Was that post made in jest so that the Cards would have a lousy lineup? Reed, that's the point of this thread. You are obviously a hard core traditionalist, at least when it comes to lineup construction. On the other hand, there's the new wave statistical model lineup construction that goes against some of your assumptions. Is one better than the other? Maybe, maybe not. But the point is that LaRussa is hitting is pitcher 8th, which is part of the new wave lineup construction, while he's keeping Pujols in the #3 spot, which is part of the traditional lineup model. Its rare that someone would mix and match these theories. That was the observation. You want your guy batting second to be able to bunt, and take pitches for steals, and be able to advance the runner, not somebody who can hit 40 homers. Do you? Why? (Because its always been done like that doesn't make it right.) 1) Bunting sucks in nearly all situations. Sorry, but you can't convince me otherwise. It is mathematically proven and even observed to cost you runs, even a successful bunt. Basing a lineup around this skill doesn't make sense. 2) Who says Albert Pujols can't take pitches? He's the best hitter in that lineup, and he'd be the one I trust most to take pitches if needed. (Arguing the value of a SB attempt is for another thread.) 3) Albert Pujols, the best hitter in the lineup, is the best at advancing the runner, because he's the best hitter. 4) If you hit 40 HR in the #3 spot, you'll hit 42 in the #2 spot with the extra plate appearances. Bringing this post full circle, moving your best hitter to #2 is complimented by moving you're #8 hitter to #9, to get him that possible extra baserunner while still getting him the extra AB's. And that's why its odd that LaRussa would do one but not the other.