AdvantageSchneider

Can anyone explain what TLR is doing? They should be in rebuild mode. Are they hoping he becomes a stud so they can trade him? They lost 98 games this year. They didn't have Goldschmidt for most of the season, but that roster top to bottom is one of the ugliest in MLB. Doesn't make sense to spend big money on a FA.

I saw some commentators question the decision to play Ishikawa in LF. No doubt about that. But on the other hand, LF is the easiest OF position to play by far. CF is the hardest. Kotsay did play CF in his career, but he hadn't been a regular at that spot in a long time. He was an emergency CF. A guy who could play it if there was an injury, but who would be exposed if played there regularly. And he was exposed in the playoff game. Bochy got lucky no doubt the same thing didn't happen to Ishikawa.

Which he waived. The cards paid very little to get him. At the time the Brewers in first place. I can't imagine Furcal would have said no to the Brewers and yes to the cards.

Yeah, they aren't great other than all the World Series titles. I wish the Brewers could suck as much as the Giants do. Of course they are a dynasty, just like the Spurs are.

I think you are really stretching things there. You don't think perhaps that one extra player in 2011 would have put us over the top? We were awfully close as it was and if we had an extra bullpen arm or an OF other than Kotsay it could have made the difference? I would like to think if DM was dealing with the Giants payroll he would have found a way to improve that team in a couple areas. Granted extra money in the budget doesn't mean you always make wise decisions but at least you have some more flexibility and you can take more chances. That year didn't the Cards pick up Furcal who was great for them down the stretch and we didn't try and pick him on waivers b/c of money? Instead we were stuck with Yuni B. That alone might have keep the cards out of the WS and gotten us into it.

And what kind of seat are you going to get? What would game 7 scalpers prices be? Buy $1 Uke seats and save your money for the scalpers if there is ever another really tough ticket to get.

KC won the trade. Yost is a great manager. The Brewers should follow the KC model and stink for 28 years and then they will no doubt make the WS in the 29th year.

Yes, this is abundantly clear. Sorry, I'll stop posting and let the rest of you go back to being scared to step outside without a police escort.

So...If someone get's beat up in an airport parking lot or if someone sets off a bomb in an airport parking lot, then they should just do away with all the security that they currently have before you board a plane? Someone already did do mass shooting in a TSA line. If those continue to occur, they will probably have to change their procedures. They wouldn't get rid of security, they would probably have more bomb sniffing dogs and more armed security guards at the choke points. Is that what you would like at Miller Park? So you rather be reactive than proactive? Scenario.... MLB decides not to install metal detectors. Someone brings a gun in and starts shooting up their section in the middle of the game and then everyone is confounded that MLB did not have the proper security in place. Of course it's a C.Y.A. thing and I have no problem with that. All security measures are basically C.Y.A. things. No one is going to be confounded that that happened becuae it would be an isolated incident, just like movies theaters didn't install metal detectors after that nutjob shot up the movie theater in Aurora. Again, I'll take my chances at a MLB not getting shot. They are armed police officers there. There are generally not armed police officers at a movie theater, and there aren't any metal detectors at movie theaters either. Do you not go to the movies because you are scared of the lack of security there? It's not like before the security measures there were no lines. Like I said, when I went to the Saturday game towards the end of the season when they had detectors I think we may have stood in line an extra 2 or 3 minutes. For some people it took a lot longer because, for whatever reason, they decided to get in the longest line and stay there (even when there were several shorter lines that were moving quicker). One of my biggest complaints is how long it takes to get into Miller Park. So I'm not happy they are taking additional steps to make that problem worse.

It's all about tradeoffs I guess. Why inconvience everyone to partially alleviate a mostly non-existent threat? Does anyone here not feel safe going to Miller Park? Do they suddenly feel safer with the metal detectors there? I just don't see how anyone can justifiy that. If someone feels they need a metal dector at Miller Park, then I would think they would not feel safe going to any of the malls or the movie theaters that don't have metal detectors. Either you need metal detectors everywhere or you don't need them just at Miller park. So are you saying that they should wait until some tragic event happens in a stadium before they take extra security measures? One day there is a shooting inside a stadium and then everyone starts asking,"Why didn't they have metal detectors?" Wouldn't you rather they be proactive than reactive? The detectors are really not causing any significant delays or inconveniences. Yes, I am saying exactly that, because there have been guns around for a long long time, and I don't ever remember there being a shooting at a MLB game.

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/mlb/story/_/id/11650423/man-severely-beaten-angel-stadium-parking-lot Thank god he wasn't shot or stabbed in the stadium.

Coaches and managers have to know when they are hired they are going to be fired 3 or 4 years later unless they make the playoffs every year. That's just the way it goes. The operative phrase being 3 or 4 years. If they fire a coach whoever they hire will know going in that the Brewer will need to make the playoffs for the coaching staff to keep their jobs. That doesn't sound like a ideal scenario for a good candidate. A good candidate is going to want 3-4 years to prove their worth. A desperate candidate just wants a big league job, even if it is only for 1 year.

But who wants to go work for a HC that is clearly in a make the playoffs or get fired state? You aren't going to get a strong staff. You either bring them all back or can them all. Maybe you can get away with just one sacraficial lamb, the hitting coach, or perhaps some other coach if you have a stong internal candidate.

I don't know how they can keep him. They can't give him an extension. He'll be going into the last year of his contract, and everyone in the clubhouse will know he's toast is they don't make the playoffs. It would be pretty tough for him to command the team when every player would pretty much have more job security than RR would have. I wonder if they are waiting to see how some thing shake out like Ramirez before they decide on the direction to go.

Career Brewers WAR per baseball reference Gantner 22.3 Weeks 12.3 Per Fan Graphs Gantner 19.5 Weeks 18.2

This is exactly how we have operated the last few years. We put together a .500 team and hope we avoid injuries and bad seasons, a player or two breakout, etc. It's a bad approach since luck tends balance out over 162 games. That's the sad thing, the breaks didn't even out this year. We got almost every break this year(scoring 3 runs on wild pitches, 2 runs on a strikeout, etc) and we still didn't make the playoffs. If you aren't going to do it this year, it's never going to happen.

I think I went through the 5 stages of grief on this thread. 1) Denial - They aren't going to fire RR(B/C they were going to pull it together and make the playoffs. 2) Anger - Those jerks aren't going to make the playoffs they better fire RR. 3) Bargaining - If they don't fire RR I'm not going to renew my season tickets next year. 4) Depression - We're the flipping cubs 90 miles north 2) Anger again - We're not going to make they playoffs and they aren't going to fire anyone(or at least anyone important. Does anyone think the season would have turned out any different had they not had a hitting coach at all, or even a different one?) 5) Acceptance, yeah we stink, it doesn't matter what we do, we're going to stink again next year too.

https://sports.vice.com/article/mlbs-metal-detector-policy-is-what-terrorists-winning-looks-like "Enders(edit: the Alabama Economist) says that the main effect of tighter security at stadium entrances will likely be to drive any hypothetical attackers—and let's remember that no actual terrorists have actually attacked sports venues in America outside of that time Bruce Dern tried it—to set off bombs outside stadiums instead, which would not be a happy outcome: "You're trying to get in the door, there's 20,000 people standing around outside. I could do a lot of damage there, just as easily as I could if I brought the thing inside. Maybe even more. Harvard security expert Bruce Schneier agrees, calling the new MLB directive "security theater"—probably unsurprisingly, since he's the one who first coined that term for measures that look good but do nothing to actually make people safer. ,,,"This is very much a C.Y.A. type of thing," he says. "'If something happens, we're going to be blamed.'" But what does a guy from Harvard know.

Yeah aggression! That is about as fitting an ending to the season as there could be. SOB. Same old brewers.

It's all about tradeoffs I guess. Why inconvience everyone to partially alleviate a mostly non-existent threat? Does anyone here not feel safe going to Miller Park? Do they suddenly feel safer with the metal detectors there? I just don't see how anyone can justifiy that. If someone feels they need a metal dector at Miller Park, then I would think they would not feel safe going to any of the malls or the movie theaters that don't have metal detectors. Either you need metal detectors everywhere or you don't need them just at Miller park.

Yeah, I saw that glad you posted it. Here's the money quote "Still, it appears Roenicke is held in high regard by his bosses, one of whom pointed out that they still rank sixth overall in the NL (which is better than most, and also better than the prognosticators guessed; that includes here, as I had them fourth in the Central)" HORAY for 6th place. Can't wait for them to raise that banner at MP.

What do metal detectors prevent? Someone getting shot or stabbed in the stadium right? Is there there more or less risk of being shot or stabbed in the stadium then there is in the parking lot? Brian Stow was beaten in the Dodgers parking lot. But we don't require searches to get into the parking lot. There is a heck of a lot more security inside the stadium then there is in the parking lots. Anyone with any reason would clearly beef up security in the parking lots before adding metal dectors to the stadium, if the concern was really about fan safety.

[No, I'm sure this is crony capitalism at it's finest. I'd bet anything those are new metal dectors paid for by a government grant. There are certain phrases that it seems people are using more and more now, regardless of context. "Crony capitalism." I'm not even sure how this would work in this case. Can there EVER be anything that's not political? Is it just possible because of threats to players MLB finally decided, "Hey, maybe we should do this so we don't look back and say...why didn't we do this," without there being some political agenda at work? Do you really think MLB is in bed with Big-Metal Detector-Business? What's the quid pro quo? Some people are genetically predisposed to have a conservative mind set. Not politically per say, but just those who are very upset over any and every level of change. I don't think it's MLB, it the Homeland Security. Again, if I wanted to get a MLB player, why would I do it at the stadium? I'd just wait in the lobby of their hotel. They aren't hard to find outside the stadium. I don't have a problem with change. I have a problem with mindless changes than inconvience me without any real benefit to myself or anyone else.

No, I'm sure this is crony capitalism at it's finest. I'd bet anything those are new metal dectors paid for by a government grant.

Went to the game tonight. Here's the funny thing, I think the metal detectors actually make Miller Park less secure. Before the metal detectors the ushers would do a pretty good check of every bag that entered the stadium. With the new security process I did not see them look in my bag, or my wife's purse at all. If I was looking to cause trouble I'd put whatever I was looking to sneak in at the bottom of a bag. Tonight it would have gotten through without a problem. It certainly appears that those metal detectors aren't the finely tuned. I went through with my glasses with metal frames, a ring and a belt and not a peep. I always have to take off my glasses when I go through the airport security. So in conclusion, this is all a big joke. So sad. Between this and the Brewers collapse I'm seriously considering not renewing season tickets for next year.