WAR player so we can bring up a top 10 prospect after we've given him ample time right after bringing up the #1 prospect(Pena, Made in that order...and I don't even know where Pratt and his golden colored glove fits into the equation). I know this is about '26, so...I won't get too far off topic, but '27-'28 don't look too shabby either! We've just got...one guy after another coming. And this should be Jackson Chourio prime years.

He came back out and threw the ball really well after that...I thought. 95-96, hit his spots. I wish we had SOME idea of these injuries. Mis, we knew that was a 'lets just give him more time off,' but Henderson and the elbow and now an Oblique. This time of the year, it could be the end of their seasons(or they could be back in 15 days and just limiting their workload).

The Cubs have the 2nd best record in the NL since the Brewers...historic run their own. Since they bottomed out at 23-26 or whatever it was. That was still true a couple days ago anyway. Since that May when the Brewers were at their lowest. The Cubs have kinda fallen off, but for a while when the Brewers just blew past them, they really weren't to blame for falling apart. They just simply weren't GREAT. I am not a huge Twitter fan, but I am absolutely loving how the Cubs fan went from, "It's a fluke," to, "luck merchants," to, "what is going on!" to "they can't keep getting away with this! This has to be rigged," to "ah, screw it, we're not even playing for the division anymore anyway." I have told there has been rain in Milwaukee. I don't believe that's true. I believe the streets have flooded with the Tears of Cubs fans...and it's a beautiful thing(not the people who have had their basements flood, the...Cubs tears).

I really think this is really revisionist. We used to call it Craigtober. The Brewers on several occasions finished the season VERY strong and played VERY well down the stretch or to get into the playoffs. I also don't really buy the critiques of CC that he was "too tight" or playing not to lose. I think Murphy is keeping it light. I think that's easier to do when things are going well and I REALLY hate even the impression that I'm standing up for CC, but... we did lost any different with CC than we did last year with Murph. Got the lead and then lost late with a great player up. Alonso takes our AS closer deep. Freeman takes Hader deep. Soto gets a hit off Hader, Grisham lets it go under the glove(would have been a tie either way). The last two vs Hader and lefties who REALLY struggled against him. There was the AZ series in which we were absolutely scorching the ball with RISP and just hitting it right at people and they were blooping us to death. The....what other series did we lose? The Dodgers the 2nd time? Just felt like the better team. The first loss vs the Dodgers, they hit Jeffress Splitter when he had a ~1.28 ERA or whatever that year for a big HR late in the game. That was the year there were rumors the Dodgers were cheating along with Boston, the Mets(there were some rumors about the Brewers as well) but the Astros won and were...so brazen about it. Point is, short or one game series, who knows... but I DO know looking at Mears and Uribe at nearly 60 innings already, Anderson should go 2-3 innings today and hopefully Quintana(I think...I haven't even looked) can go 6 and maybe Miller closes it out in a perfect world. In short though, I wouldn't mind watching them... after the Cubs series or today, watching them sit guys and give guys some rest. I'll hate it if it's a 3-2 game and Uribe, Megill, Mears are all down. But... that's my only concern at this point. Especially until I figure out if the Henderson and DL Hall injuries are "innings management," or actual injury concerns.