Didn't page through the whole thread, but I'll give my .02 anyway. This is a huge blow for Janesville. Being a business owner in Janesville, I deal with UAW people all the time. But, I also think this may be scare tactics to get eligible people that make $100,000/year to retire. They tell them they are closing in a year and a half? Why? So they can get those people who don't want to transfer to retire. Then they will announce that they are saving the Janesville plant and will be making a couple of new vehicles right here. General Motors could then hire workers at the new entry level rate, $14-$15/hr, which translates to roughly 40 grand a year. It's funny, GM closes 4 plants, then they announce the new hybrid car will be made next year. During the announcement, they say there will be 18 new models of GM products, replacing some of the old ones but making a wider selection to choose from. BTW, the "Volt" car sounds like it could save the company. It's a plug in car. If charged up, you can go 40 miles on battery power, then the vehicle automatically changes to gasoline when the battery is done. So, if you have a local job, you only have to buy gas when you go out of town. Sounds like a winner to me. People need to realize that GM owns the Janesville Plant. To sell the land and plant, they have to make sure that they decontaminate the ground under the plant. You cannot sell contaminated property. That will cost them millions and millions.