No offense JohnBriggs, but I don't think I'm making a classic mistake. I'll give you Vaughn, but the others you mentioned were never really expected to be anything special in the majors and ended up having some good years scattered between some not so good years. Not that where you are drafted means everything, but lets look at some of that Brewer lineup that you mentioned. Jaha - 14th round draft pick Mieske - 20th Hamilton - 11th Cirillo - 11th (had a solid career) Seitzer - 11th (also had a solid career, but was past his prime when he joined the Brewers and never had more than 490 ABs in a season with the team) The current Brewer team is stocked with young, high draft pick players who are coming into their prime years Fielder - 1st round Weeks - 1st round Hall - 6th round Hardy - 2nd round Braun - 1st round Even Kendall, though past his prime was a 1st round pick Gallardo - 2nd round Bush - 2nd round Looper and Suppan, while not "young" any more and maybe not living up to original expectations, are 1st and 2nd round draft picks respectively One of the points of my original post was that there use to be so much uncertainty going into spring training. Who's the SS? Who's in LF? What is the rotation other than maybe the first 2 or 3 starters? We pretty much know the opening day starting 8 position players for 2009 and the 5 guys in the starting rotation. There may be some competition for bench players and bullpen staff. There is stability on a young, exciting, home grown team. This is much, much different than the hopeless feeling of mid 80's and much of the 90's into the early 00's.