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I think you should probably assume the Brewers, a well-run team, have some level of confidence in his recovery given what they committed to him. Frankie Monas is a bad comparison as the Brewers didn't give him that contract and they're unlikely to be picking it up. I get what you're saying...they should plan for little from Woodruff and be pleasantly surprised, but they're not the Dodgers. It's not like they can go get a couple of aces and then just hope their injured aces come back at their own pace. Either way, I think the Brewers staff going into '25 and '26 looks pretty damn good. Ashby, Hall, Peralta, Misiorowski-hopefully continues to develop as a starter, Gasser maybe in the back end of '25 and for '26, Rea, Meyers, it's as deep with GOOD arms as we've been in a while. When talking about expectations though, I don't think we should "expect" Rea or Myers to put up a sub 3 ERA. But the staff collectively should be good, if not great. I do expect the BP to be dominant. There's no reason the Brewers shouldn't have just an overpowering pen for the foreseeable future. Even if they trade Devin Williams.
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You never know what you're going to get after a shoulder and it's probably not fair to expect Woody to be ace when he comes back, but Ashby is pitching better than ever and Woodruff will have had more time to recover. So, I think there's a good chance we see Woodruff most of the way back. I would expect he'd be skipped and he'd throw ~150 innings if things go well, but he's a workhorse.
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I don't buy this...just as a rule with athletes of that caliber. You could say the same about Mahomes or...Dak now, Love or really anyone who's gotten paid. It's pretty rare a guy stops caring because they get paid. And Watson had already gotten paid. People forget, he got a massive deal(for the time) from the Texans. I just remember when everything came out and there were a lot of people, respected people in the NFL/College who said if there was ONE person they don't believe did this, it was Watson. And then more came out and more...and it became clear he at BEST did something very inappropriate. He may have lost his confidence or it's hard to lead when people don't respect you. I don't know...that's more likely to me than he got paid and doesn't care. It has happened where people got paid and stopped caring. Albert Haynesworth had the ability to be one of the greatest DTs of all time. Got paid and just fell apart. But I think Watson just lost his swagger, confidence...whatever. All I can say is...I wish it was the Bears that paid him!
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Sure...but he DRILLED 66(maaaybe by 5 yards) and he's been so good overall. I'll still take Tucker, but damn, he's good.
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Is Justin Tucker about to lose his title(or has he) as the best kicker in the NFL?
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I mean...he was a REALLY good QB. I can't believe he got this bad this quickly...but he did. That's alright. The Browns can get out of that in...**checks calendar** 4 years.
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It's between a Grade 1 and a Grade 2 MCL. Timeline grade 1, 1-2 weeks. Grade 2 2-4 weeks Both based on pain tolerance. Week 4 is a month from that game Oct 6th. I'd expect him back for the Rams, Week 4 on the 6th.
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Truly can't comprehend how spending a 1st rd pick on a guy who you WANT to be your future starter is ALSO neglecting your backup QB position in your world, but...yeah, I don't really give a **** anymore. I can't believe you're STILL on about this. AGAIN, what's it matter? The season is over regardless of Love, right? Same crap as the last 14 years? To be clear -Drafting a a guy in the 1st=neglecting your backup QB because you're actually drafting him to be a starter(Even if he will be a backup in both Rodgers/Loves case for the next several years)....yeah, that makes a TON of sense. -No reason to draft a young QB as we did under Wolf OR like the guy you KEEP yammering about in Flynn. A player we DRAFTED and played well as the backup. Sure. That's bad also. Make sure someone else drafts him and then sign him(I'm sure he'd know the system as well in that scenario). The ONLY scenario you have addressed backup QB is if you bring in an old, washed-up, and expensive veteran QB. Got it. Jesus *****...this is exactly what the ignore feature is for.
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You asked; I tried to explain...anyone who knows anything about the Packers knows how they drafted and developed their own backup QBs for years. So that's WHY they would "develop" a QB. And sure, you can say it doesn't "count" when you have a 1st rd pick as your backup all you want, it just doesn't make sense. I don't care if they drafted him to eventually take over. That'd be even MORE telling that they're not just "neglecting" the backup position. Tyson Bagent went 2-2 last year...but you've already determined the Packers can't win and it doesn't really matter anyway as you've given up on the season even BEFORE you knew Love was going to miss time because...after 1 week, the defense wasn't to your liking. So what's the point here? I trust if they think Ryan Tannehill will make them better, they'll bring him in. Otherwise, we'll see what Willis and Clifford can do. I don't know what more you want out of this discussion, but it's all I've got left to give.
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I don't know, because that's what they did when they were their MOST successful, they recouped more draft compensation and they always had good backup QBs ready and available...and that is what Gute said he wanted to "get back to," this past year. Why would you want to draft and develop a young player who can be a good backup when you can go year to year with an older veteran? You're right, that makes more sense. No, you just said when it's early, they're not "drafted" to be backups, they're drafted to be starters, so that doesn't...count I guess. Ok...I don't care. I'm going to wait now and see how the games ACTUALLY play out rather than...declaring the season over. You...can do the opposite.
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Ok...so draft a QB, but not one early, because then you're drafting them to be a "starter," draft one later, and then you won't have neglected the backup position, right? That's the needle we're trying to thread here? I've never heard that it doesn't count when you expect too much out of your backup QBs...but sure. Despite the time Love and Rodgers were...quite literally backups, it doesn't count because we expected them to be more. Got it. Does this even matter? Didn't you declare the season over due to the defense already anyway?
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I agree...particularly with the defense. I get Cooper couldn't play, he was hurt. It's pretty obvious he needs to be the other nickel, but, you need to tackle and get acclimated to tackling. The offense...all the drops/catchable passes that were not converted, I don't know if pre-season helps, but a few series shouldn't hurt. The OL didn't look good, but I do think the Eagles have a great front. Jordan Davis, Jevon Carter(I don't personally think that play was dirty at all...though I was in the minority on Twitter) and Graham are pretty good. We shut down Huff and Sweat. I feel the same about the RBs as I did in the off-season. I'd rather we stuck with Jones and then have Wilson be the #2, but...I'm hoping to be proven wrong there and that we'll be able to run the ball vs most fronts. That Jordan Morgan will take over the job like Jenkins and Tom early in their careers.
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LOL...they weren't drafted to start. Every QB you draft, you're drafting them HOPING they'll become a starter. So that's not at all a false equivalency, using Justin Fields and Russell Wilson, two QBs that fell into the Steelers laps because they didn't have ONE good one is a false equivalency. Matt Flynn was a 7th rd pick, not a 2nd.
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No...it's still early in his 2nd season, but...they don't look better. It kinda feels like this program turned with Mertz. I just thought it'd be for the better and...it has not been. I'm not blaming one kid, but...that's kinda when there was more excitement. They had Taylor, a really good run game, you thought a great QB would elevate them as Wilson nearly did and it's just been really mediocre since then.
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He said we "grossly neglect our Backup QB spot." Our backup QB has Love for years, then Love took over and we drafted a guy in the 5th rd who looked REALLY good in camp as a rookie. We added a QB this past draft, then when they didn't have a good camp, we went out and traded for a guy who'd just been a 3rd rd pick. Why am I even bringing up where Jimmy G was drafted? Gee...could it be to illustrate the balance a team needs with a YOUNG QB(Jimmy G was brought in-in a Love-type situation) and how much draft capital it makes sense to invest with a 25-year-old QB vs a 38-year-old QB? That didn't make sense to you that the draft capital was relevant. "The Packers have never done anything like that." No...they just draft and have 3 straight franchise QBs and THAT provides an impetus for you to be angry... I don't know dude, you've already given up on the season anyway...after ONE loss vs Philly, so...sure, they neglected the backup QB. They made no effort there...
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Right. And if there isn't an AWFUL call on Jaire on 3rd down, the Packers are off the field with...I don't know, 6 minutes left. It was a close game vs one of the most talented teams in the league week 1 in Brazil. I get game threads are negative, but that's usually in the moment. A BIG difference as the season goes on is you'll see Cooper out there more on defense...but we played a team a year removed from the SB with Barkley, Brown, Smith, an elite OL and we lost by a possession. The Love injury hurts, but yeah, I don't get the negativity either.
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No, we don't know #2 is true. Jimmy G was taken in the 2nd rd by the Pats and then traded and Fields/Wilson is clearly an aberration.
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Sure. That is why I didn't compare the IMPACT of losing both, I pointed out that Aaron Jones TWICE last year suffered the same injury at RB, a position where an MCL is much more significant...and he missed 6 weeks. So it's unlikely that the same injury to a QB would "torpedo" our season.
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Yeah...MAYBE...if he has the same injury twice.
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It is kinda crazy how fatalistic we get(and how quickly). We played a REALLY good team on a bad field. Love didn't play well. We had two third-down penalties that stopped us from getting off the field(the Clark one was legit, the Jaire penalty was terrible). Just a whole bunch of slipping and sliding on open passes or Love missing guys. He didn't play great. The guy who did look pretty damn good is Cooper. I'd like to see Cooper playing more in the future in nickel. You line up McDuffie vs Cooper in man and...that's a bad matchup. I can't imagine how miserable these game threads would be if this was a Cubs forum though!
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It is? This is the same injury Aaron Jones...a RB had twice last year. It REALLY shouldn't be enough to "torpedo," this season.
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I don't know about Tannehill. I didn't watch him or...haven't paid attention to how exactly he's fallen off. Matt Ryan would make sense to me if he wanted to come back and play a little. He's played in the scheme, MLF has been his QB coach...he retired, but guys come back all the time. I suspect this will be a 2-3 week thing, maybe he misses 2 games and is just limited, but it's just guessing until we hear more.
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Ok...so a better source, MCL...as most expected.
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Yeah...it's been so hard being a Packers fan. They just can't get anything right...🙄
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I don't know how accurate this is...could just be guessing(as it's most people's guess). What type of sprain is going to be what matters. A sprain is just a type of tear, just matters of degrees...I believe(that's what I've always been told).
