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Yeah, I think you can chalk that up to Gutekunst more than anyone. McKinney is 24 and he was elite last year...and now he's playing out of his mind. Bullard looks great(really similar to McKinney in play style)...but I don't see how he could screw up that front. And again, people say it takes a year to go from one scheme to another...and I buy that going from 4-3 to 3-4 but not the other way around. The areas you're more susceptible are on plays this past week when Kenny Clark was hit with that wham block and they ran a trap right behind him, but at least you're getting up the field. Maybe a Hassan Reddick trade would be worth it? There was a play this past week, LVN beat the LT off the snap, got his hands on him and beat him to the edge and Stafford just stepped up. Ideally, you have a DT coming there, but also, it's nice if you have a guy who can bend and get a piece of that QB. We don't really have that. You don't HAVE to have it. Nick Bosa isn't exactly Von Miller coming off the edge, either...but he's got such a refined repertoire, it doesn't matter and Gary was playing in a very similar manner. Enough speed to get the edge due to the power and hands and the threat to the inside. One of the only possible conclusions I can come to is that with so much man coverage, there are so many routes open under the middle in front of the Backers, the ball is coming out quickly? Maybe with Jaire, Stokes, Valentine playing, Bullard in the slot, Quay and Cooper as the nickel backers, you give the DL time to get home? I don't actually buy that, I just can't figure out how the DL got so bad so quickly...
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They do...and it's a ton of money. I believe when they were up for renewal it was 3B a year...I don't know that for certain, but it WAS 2B a year they were generating...so quick math, ~60M a team. 93M if it's at 3B. That's why the Green Bay Packers with 100K people can afford to sign the "Juan Soto" type Free Agents if they're willing to come here. I'd think the Brewers would do better, even if the Dodgers, Mets, Yanks, all those teams aren't involved, the top 12 markets, but if MLB got control of the rest of the teams and divided it up as they SEEM to be inclined to do, how do the Brewers not generate more money? MLB would be SOOO much better if they just split TV revenue. It wouldn't be equal, the Dodgers, Yanks, they'll always generate more money just as the Cowboys and Giants will in the NFL, but if the Brewers could run out a 180M payroll? That'd be cool. Also, one player wouldn't get a contract that is equal to SIX YEARS of the Brewers payrolls(even if he was arguably worth it).
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I don't think so. There's no bonuses due for him in season or anything else. I'm sure he's unhappy not playing and he wants to get traded and the Jets want to get it done, but the Raiders want a 2nd+ for him. I'm skeptical the Jets do that. He's a rental and he'll be 32.
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I wish they could have done this in the off-season! Easiest decision of all-time, Robert Saleh, DC. Make him the highest paid, he coaches here for a year or two, gets another gig and you get 2 3rds for privilege. I don't know what Rodgers issue with Saleh is, but...this is the Jets being the Jets. Yup. He didn't like the leadership(basically) of Dolan and Woody Johnson. And what has happened since then? Rex Ryan came in with an elite defense, a bunch of 1st rd picks on the OL and Mark Sanchez got them to a couple AFCCGs and that's pretty much it. I like Hafley...I think. I can't imagine it's his fault that this front isn't getting pressure, but what a ballsy and wildly unrealistic move would it be to replace Hafley with Saleh? He'll get another HC'ing job or he'll go back to SF though. I'd love to see him as a...special assistant or something.
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They rebuilt that line and they did pretty damn good job. I know Fashanu had a bad game, but that's the right side, that's on Rodgers to set up the protection. It's his offense. He's basically running the Jets at this point. I'm not saying PFF Grades are perfect, by ANY means, but the most reliable they are, is the pass pro. They grade out pretty good until you get to RT and that's Morgan Mosses(basically Billy Turner) and last week their top 10 pick, Fashanu played and was bad). So you use a TE to chip or a RB, or you get the ball out quickly and let the WRs run after the catch. Rodgers just doesn't seem like he's processing as fast to me or getting rid of the ball as quickly and like he's getting real frustrated. That offense SHOULD be talented enough to win. Rodgers has done much more in the past with much less. I agree, he's still top 15, but I think it's likely it's going to take him a while to get acclimated to all the players around him. WE all know how...stubborn he can be. I guess the people who don't think he's top 15, are you taking Aaron Rodgers or Sam Darnold right NOW. Or is this more of a power-ranking type thing.
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The is literally the ONLY hole on the team. Even if they trade Williams(and I'm not suggesting they trade him as a result of this blown save, rather due to the value he'll carry as a dominant sub 2.00 career ERA pitcher). So....I don't think Black is an everyday 3B. I think maybe he's an everyday 2B if...you absolutely have to play him at one of the two, but most likely it's a Bauer-type role. Also, as far as I've heard, the TV contract isn't going to hurt the Brewers. If ANYTHING, it should help the Brewers. This paltry TV money they get now would go up if MLB took it over(is my understanding anyway).
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Well...Snell won't be on the market, but if the Brewers are going to spend money, I wouldn't spend it on any of those guys. We find pitchers, we work with them, and we have a great staff year after year. Hell, if we're going to jump into the FA pool, just dive right into the deep end and give Soto 12/500M? Get a HOF talent in the prime, one of the top 3-4 hitters in the game, and the ideal hitter to hit between Yelich and Chourio! I'm being as serious as I can be. Bregman is going to cost you probably what Matt Chapman cost plus a couple of years and a couple million per year since he's been better, been a winner, he's younger. So 8/200. You'll probably get lucky to get 6 WAR out of the last 4 years of that deal and you're just as likely to DFA him and eat 80M to plug in Pratt, Wilken, Made, whoever. I'd rather get stupid and just sacrifice the 2040s. Soto 12-500, 100M deferred, 10M from 2040-2050, give him an option 6 years in and 280 in. Get the modern-day Barry Bonds in the lineup with Chourio and you know he'll be in his prime or damn near it for that whole deal! I have absolutely zero hope that'll happen, but if we're GOING to spend stupid money(and Bregman is stupid money for our market) lets spend it in a way that we're not just giving a check to a player who's not going to be productive for half of it? 1-Yelich(DH) 2- Chourio(RF) 3- Soto(LF) 4- Contreras(C) 5- Mitchell(CF) 6-Frelick(3B) 7- Hoskins(1B), 8- Turang(SS/2B), 9- Ortiz(SS/2B) Black, Bauers, Perkins, Collins, Haase Rotation Woodruff, Meyers, Civale, Ashby, Hall, Peralta BP-Megill, Uribe, Mears, Hudson, Koenig, Yoho That's without Misi, Henderson, any wild jumps like Boeve, Wilken and his 17AA HRs despite a pitch to the fact, Pratt, one of the 7 or 8 pitchers who will invariably come up, pitch great and add a couple MPH and refine their change, Payamps, Peguero(who could both be in there), Quero. There ya go. And how much is that team? 150? No Williams, Milner, Montas, LOL...I'm not mocking Bergman, I'm really not. He DOES fit perfectly and I'm not worried about his walk rate, his exit velo has been great(or at least really good). But that fit is for a year, maybe two. And since we're going big, lets go Reggie White 1992 Packers big! Now....we just need Jimmy and Dee to decide they want to be in the Baseball game, throw in 500M and dedicate themselves to building a winner in Milwaukee without blowing up the future like the Bucks have! Or just keep plugging along in Brewers fashion, develop Made into a young Arod, Pratt into a young Gunnar, Quero into Yaddy(who hits more early on), Mis into deGrom(but we keep him healthy). Seriously, we sign someone like Polanco, the fanbase moans, he comes in, puts up a 760 OPS at 3B, plays poor defense...or you get a guy like Iglesias, he'll probably hit .280/.330/.340, play outstanding defense, but you can make a move at the deadline. All in, shy of someone with billions like the Haslem's joining the best case is probably a Moncada or Black+Payamps for Suarez OR...a bit of an unlikely idea, if a team outside of LAD signs Willy, take their leftovers. If Philly for example wants to move Trea back to 2B, Devin Williams+ for Alec Bohm(they need relievers and a CF, so maybe Black here also, or Payamps or Peguero). Bryson Stott would be a good option as well, though for much less. Brandon Lowe. Hell, Maybe you take Trevor Story+60M in a salary dump and hope he's recovered. He's still a guy worth having for 5-6M a year. You give up again, a reliever or two. If it's the other favorites, maybe we can pull off a bigger trade with the Red Sox. Williams+ The signing works perfectly on MLB24, but...it just doesn't fit with the Brewers. We need a 2-3 year bridge(if that). And you'd be getting that but paying for ~8 years. But, it's fun to think of the lineup with him.
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1 game, 3 games, 5 or 7, each team we've lost to has won a the NLCS. It's just getting hot at the right time... And that guy that hit 3 HRs, 2 in one game, the other guy who was 5 of his first 8 while playing elite defense, guys like that make me think they handle the pressure and they'll find a way.
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That and the highest paid player on the team has been dealing with chronic back injuries for a decade now and said his back felt better a week after surgery than it had since his mid 20s. For a guy on pace to have a 25/50 type season with a 900+ OPS...that's a helluva addition. Mitchell, a player I admittedly have reservations about, but he's posted an 800 OPS now over 116 career games. Frelick, Turang, Ortiz, Black, Quero, also young guys who could(should) be better or help out next year. If there was a year to push that payroll a bit...to add another 10-14M and maybe touch 145, it'd be next year. I just don't buy the "there's no schedule," stuff. There clearly is and it coincides with Chourio emerging, Quero, Misiorowski and then that aforementioned group all with a little time under their belts, PLUS....this bullpen should be just overwhelming. I hate the way the season ended and it feels...inevitable, but it's not. Chourio was a 14-year-old kid when were were playing the Dodgers to go to the WS. He could care less about the series since then. Give me ONE more .800 OPS 3B/2B or hell, at least just a competent bat and I think we'll have enough. We'll have those 1-5 hitters, fill in around them and then have a LOT of power arms to throw at teams. And then beyond that, we're probably a year away from the next wave of prospects hitting Milwaukee, sometime in '26 for guys like Wilken, Pratt and who the hell knows, Made could force himself in that group or Adams, whoever. It's just coming in waves now. I 100% understand how you can be pissed off the way the season has ended. I don't know how you can call it an organizational failure when guys like Devin Williams or Josh Hader are the ones getting hit or Corbin Burnes getting beat up an dof couse, every year there's an injury. And then there's the fluke luck. Hader has blown at least 2 games, Williams 2. You were literally one pitch away from wining any of 3 games vs the Braves, the D-Backs we had what seemed like 7 or 8 pitches hit over 100MPH that didn't get out of the IF while they nickel and dimed us to death. They're not excuses, like I said, I get it. But it this era of Brewers baseball isn't "good enough" for you...consistently being there year in and year out while you're actively IMPROVING the outlook of this team moving forward, then how many teams would you be happy rooting for? The Dodgers? Sure, if we were the LAD, we could add Burnes, Soto and Bregman, while bringing back Adames. Hell, we'd still have room to spare. 50M+30M+25+25, we could go into next year under the luxury. But that's not how MLB works, so perhaps we should enjoy the wave of young talent we have and hope we keep stacking 90-96 win teams, those bloopers will go in our direction. That line drive DP with 2 on vs the Braves in the 9th will find a hold and we'll have a shot at taking the lead. We get 6 months of good baseball consistently I won't let a pitch in 5-6 games change that. We've got a better team coming back. I'll watch the Brewers pretty much every night next year and hope our young studs can write a new ending. That simple. Loved this season and this team and Ill enjoy next years as well. Hopefully more!
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Game 5: Packers @ Rams - Sunday, Oct 6th at 3:25PM
BrewerFan replied to CheezWizHed's topic in Other Sports
I was a little surprised when I looked at the stats...but then I looked at Gary and they said he had a 25% pass rush win rate vs the Rams, so....I don't know. We're certainly not dominating the LOS on either side of the ball and we were last year. On the Love pick 6, they brought a guy off the edge and we just didn't pick them up well. That's tough play for Love. He got hit and he's just trying to fling it out of bounds, but they ended up bringing 5. We kept Jacobs in(he did get a good chip). So I see your point. These "grades" aren't the end all. They're one piece, but I think the OL has to be better. Defensively, If Dexter Lawrence actually was on the block...I think I'd give up two picks for him though. The Rams slid their protection toward Gary never every play...meaning they're just not scared of anyone else. Lawrence is playing damn near a prime Aaron Donald level(which is why he won't be traded most likely)...but a player like that really changes your entire team. But damn, this should be a top 5 defense. We get the safeties and the DL falls apart. And I've seen the "it takes time to go from one scheme to another," and I do not buy that. If we were going from a 4-3 to a 3-4, maybe. But we're not. This should be a relatively easy transition. Last year we were 2-5 after the Vikings dog walked us, so...it's early....but ugly. -
Game 5: Packers @ Rams - Sunday, Oct 6th at 3:25PM
BrewerFan replied to CheezWizHed's topic in Other Sports
That's funny, I was just thinking the OL has been pretty impressive...albeit not vs the best fronts in the game, but they've all been good in pass protection except for Myers. Walker had a lot of penalties early on, but he's been better. Rhyan has been good in pass-blocking. I guess we'll find out more about the OL as the year goes on, but they've held up pretty well. Detroit, SF, they'll be better indicators. I also wish we had a FB or another H-Back. I get a little worried Kraft can't take this level of punishment and he's become too important. I still believe in Musgrave, but they're very different types of players. -
Game 5: Packers @ Rams - Sunday, Oct 6th at 3:25PM
BrewerFan replied to CheezWizHed's topic in Other Sports
I don't think the change should have necessitated anything. He was ~15 pounds bigger than Bosa as a 3-4 edge. If he's gained weight...and it's hard for me to tell if he has or not, then it is on him. The problem is, we've got a lot of talented pass rushers and not one of those players who played vs the Rams has improved. In fact, they're all CLEARLY worse. Maybe someone else can tell me what type of One-Gape 4-3 Defense where you're playing man on the backend...are you not trying to get your DL up-field and just let them come after the QB. Our secondary has played well, even excluding McKinney. People are upset with Nixon and he's never been my favorite, but if you line him up in the slot vs a guy like Atwell, then give Stafford 3 seconds...he's gonna give up yards. If you put him outside vs Jefferson and it takes a perfect pass to beat him, he' done his job. You don't expect him to lock a guy up like Jaire or even Stokes. Through 5 games I feel alright about this team. Not great. They're a solid team. If the DL doesn't start playing like you expect them to, I don't see this team being able to win in the post-season. -
Game 5: Packers @ Rams - Sunday, Oct 6th at 3:25PM
BrewerFan replied to CheezWizHed's topic in Other Sports
You pretty much nailed everything else, but the intermediate game is...Wicks dropping balls, Doubs throwing a fit(that's where he's used) and...Musgraves. Wicks I believe will figure it out. Doubs...I really hope does. Melton -I hope the big catches/games last year weren't the best we see from him as he looked really good. Musgrave -I don't need him to improve like Kraft has, but he was a BIG part of the offense last year and he's so long and athletic and...not getting the ball. That group needs to step up. I'm happy the ball to Reed was a catch, but that was 1st down, right? That's a bad decision. The pick 6 I'm actually fine with. He's out of the pocket(but in the EZ) and he's trying to just throw it away, he gets hit... as Forrest says, 'it happens.' improve. Also...Christian Watson is a HUGE piece of this offense. I don't care if he has 2 catches for 60 yards, he opens that defense up. I'm not entirely sure why given how little he's proven, but watching how many guys are zeroing in on Watson when he's in vs the defense when he's out, it's a big difference. I also think I'd give up 2 1sts and a kidney after watching Dexter Lawrence AGAIN just dominate and win that game for the Giants. -
Game 5: Packers @ Rams - Sunday, Oct 6th at 3:25PM
BrewerFan replied to CheezWizHed's topic in Other Sports
This team playing at THIS level is not a competitor. Even walking up and putting 6 on the LOS isn't doing much for Clark or Gary. Wyatt was the only consistent threat. He'll be back. It's 5 games now. They're good players so I feel like they'll figure it out, but...they've been just bad. And then you're playing man on the backend and you don't have Jaire, Nixon is in Man coverage, sometimes against player like Justin Jefferson...gotta have Jaire OR Gary, Clark, LVN and something out of Enagbare/Preston. I don't think you can rely on McKinney getting picks. You can apply the same thing to the WRing core. Doubs was pouting, Watson is injured(this time it's a fluke). Wicks has been bad. Melton non-existent. Kraft and Reed have been great, but Musgraves is also not showing up. Maybe it's Love who just hasn't been real sharpe...I don't know, but not a great start to the year. The 3-4 was better than this and there's no world you should get more pass rush from your DL in a 3-4 vs a 4-3 unless you're playing conservative vs a Lamar or Richardson, Hurts(Which we did for two weeks). I'm also hoping we hear that Gary has been hurt. Clark... he always plays well in December, I feel find there, but I don't want to rely on a LB/Slot blitzing to create pressure. -
He was a no-show to practice and he said nothing. He gets no benefit of the doubt and I actually don't think Kurt has connections inside the locker room. I trust the people who do this for a living at this point. Kurt was a player, so it's not an insult, but he's constantly defending players vs the franchise when when they're wrong. You no show for your job in the NFL....that's a big deal. Glad it wasn't a family emergency(though, they almost always have an agent communicate that and then they excuse the absence). I think Watson is going to be missed a lot. Just watch the plays the ball doesn't go to him and he's constantly got two men on him(which is a problem as despite that and him being healthy the first 3+ games, we haven't gotten the passing game going). But Doubs is more than a #4. A #3 is a very valuable pick, so I don't think the Chiefs do that either, but I think that Doubs is a very talented player. I think he's got some Greg Jennings to his game, he's smart, he finds the open spot. I get the Lazard comp, but as a WR, route runner, pass catcher, he's better. Lazard was a goon who could play almost a hybrid TE/WR role. I think both of these are losses, but Doubs was preventable. Though, somehow Watson isn't ruled out for tomorrow's game yet(while Wyatt is). Obviously, he won't play, but interesting that he's merely doubtful.
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I don't know...he seems like Carlson. He's better relative to the league the further away he is! It's not like Narveson has missed the 55 yard kicks. I'm convincing myself that Carlson was a product of his own lack of confidence, BUT then equally the bad snaps and holds(he missed plenty on his own to be clear, but some of the big ones were the later).
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Game 5: Packers @ Rams - Sunday, Oct 6th at 3:25PM
BrewerFan replied to CheezWizHed's topic in Other Sports
You give the kid a chance to turn it around, but if there's anything else, you're getting rid of him. A 4th to...the Ravens or the Browns, whoever. Jaire made a stupid move last year and while I don't think it was a huge deal in terms of him acting out, he got the message and recommitted to this young team. Doubs, when he's getting the ball throwing a fit? Nah, he's a nice WR, but not that nice. Watch Bo Melton with a couple of big catches. I expect Wicks to lead the way and then I'd LOVE to see a return to Musgrave down the seam, Kraft running those option routes and then blowing people up. Obviously it'd be great to see the running game going, but I think it's important to get Love in a flow this game. I'd pick the Packers for my team in this survivor pool I'm in, but we do not do well traveling to the West Coast. Hell, it's why I'm thinking about taking the Jags over the Colts. The Colts have lost like 9 straight in Jax...if not more. -
It's end of season prospect voting time!
BrewerFan replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Brewers Minor League Talk
I've tried to do this 3 or 4 times, but this site keeps locking up on me. Anyone else have this problem? It's only for Brewers fan or maybe an online shopping thing from time to time... Just curious. -
Mets (Quintana) vs Brewers (Myers): 10/3/24, 6:08pm
BrewerFan replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
He gave up 3 ERs this year. 2 ERs came on one of the 3 times he pitched in Back to Backs, that was on August 15th vs the Cards. Is the inference you should have taken that into account before throwing him out there last night? That's a helluva reach if so. That's one outing that went into extras vs the Cards early back from coming off the DL. -
They don't have to be. EBJ has been a bust thus far, but he's still young and versatile, also has exceptionally quick hands, looks good in the field. Seems lost at the plate, but maybe a healthy year he could rebuild his prospect value. Jadher Areinamo at 20 is coming off a .301.349.442 .791 line at age 20 in HiA. They don't have to be our SS of the future...they can provide value in a number of ways. Areinamo could...be a big piece in a trade, he could be a utility player. You really don't have too many Catchers, SS's or Pitchers. Or really any position, but those three in particular.
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Ok...so Williams might negate Moncada's contract. Goldschmidt...what do you expect he'll get? I don't think it's all that likely with Hoskins coming back(and the gap between the two offensively...pretty small this year)...but if you could get him to come to Milwaukee and get him to do so for 10-12M, maybe 14-16 with the Mutual Options that won't be picked up...but I'm a bit skeptical they're going to make two medium-sized signings. I'm not sure they'll make two signings like that, but I'd be thrilled with one.
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Yeah...no, I said I wouldn't COUNT on the guys in AA. That's what I said about the AA group...but I'm not sure Martinez is closer than Boeve. .306/.374/.447 in his first year in the system. First full year. Certainly, players who've done less have come up from AA to make an impact that next season. I hope Martinez can make it also. He's an exciting player, but...he seems to be very streaky. And then Wilken. Again, I said I wouldn't count on any of these guys, but he got hit in the face and still at least held his own. Start him in AA next year and maybe he can contribute at some point. Once you're in AA, you're within striking distance(save for maybe Pratt as he was just moved up for a game EOY). There just aren't a lot of options to fill in. AS for Turang, I don't really ascribe to the belief that changing positions impacts your offense. Turang's a SS his whole life. Whoever they decide to move, I'm fine with...but again, just seems like 2B is MORE likely to be where you find the best available player. I actually think Collins, Dunn, Monastario...those are the types who could be starting on opening day.
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Yeah...that's a HUGE factor. You'd think these guys would understand that. I'm sure a lot of players want more balls. Reed has earned them. Wicks was the guy I thought would break out(I still think he can) but then it's still Watson(the first few weeks) who really does change the offense just by being out there. but then Melton, Doubs, Kraft and Musgrave, all of them have and can play significant roles. So you're 4 games into the year, 2 games with a very specific, dedicated game plan around Willis so now exactly just airing it out, and Jesus, give Love a LITTLE time. He's gotten the ball to Doubs, but everyone's right. He hasn't done nearly enough to be acting like this. I THINK he could be a 1000-1200 yard 8-12 TD guy on a different team where he's higher in the pecking order, but he's not proven he can be yet. This is not the type of crap we need on this team. We need Love and the offense to get into a groove and then maybe our edge rushers to...rush the edge. Not big egos. I'd be thinking about shipping him out... You can't just skip practice in the NFL. I get it, he's eligible for an extension after this year, but... you can guarantee you're not going to be paid if you just no-show to practice.
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3B then. Ortiz to SS, Turang to SS, it's not a big difference IMO. I wouldn't really count on any of them too much for next year. The guy the Mets rolled out at 2B. If his inflated BA this year doesn't raise his price too much, he's an option. Otherwise, Suarez is ideal. I have very little confidence in Ernesto, though he's a fun guy to watch.
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Mets (Quintana) vs Brewers (Myers): 10/3/24, 6:08pm
BrewerFan replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
This was what I was coming here to post. It seems unlikely, but...who knows. I do believe Devin Williams has tremendous value in a trade. I also believe that a pitcher who relies on hitters chasing as much as Williams...is more likely to get hit in bigger spots. When hitters are really zeroed in...like the playoffs. Trade Williams, he's going to be a FA and you're not going to offer him ~20M on a QO anyway as you won't want him to take it. So either to start the year or at the deadline(which might be worse because now you're back in Hader territory). But we've assembled a staff that should be able to overcome his loss in the regular season(and I actually think be better) and he's been shite in the post-season anyway.

