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Goes both ways…. Just pointing out the positive with same stats.

Besides those… ha. Well, there is the DH. That is different, right? That is my 1, 2, and 3 reason to play him more. The 4 is that our DH spot has not done well, right? The bar isn’t high to get him more at bats. He’s a similar hitter to the last few years. Yep. Sure. He strikes out too much. Sure. Good. He also has had some bright spots this year with HRs and BB. He’s been jerked around daily on top of it. Play Him all over the field. Bat in all these different spots.

OPS and OBP neutralize those stats somewhat. Hiura has a small sample size too, and that goes both ways. More regular opportunities would possibly bring up his low marks. He is hitting well in Nashville too.

Yeah, can’t have those .800 plus OPS guys around taking at bats away from real hitters or the third catcher.

Well, that’s assuming a lot. I’d put Renfroe at 3 almost daily now. I don’t think Yelich is our best lead off hitter against lefties either. Brosseau would be intriguing.

Adames has hit in the clutch well this year. With people on base, with two outs, I’ll give him that.

Another. You explain it to me with stats this year, please.

I really am not a Hiura fan. I just think he could help us this year. Here it is, he does not need to play a position this year. DH. He also has hit well this year. He was hitting well when he was sent down and has hit (I believe) overall for the year.

When people just say “old school” or “just antiquated” without a fairly good reason, red flags go up. An explanation would be helpful. Wouldnt everyone want higher OPS guys batting higher? Is OPS old school too? Isn’t that a pretty good overall stat to merit worth? I just read batting avg doesn’t matter in one post, and another said that a guy with a batting average lower than .200 should expect to get demoted. Well Adames is batting .217. Then I see “Best hitter” from someone else too. Adames puts ball in play a little better than Hiura, and Hiura has somewhat power stats than Adames, They aren’t that different this year. One hits second daily for a playoff team. The other is in Nashville. I just can’t see the logic.

Hiura should be a bit bitter, imo. How Adames is revered at #2 for what he does- hit for power and Ks at like 27% rate is similar to Hiura who has hit for power and Ks a lot. One isn’t that different than the other. One plays everyday batting 2nd. The other is in Nashville.

Why?

Old baseball thinking? Ok. Then with new age hip baseball stats, Rowdy and Renfroe have been hitting better this year in about every measurable stat, right? OPS is still very telling. I actually don’t see that much of a difference between Hiura and Adames. Actually, imo, I’d rather have Hiura hitting #2 this year, based on what he has actually done of late at the plate. I think it is worth it to finally give him some rope to perform somewhat regularly, not just a day here or there. And the DH spot has been a whole anyways. Drop Adames since he is like our 4th or 5th best hitter.

Against righties he has mashed, I’ll gladly take the Ks if he can get on base over 40% of the time with OPS over 1. And he was hitting well when they dropped him down to AAA. Since when has baseball been so down on the high K rate and high OPS? Isn’t this present day baseball? Is that what CC said to him when he left the team, “Man, that OPS needs to be a bit higher if you are going to K so much.” ?

And against righties, he’s hitting .303, OBP .418, and OPS 1.070 in 76 PA. Awful, just awful, against lefties, though….161/.277/.491

Started this one knowing another Hiura thread is out there, but tying this with Adames… First off, I was fairly surprised, not shocked, that Hiura was sent down several days ago. I figured he had some good games at the end of June and especially in July. In fact even now, his OPS is way higher than anyone’s in July (1.194) and .OBP too (.480) in limited appearances (24 PA). End of June wasn’t bad either. For a broader look, his yearly OBP (.354) and OPS (..805) should be considered extra good for him sure, but really almost anyone! How he was sent down had to be because of his almost 47% K rate. His pinch hitting status was awful because of it (4 AB, 4 Ks) too against high heat late relievers. Yet, I fail to understand how Hiura, with his limited defense, was sent to the minors while Adames hits in the #2 spot in the order about daily! Adames’ numbers are positive with spin when looking at HRs (20) and RBIs (54). His awful numbers overall are more concerning. His AVG. (215), and OBP (.289) are awful. Think about that. Is this #2 hitter stats? He needs to play, I know, as our SS. I am thankful that we have him. But does this scream #2 hitter? Put him at #7 or 8. Concluding, I feel Hiura could easily be on this team as a DH right now and part time 1B/2B. His overall numbers have actually been better than Adames, especially when talking about having a top of the order bat. Late June and July even help his case. If strikeouts and contact are your hang up, pinch hit him late innings with Brosseau. If his defense gets you down, play him DH or sub for him late. In a complex move, I’d like to see Hiura up for Caratini since Severino has no options remaining. However, I’d like Caratini back up in September as the backup when rosters expand to 28 players. Also, Severino cannot be on the postseason squad by rule of his suspension, yet he could be valuable to the team come 2023 with Narvaez likely gone via FA. Overall, I’m just not understanding the roster and lineup shuffle now. Adames needs to move way down in the order, and Hiura, after showing some signs of life (and while in Nashville), needs to be back up. His .OBP and power are being wasted so Adames can set the table (.289 OBP) for the heart of the order. And if Hiura isn’t your cup of tea, still get Adames out of there and move a hot bat (like Urias—- .July 286 AVG, .373 OBP, and .873 OPS ) up.

Every year we need young, cheaper players… every year to make this work. Trying to do a Soto/Ohtani trade is bad not just for blowing up the farm, it also means payroll is going to go way up to unsustainable amounts.

Well, with ticket sales down, you could expect the team not to add payroll this deadline… reasonable. Or you could expect them to add payroll because they are right in this thing AND a big ASK of taxpayers ( in some form) is coming in the next year. Much like the Packers additions to Lambeau Field (Atrium, HoF, Packer Pro Shop) with the Brown County referendum in 2000, it sure matters to be winning big on the field at the right time. The vote barely passed (53% to 47%) and much had to do with the team winning a Super Bowl and getting to the playoffs regularly (even though Packers barely missed in 1999) in the years prior. If the Brewers are in need of these community tax projects to help them compete, and they are, the time might be now to get a few really good pieces to get them to the World Series.

Hoping Small can go 4 giving up 2 or less…. bullpen should be fine with off day Thurs.

Tickets for the Brew City Battle are ridiculously high for a decent seat. I cant believe the demand is going to fill it at these prices.

Another reason to start all night games at 6:30

Big problem is still paying him. Adding another arby guy (to the 10 plus already for next year and further) is a bit of a logjam. The team needs cheap, young players coming thru the system to keep costs down and OF is where that will probably be in 2024/2025.

I can see why Ashby is doing it too… hurts his arm, it could be over too. Brewers probably have an insurance policy that way too to cover themselves.

Lots of big questions to answer about the future of this club….

From a month ago… interesting stuff about the future of baseball in Milwaukee, costs of improvements.

Does more harm than good… I like current rivalries, AL/NL set up. Just let be. Change is not always for the better.