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He also kept Hart and Hardy a season too long where Hart must have no value whatsoever and Hardy's value is much lower with only one season till free agency. Because he clearly should have predicted that in his crystal ball?

Toronto "quickly" rejected the Phils' counter-offer of Happ, Michael Taylor, Carlos Carrasco, and Jason Donald this morning. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4356851

Well, Bedard went back on the DL again today, so not sure if that makes Seattle more likely to sell with him out, or more likely to hold on to Washburn/Morrow to fill out the rotation.

Thanks a ton for the generosity, twobrewers!

Very good is a huge stretch 3.69 ERA last year, 2.62 ERA this year. He'd be a very welcome addition to our bullpen right now.

In all fairness, if JB12, Al, or Satan-incarnate JJHardy would have said "I'm usually right about this" -- they would have been tore into.... To use one of your lines: This is both inaccurate and unnecessary. If you wish to take further issue about moderation policies or actions, I'd ask you to take them to the Issues forum or PM rather than continuing to randomly interject into issues between other posters.

ATL had given up on Capellan, as he couldn't develop effective off-speed stuff. While the point about being cautious about trading for pitchers that the Braves are willing to give up, Capellan was still rated the #25 best prospect in all of MLB in 2005.

107 has been mentioned a few times tonight, but that was the pitch count Yo started the 8th with- he actually threw 118 tonight. Allowed to hit in the bottom of the 7th, then got one out before being pulled after throwing an extra 11 pitches. I just don't see the point in sending him out there to face two batters in the 8th when he was both batting and already nearing 110 pitches.

JDLR wasn't a top propsect, nor was Jackson, nor was Capellan At the time they were traded for, they were very good ones.

If any of those guys are dealt, they'll probably be dealt for Mench or Linebrink equivalents. Linebrink has actually had two very good seasons so far since leaving Milwaukee.

To be clear, my point is the same whether a moderator or anyone else posted it, and whether it was you or someone else that took such an issue with it. Again, you just posted a few days ago that you felt people weren't being allowed to express their opinions, and now you're trying to suppress someone from doing just that. I just don't know if that's an opinion, a fact, or just supernatural. He clearly stated that it was just his opinion and not based on anything more than that. If he'd have just posted 'Gamel will be the worst' without any reasoning at all, I'd agree with you. This is a prediction thread where people are TRYING to predict the future- if this was a thread where someone posted "Cameron is terrible, that's my opinion," it's a totally different scenario/situation.

It asks if anyone has a 6th sense about the success or failures of players? I missed that. I don't have that kind of ability to project players that way. It asks for simple opinion, and that's what was given. He clearly stated it was nothing more than that and just his gut feeling. Not sure why you have such a problem with that. Not three days ago you posted: "People are entitled to their own opinion or at least that's what I thought was the case."

The problem is you didn't use any logic whatsoever besides that you had a 6th sense at this stuff...how does that make sense? Because the lead post in this thread doesn't ask for any more than that?

Just to add my thoughts to the thread, now that the state of the Brewers' team is becoming clearer nearing the deadline: I agree with those that say including Parra in any deal to get a pitcher doesn't make much sense. The whole point of acquiring a guy like Halladay or Lee or whoever is to end the Mike Burns Experience in the rotation, and moving Parra doesn't accomplish that at all. And that's not to say that Manny is 'untouchable' or going to work out his issues for sure or anything, it's just that I don't see how we can conceivably trade away and of our ML-level pitching right now, considering how little of it we have. The Brewers are at a bit of a crossroads here- they're forced to choose between making a splash with a nice pitcher that we control for multiple years and try to make a push with a team that may have too many holes, standing pat or even selling and potentially watching the staff crash and Burn(s), or acquiring a second or third-tier guy and simply hoping that he's better enough than Burns to at least stay kind-of in it for the last 2 months. Again, the risk with the latter is that you're potentially throwing talent at a lost cause, unless the guy is controlled for a couple of years. I'm really starting to believe that there's just no point in going after a guy like Halladay at this point (and that's ignoring that Philly seems to be closing in on a deal for a cost that seems absurd for the Brewers to match or surpass at this point). If the Brewers could find a way to get a Bucholz or Morrow-type pitcher yet, I could get on board with that type of deal. Otherwise, standing pat and seeing what might be out there in return for our free-agents-to-be of value is probably the way to go at this point. Of course, if they win the next 5 straight or something, that probably changes things dramatically.

Linebrink is not and was not a significant trade. You're correct that it was not on the level of CC. But that team's major weakness was a catastrophic bullpen, and Melvin went out and got the best RP on the market that July to try and address the issue. That's basically my point- the last two seasons the team has performed poorly in the 2nd half, but in each season Melvin made acquisitions to help the team. If they slump after the deadline, it's not because he sat there twiddling his thumbs in July.

DM has presided over a couple of big meltdowns though... Agreed. But in both 07 and 08, he made significant moves in July to try and improve the team.

The Brewers benefited also from back to back historically epic meltdowns by the Mets. True, in making the playoffs. But they were certainly in contention after June/July contrary to his claim.

Why is no one mentioning the fact that Dougie-boy has built a team that, for the 3rd year in a row, has played terribly come June and July, taking themselves out of contention. They still made the playoffs last year, so they WERE in contention last year. And it wasn't a terribly June and July that caused them to fade, it was a terrible September. In 2007, it was a brutal July and August that caused them to tailspin.

Who is detracting? ? There were several people in the thread that spoke ill of the trade. and who is starting controversy in this thread? My point was simply that when the same people hate each and every move the Brewers make, it suggests the possibility that they're doing it just to stir up an argument or be contrary.

...or tells you how much value Lopez really had. Rotoworld's take on the trade: Not a thrilling return (for the D'Backs). http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=MLB&filter_teams=ARZ&id=4697 That's not accurate at all. A guy with bad plate discipline will not do well as a PH. Your post was: he may struggle like Brad Nelson to be anything but a PH My point is: Both Gillespie and Katin will likely struggle to be anything but a PH in MLB. Your opinion though is just different than almost any scout in baseball and also the folks here that do the Power 50. And again, things change. Katin seems to be turning a corner this season. Gillespie is struggling. I don't really think you need to attempt to publicly call out people, but at the same time not drop names For the record, your name never even entered my mind in that regard. People certainly have the right to their opinions, I take issue when there's intent to stir up controversy, as I made clear in my post.

Players on the DL can only be traded with special approval by MLB, so I don't think that ever happens.

Sorry if I wasn't clear...that was in regard to Katin not Gillespie. No that was my point- I think that description can apply to either one. There's been posts that have said folks were glad we didn't give up a top prospect. Yes, there have. Now point me to ONE that said we gave up a "bad prospect" as you claimed. THAT'S the issue I had with your post. Comparing Cole to Katin as a prospect is also a completely blatant exaggeration. It's not even close. Again, I agree- I just think that they're the exact opposite as you do. It's a matter of opinion, not fact. You can bring up Brad Nelson (major hand injury by the way that you don't mention) Cole Gillespie had major shoulder surgery that's destroyed his throwing arm and made him a huge liability in the field, by the way. I feel you'll disagree with anything I say here and LL.net so I've come to expect it. I assure you that isn't the case. I just think you're completely wrong here.

Woot for "right hamstring tightness".

2B was not a hole, McGehee and Counsell were doing just fine. If you ignore that they're both banged up right now. Otherwise, I agree with your basic premise- if they acquire pitching, I hope it's a longer-term solution. That said, that type of deal probably isn't available during the season.

It should be noted that the person filed a civil suit, and this isn't a criminal case. Considering that, this sure sounds like someone trying to get money to me.