one other thing, did I hear it right in RR's press conference he said, "I don't think it should be the goal of a team in spring training to reach the world series". WOW. I mean, yeah I guess if you are Pittsburg or KC or Baltimore obviously that shouldn't be your goal, b/c that's not realistic, and I'm not going to say WS or bust, this season sucked, but can't you say, we had a successful season but we fell short of our goal to make the WS? Is that not the proper way to answer that question?